The Ice Ball-The Melt-The beginning of life---The Here & NOW

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The Ice Ball-The Melt-The beginning of life---The Here & NOW

People ask about the biblical flood and wonder if it was/is possible.
I’m going to throughout some facts then we can debate the evidence found and where we go from here-

[1] to begin you must have enough water to cover the land as far as the eye can see. So where did the water come from--------- (?)
About 650 years ago earth was mostly covered in ice.

An ice shelf is a thick suspended platform of ice that forms where a glacier or ice sheet flows down to acoastline and onto the ocean surface. Ice shelves are only found in Antarctica, Greenland, Canada, and theRussian Arctic. The boundary between the floating ice shelf and the anchor ice (resting on bedrock) that feeds it is called the grounding line. The thickness of ice shelves can range from about 100 m (330 ft) to 1,000 m (3,300 ft).

The Snowball Earth hypothesis proposes that during one or more of Earth's icehouse climates, Earth's surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, sometime earlier than 650 Mya(million years ago). Proponents of the hypothesis argue that it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropicalpalaeolatitudes and other enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents of the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation andthe geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean[3][4]
Snowball Earth - Wikipedia

"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator Earth's now steamy Equator was covered with ice 716 million years ago, according to a new study. Strange fossil may be rare insect preserved in gemstone.

The finding appears to add solid evidence to the theory of an ancient "snowball Earth."
"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator

[2] A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming
Global warming began 18,000 years ago as the earth started warming its way out of the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a time when much of North America, Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath great sheets of glacial ice.
Global Warming:A Chilling Perspective

[3] The beginning of life on earth—

About 700 million years ago plants began to evolve absorbing the CO2 and exhaling O2.
The dirty ice could have been the only dark spots on Earth's surface to absorb the sun's rays. As a result, these regions may have been more likely to melt, creating water bodies where primitive life-forms, such as algae and fungi, could thrive.
"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator

This is the time period when “life” started living on the surface of the ice and among the melting water.

[2] Planet Earth was a very inhospitable place with no oxygen (O2) and only single-celled bacteria as inhabitants. According to a new study, the oxygen content in the air began to increase about 2.4 billion years ago, at the same time as the global glaciation and when all continents were gathered in a single huge landmass
Oxygen content increased when Earth was covered in ice

Approximately every 100,000 years Earth's climate warms up temporarily. These warm periods, called interglacial periods, appear to last approximately 15,000 to 20,000 years before regressing back to a cold ice age climate. At year 18,000 and counting our current interglacial vacation from the Ice Age is much nearer its end than its beginning.
Global Warming:A Chilling Perspective

More evidence of the melting ice—
Erosion generally forms very uneven surfaces. Now, look again at the pictures of the Grand Canyon in this paper and notice the crisp parallel lines between each layer. Many claim that there are evidences of erosion in lower layers, evidences of rivers, streams, rain, etc. However, these are generally isolated findings such as one might expect if they were formed rapidly, such as occurs with the rapid runoff of waters after a catastrophic flooding event.

After this formation, a massive amount of water was suddenly released in a huge runoff that covered several states, flowing from east to west. All of the sediment over the Grand Canyon region, above the Kaibab, was removed very rapidly by an extremely wide sheet of rapidly running water. Cedar Ridge was one massive waterfall. Notice that there is a distinct V-shaped formation at the tip where the eastern Grand Canyon begins - pointing toward Lake Powell. One can also recognize the deep punched-out appearance of the Canyon itself from the satellite photo as well as many of the other Canyon photos presented here. In other photos one can see the massive cliff-like faces that form a very wide valley where, in the middle, the Grand Canyon has been formed. The Grand Canyon is actually the baby canyon in comparison to the canyon in which is sits.

It seems that the sheet of rushing water dissipated before it could remove all of the elevated features, such as the various flat-topped buttes, in the GC region - which still remain as isolated islands sticking up above the relative flatness of the surrounding landscape. Also, as the water rapidly dissipated and the sheet of water narrowed, the "steps" of the Grand Staircase were formed.
The Geologic Column

The oxygen increase was created by living organisms breathing in CO2 and exhaling (O2); absorbing the carbon.

Ammonites are perhaps the most widely known fossil, possessing the typically ribbed spiral-form shell as pictured above. These creatures lived in the seas between 240 - 65 million years ago, when they became extinct along with the dinosaurs. The name 'ammonite' (usually lower-case) originates from the Greek Ram-horned god called Ammon. Ammonites belong to a group of predators known as cephalopods, which includes their living relatives the octopus, squid, cuttlefish and nautilus (see pictures below).
DISCOVERING FOSSILS | What is an ammonite?

The Here And Now---------------

"Potentially historic" flooding threatens Southern states
Scientists are warning that historic flooding could soon deluge parts of several Southern states along the lower Mississippi River, where floodwaters could persist for several weeks. The flood threat in the South will be discussed Thursday, when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration releases its 2019 spring outlook.

