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The human life is not meant for actions and enjoying fruits.

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  1. dattaswami8

    dattaswami8 Member

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    The human life is not meant for actions and enjoying fruits.

    Shankara concentrated very much on the concept of God, which is the sole aim of this human life. The human life is very rare by itself and to get a second human life is more and more rare. Other religions say that it is impossible. Most rareness and impossibility are one and the same and on this point, there is no need of fight between religions. The human life is not meant for actions and enjoying fruits. This is the main reason of postponing the enjoyment of good results or punishments to other upper worlds (Bhoga lokas) after this human life. People are worried when the results of actions are not seen in this world at once. They think that this human life is meant for actions and enjoyment of fruits only. The fruits can be given at another place and after this precious human life. There is no hurry for that because that is not the main aim of human life in the eye of God as the case of the Government.


    The purpose of creating separate upper worlds and the purpose of postponement of results to these upper worlds after human life is only for this. The time is meant for a different purpose and this earth (Bhuloka) is meant to be the actual campus for doing work of God to achieve the grace of Lord (Karmaloka). The word ‘karma’ in philosophy does not mean ordinary worldly actions. It means only divine works, which are service to God. To differentiate from worldly work, this divine work is called as “karma yoga”. The word ‘yoga’ means achievement of God in human form, after perfect identification (Brahma Jnana) for doing service (karma) directly. Service to temples or churches is indirect, but, even that is greater than worldly work, because the concept of doing work to God exists even in that type of representative worship. Something is better than nothing and everything in the beginning is only something.
     
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    lforrest Well-Known Member Staff Member Admin

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    Ecclesiastes 4:12 I know that there is nothing better for people than to be happy and to do good while they live. 13 That each of them may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in all their toil—this is the gift of God.
     
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    The human life is neither for doing good deeds nor for doing bad deeds::
    Gita says that a realized soul who uses the analysis by intelligence leaves the concepts of both happiness obtained by doing good deeds and misery obtained by doing bad deeds (Buddhi Yukto Jahatiha Ubhe Sukruta Dushkrute). This means that you are trying for the temporary happiness of heaven and trying to avoid the temporary misery of hell here as well as in the upper world. This means that if you are analyzing the scriptures with sharp logic to realize the ultimate goal of the human life, you will not be interested in neither happiness nor in misery during the life as well as after death.


    The ultimate goal of life is not anything related to your self, because it is aimed at pleasing the creator since the original aim of this creation is only the pleasure of the Lord through entertainment. Therefore, the original aim of yourself, other selves and the entire universe is only to serve the Lord and please Him.



    Then, you will be blessed by the Lord with His eternal divine grace and your life is fulfilled. Therefore, the human life is neither for doing good deeds nor for doing bad deeds and it is also not for enjoying the good fruits or bad fruits. You are wasting the human life in doing good works and some times doing bad works due to the force of your ignorance. By this very little time is left over here to serve the Lord. If this little time is also used for enjoying good and bad fruits, no time is left for you to do the service to God and get His blessings. Hence, to save at least this little time for realization of spiritual knowledge and subsequent involvement in the divine service, at least the enjoyment of good and bad deeds is postponed to a latter time and at a latter place. The latter time is after death and latter places are hell and heaven. This is the reason for creation of hell and heaven separately to enjoy the results after death.
     
  4. Rollo Tamasi

    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    A very odd analogy of life, that's for sure.
    You're all about good works, which saves nobody.
    And if your only hope is a possible chance of a 2nd human life, then you really don't have any hope at all.
    By the way, you didn't explain, but what makes you think this was your first life?
    I thought you people had to start out as cockroaches or something and then work your way up.
     
  5. GodsGrace

    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure the O.P. is about reincarnation.
    Every teacher except Jesus concentrated on good works.
    So did Jesus, actually.
    But Jesus claimed to be God, and no other teacher ever did.
    Maybe @dattaswami8 would like to tell us more about his religion.
     
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    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    yeah, what's it like to be a cockroach?
     
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    Be nice!
     
  8. Rollo Tamasi

    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    I am.
    I have pet cockroaches.
    Don't you?
    I love to watch them multiply.
     
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    GodsGrace Well-Known Member

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    Why does God need us to achieve His grace?
     
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    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, how come?
     
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    Good question.
     
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    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    Come on hari krishnas, answer the question.
     
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    It's not krishna.
     
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    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    what is it?

    By the way, are we the only 2 people who talk on this forum?
     
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    Nomad Post Tenebras Lux

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    According to his profile he hasn't been around since June of last year. I don't think you're going to get an answer.
     
  16. GodsGrace

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    LOL
    Too bad.
    It's a religion I don't know about.

    P.S. thanks
     
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    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    maybe we will
    maybe he'll get an email on these posts, and he'll be back
     
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    Rollo Tamasi Well-Known Member

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    Hari Krishnas?
    You ain't never seen them in airports?
     
  19. GodsGrace

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    I said that I don't believe he's talking about Krishna. So I don't think I'm familiar with his religion.
    I could be wrong.
     
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    This is who he claimed to be.

     
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