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I’ve heard Ecclesiastes 9:5 discussed in relation to what comes after going into a casket. How this verse is proof that the dead know nothing. How the dead do not have eyes to see anything. How the dead do not have ears to hear anything. Of course though in the future; the dead will hear a trumpet, calling them up out of the graves. This is not meant to be sarcastic but I am only sharing how some of that leads me to questions. Im not questioning what comes after the casket or in it. If this verse does indeed address those buried in a casket or cremated as the difference in: “the Living” and “the dead.”
I’ve thought a lot lately about this verse and how it could possibly teach so much that seems to be supported by life itself. The struggle to hold onto things. Desperately. Fearfully. Panicking. Grappling. Even waging war to have them or “it”.
“The Living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward.”
Only sharing another perspective. Consider how hard it is…Watching in the mirror as time definitely over takes you. The aging and deterioration is one thing man can’t overcome. The ache in the bones. It is going to come. That seems to be the topic of Ecclesiastes 9. That one event happens to us all. No way around it. Man may try to live forever or come up with medical breakthroughs but eventually man can only sustain to keep death at bay for a time, and a season. To me “the Living knows they will die” reminds me of where Paul spoke of knowing he would have to put off this tabernacle as Christ had shown him.”
2 Peter 1:14-16 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shown me. [15] Moreover I will endeavour that you may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance. [16] For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
“the Living know they will die”
“But the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward” reminds me also of all the verses on building a bigger barn …or gaining things out of envy and greed and desire yet: tonight death comes for you then whose will all those things be? Also the saying how you can’t take it all with you.
Im trying but failing to share a Life principle (I think) in “the living know they will die”. As Christ has prepared us for it (that event that comes upon all). To me this lines up with coming to terms with this is temporal; and where and what is the true reward.
“The Living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward.” Matthew 6:16-21 Moreover when you fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. [17] But you, when you fast, anoint your head, and wash your face; [18] That you appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and Your Father, which sees (the heart)in secret, shall reward you openly. [19] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: [20] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: [21] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Isaiah 26:13-14 O Lord our God, other lords beside you have had dominion over us: but by you only will we make mention of Your name. [14] They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased(Paul spoke of his decease), they shall not rise: therefore You visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
“The Living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward.”
I’ve thought a lot lately about this verse and how it could possibly teach so much that seems to be supported by life itself. The struggle to hold onto things. Desperately. Fearfully. Panicking. Grappling. Even waging war to have them or “it”.
“The Living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward.”
Only sharing another perspective. Consider how hard it is…Watching in the mirror as time definitely over takes you. The aging and deterioration is one thing man can’t overcome. The ache in the bones. It is going to come. That seems to be the topic of Ecclesiastes 9. That one event happens to us all. No way around it. Man may try to live forever or come up with medical breakthroughs but eventually man can only sustain to keep death at bay for a time, and a season. To me “the Living knows they will die” reminds me of where Paul spoke of knowing he would have to put off this tabernacle as Christ had shown him.”
2 Peter 1:14-16 Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shown me. [15] Moreover I will endeavour that you may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance. [16] For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
“the Living know they will die”
“But the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward” reminds me also of all the verses on building a bigger barn …or gaining things out of envy and greed and desire yet: tonight death comes for you then whose will all those things be? Also the saying how you can’t take it all with you.
Im trying but failing to share a Life principle (I think) in “the living know they will die”. As Christ has prepared us for it (that event that comes upon all). To me this lines up with coming to terms with this is temporal; and where and what is the true reward.
“The Living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward.” Matthew 6:16-21 Moreover when you fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. [17] But you, when you fast, anoint your head, and wash your face; [18] That you appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and Your Father, which sees (the heart)in secret, shall reward you openly. [19] Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: [20] But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: [21] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
Isaiah 26:13-14 O Lord our God, other lords beside you have had dominion over us: but by you only will we make mention of Your name. [14] They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased(Paul spoke of his decease), they shall not rise: therefore You visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.
“The Living know they will die; but the dead do not know anything nor do they have any more reward.”
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