Experts plan a briefing on their flood forecast at the National Water Center in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Thursday's report is aimed at helping emergency managers and other safety officials to prepare for flooding.

Flooding in Southern states this spring will be "potentially historic," NOAA said in an advisory.
Mississippi River flooding 2019: "Potentially historic" flooding threatens South - CBS News

The Midwest floods are going to get much, much worse

An “unprecedented” flood season lies ahead this spring, according to NOAA.
By Umair Irfan Updated Mar 27, 2019, 2:21pm EDT
The Midwest floods are going to get much, much worse

Historic Midwest Flooding Likely to Cost at Least $1.3 Billion in Nebraska Alone; Missouri Towns Ordered to Evacuate
Historic Midwest Flooding Likely to Cost at Least $1.3 Billion in Nebraska Alone; Missouri Towns Ordered to Evacuate | The Weather Channel



What do we do now---?
 

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Genesis 6:9–9:17

Noah was a righteous man and walked with God. Seeing that the earth was corrupt and filled with violence, God instructed Noah to build an ark in which he, his sons, and their wives, together with male and female of all living creatures, would be saved from the waters. Noah entered the ark in his six hundredth year, and on the 17th day of the second month of that year "the fountains of the Great Deep burst apart and the floodgates of heaven broke open" and rain fell for forty days and forty nights until the highest mountains were covered 15 cubits, and all earth-based life perished except Noah and those with him in the ark.


I stand corrected. In the eyes of those who observed the event, it could very well have looked like a “global” flood.

I have been wrong before and this is just another oops, I’m wrong again

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You have not done enough research in your subject. The salient fact about Noah's flood is the absence of any physical evidence of it. Specially trained smart people have scoured the Earth for evidence of a major flood. They found two. Neither of them was Noah's flood. Nevertheless, tribes all around the world recorded a flood that year and their stories all sound very similar.

Consider China. The name means "middle kingdom". Middle of what? The ancient Chinese saw the tree of life in the north sky and assumed it was heaven. It seems there was an electric effect, well known to plasma physicists but ignored by mainstream disciplines. At times it resembled a tree, or a column with levels. That is where the Chinese got the idea of "seven heavens", and that was the origin of tree worship in northern places and pyramids in equatorial places.

The Earth had equatorial rings in those days. It still has them but they are no longer visible. Spokes in the rings made it look like a sea of reeds in the southern sky and they called it "sea of confusion". These observations were repeated in other cultures and passed down to us as myths. People don't take them seriously because they have never seen any such thing.

So the Chinese saw heaven in the north sky and the kingdom of confusion in the southern sky and called their land "middle kingdom". The tree of life had to be taken down, and that resulted in the equatorial rings falling to Earth, or appearing to fall. And that is why people before the flood lived almost a thousand years but after the flood the limit is 120 years.

If you want to examine the research on which this is based you can download the entire book free at www.saturniancosmology.org/ but be warned: it is 40 chapters, 700,000 words, of ancient myths and calendar calculations. Also available as an ebook in three volumes.
 

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The Ice Ball-The Melt-The beginning of life---The Here & NOW

People ask about the biblical flood and wonder if it was/is possible.
I’m going to throughout some facts then we can debate the evidence found and where we go from here-

[1] to begin you must have enough water to cover the land as far as the eye can see. So where did the water come from--------- (?)
About 650 years ago earth was mostly covered in ice.

An ice shelf is a thick suspended platform of ice that forms where a glacier or ice sheet flows down to acoastline and onto the ocean surface. Ice shelves are only found in Antarctica, Greenland, Canada, and theRussian Arctic. The boundary between the floating ice shelf and the anchor ice (resting on bedrock) that feeds it is called the grounding line. The thickness of ice shelves can range from about 100 m (330 ft) to 1,000 m (3,300 ft).

The Snowball Earth hypothesis proposes that during one or more of Earth's icehouse climates, Earth's surface became entirely or nearly entirely frozen at least once, sometime earlier than 650 Mya(million years ago). Proponents of the hypothesis argue that it best explains sedimentary deposits generally regarded as of glacial origin at tropicalpalaeolatitudes and other enigmatic features in the geological record. Opponents of the hypothesis contest the implications of the geological evidence for global glaciation andthe geophysical feasibility of an ice- or slush-covered ocean[3][4]
Snowball Earth - Wikipedia

"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator Earth's now steamy Equator was covered with ice 716 million years ago, according to a new study. Strange fossil may be rare insect preserved in gemstone.

The finding appears to add solid evidence to the theory of an ancient "snowball Earth."
"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator

[2] A Brief History of Ice Ages and Warming
Global warming began 18,000 years
ago as the earth started warming its way out of the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a time when much of North America, Europe, and Asia lay buried beneath great sheets of glacial ice.
Global Warming:A Chilling Perspective

[3] The beginning of life on earth—

About 700 million years ago plants began to evolve absorbing the CO2 and exhaling O2.
The dirty ice could have been the only dark spots on Earth's surface to absorb the sun's rays. As a result, these regions may have been more likely to melt, creating water bodies where primitive life-forms, such as algae and fungi, could thrive.
"Snowball Earth" Confirmed: Ice Covered Equator

This is the time period when “life” started living on the surface of the ice and among the melting water.

[2] Planet Earth was a very inhospitable place with no oxygen (O2) and only single-celled bacteria as inhabitants. According to a new study, the oxygen content in the air began to increase about 2.4 billion years ago, at the same time as the global glaciation and when all continents were gathered in a single huge landmass
Oxygen content increased when Earth was covered in ice

Approximately every 100,000 years Earth's climate warms up temporarily. These warm periods, called interglacial periods, appear to last approximately 15,000 to 20,000 years before regressing back to a cold ice age climate. At year 18,000 and counting our current interglacial vacation from the Ice Age is much nearer its end than its beginning.
Global Warming:A Chilling Perspective



"Potentially historic" flooding threatens Southern states
Scientists are warning that historic flooding could soon deluge parts of several Southern states along the lower Mississippi River, where floodwaters could persist for several weeks. The flood threat in the South will be discussed Thursday, when the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration releases its 2019 spring outlook.

Experts plan a briefing on their flood forecast at the National Water Center in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Thursday's report is aimed at helping emergency managers and other safety officials to prepare for flooding.

Flooding in Southern states this spring will be "potentially historic," NOAA said in an advisory.
Mississippi River flooding 2019: "Potentially historic" flooding threatens South - CBS News

The Midwest floods are going to get much, much worse

An “unprecedented” flood season lies ahead this spring, according to NOAA.
By Umair Irfan Updated Mar 27, 2019, 2:21pm EDT
The Midwest floods are going to get much, much worse

Historic Midwest Flooding Likely to Cost at Least $1.3 Billion in Nebraska Alone; Missouri Towns Ordered to Evacuate
Historic Midwest Flooding Likely to Cost at Least $1.3 Billion in Nebraska Alone; Missouri Towns Ordered to Evacuate | The Weather Channel



What do we do now---?

You raise two issues.
Was there a global flood and what to do about rising sea levels?

Well 99% of your questions about the Flood are answered by answersingenesis or creation.com

The remaining 1% is whether you have the faith to believe God.

As to increased flood risks. Don't live in an area liable to flood and if you do ensure your house has built in flood defences.
Look up flood defences there are plenty of firms that do them.
 

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You started this same thread on my website and gave your name and a picture.
Didn't think I would see that?

If you have a web site then why aren't you there instead of here-?
Now it's time to show me this web site where I showed my name and picture.
And I here and now give you permission to do so
 

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You raise two issues.
Was there a global flood and what to do about rising sea levels?
The Bible does not say, "global flood"
Well 99% of your questions about the Flood are answered by answersingenesis or creation.com
If you say so then it must be true
The remaining 1% is whether you have the faith to believe God.
God is with me day and night whether or not I believe in Him
 

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You have not done enough research in your subject. The salient fact about Noah's flood is the absence of any physical evidence of it. Specially trained smart people have scoured the Earth for evidence of a major flood. They found two. Neither of them was Noah's flood. Nevertheless, tribes all around the world recorded a flood that year and their stories all sound very similar.

It's kind of hard to prove something is not. But you did confirm what sounds like a world wide rain event. Good work.
 

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The Bible does not say, "global flood"
Neither does it say regional flood.
What it does say is that God promised never to flood the world gen 9:11,Never again will all life be destroyed by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth.
Yet there have been many regional floods.
Reading what the bible says, it is clear that the flood was global.
All live was destroyed, or is verse 11 above a lie.
Jesus referred to the flood in Liuke 17:28 that destroyed them all, did all humanity other than Noahs family die? Did Jesus lie by not telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

God's spirit in you will confirm biblical truths to you, like 6 day creation, global flood, 10 plagues, Jesus's resurection. As well as all the smaller miracles.
 

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Neither does it say regional flood.

According to biblical scripture,
God has changed His mind several times.
Preceded by a few verses stating; if you do this;.,.,.,,,./:\
I will do this.,.,.,,,./:\
But if, and only if, I will do that/_\
God's spirit in you will confirm biblical truths to you
As they have in the past and will continue
.,,., like 6 day creation, global flood, 10 plagues, Jesus's resurection. As well as all the smaller miracles.

My friend, there are no "small" miracles
 

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Global ~ irrelevant term

Gen 7
[6
] And Noah was six hundred years old when theflood of waters was upon the earth.

Earth is dry land.

Glory to God,
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