The Mark of the Beast (what it really is explained)

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The mark of the beast, is not a literal physical mark.
Just as the seal of God (Revelation 7:3) is not a physical mark on the people of God.

That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in
the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner, being also
a spiritual mark.

You cannot receive the seal of God without your willingness to serve the Lord and keep His commandments.
Nor can you receive this mark of the beast without willingness to do its commandments and taking an active role
in fighting against God and His saints. A mark that must be spiritually discerned.
(read the Holy Bible and keep God's commandments
and precepts and you will gain this discernment by knowing right from wrong)

There is much fear surrounding this doctrine where there needs not be.
Nobody can unknowingly receive this mark. Those who receive this mark, are made partakers
of the benefits of the beast's spiritual dominion. But by becoming willing servants unto Satan
and his spiritual dominion, have sadly, guaranteed their place in the lake of fire.
 

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Actually that is only half true. All of Adam have the mark, because of Adam. The mark is both genetic, meaning it was passed on to them. And it is the curse of labor itself. Humans do not "get" the mark from their own sin. They have the mark in Adam.

It is like when you brand cattle. It signifies who they belong to.

Adam's mark belongs on us, because all in Adam have been cursed to the labor of this earth. We are not supposed to walk around showing this curse. Only sweat coming out of the forehead is an indication.

What Satan rather easily does is to get humans to be proud of that mark. It is by humanity's own pride in their own self worth that this mark will be proudly presented, as cattle branded for the devil. Pride leads to destruction. This pride leads straight to the lake of fire.
 

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The mark of the beast, is not a literal physical mark.
Just as the seal of God (Revelation 7:3) is not a physical mark on the people of God.

That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in
the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner, being also
a spiritual mark.

You cannot receive the seal of God without your willingness to serve the Lord and keep His commandments.
Nor can you receive this mark of the beast without willingness to do its commandments and taking an active role
in fighting against God and His saints. A mark that must be spiritually discerned.
(read the Holy Bible and keep God's commandments
and precepts and you will gain this discernment by knowing right from wrong)

There is much fear surrounding this doctrine where there needs not be.
Nobody can unknowingly receive this mark. Those who receive this mark, are made partakers
of the benefits of the beast's spiritual dominion. But by becoming willing servants unto Satan
and his spiritual dominion, have sadly, guaranteed their place in the lake of fire.
Here's the problem with that. The Scriptures say it is a physical mark. Specifically on the hand or forehead. So no, it is not a spiritual mark, it is physical because the scripture says that it is.
 

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We must remember the book of Revelation is full of symbolism. Was there or is there going to be a literal great mountain burning with fire thrown in the sea (Rev 8:8)? No of course not. It is figurative.
 

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I believe it is both a Physical Mark and a Spiritual Mark.

I agree with this...
Those who receive this mark, are made partakers of the benefits of the beast's spiritual dominion. But by becoming willing servants unto Satan and his spiritual dominion, have sadly, guaranteed their place in the lake of fire.
 
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We must remember the book of Revelation is full of symbolism. Was there or is there going to be a literal great mountain burning with fire thrown in the sea (Rev 8:8)? No of course not. It is figurative.
We must remember that John a 1st century human was looking at life going on today. He had to use symbolism to explain to 1st century Christian. To call today symbolism to us is sorta being blind eyed. What is happening now is the literal acts John was trying to explain to those in his time.

Revelation is the literal things going on today. What did John see today that we refuse to accept?
 

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Nobody can unknowingly receive this mark.
Agreed, there won't be any ambiguity. Everyone will be give the opportunity to worship the image of the beast. Those who do, are marked and released. Those who don't are executed. Those who do share Satan's fate.

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We must remember the book of Revelation is full of symbolism. Was there or is there going to be a literal great mountain burning with fire thrown in the sea (Rev 8:8)? No of course not. It is figurative.
Why wouldn't there be?

Why "of course not"?
 
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Actually that is only half true. All of Adam have the mark, because of Adam. The mark is both genetic, meaning it was passed on to them. And it is the curse of labor itself. Humans do not "get" the mark from their own sin. They have the mark in Adam.

It is like when you brand cattle. It signifies who they belong to.

Adam's mark belongs on us, because all in Adam have been cursed to the labor of this earth. We are not supposed to walk around showing this curse. Only sweat coming out of the forehead is an indication.

What Satan rather easily does is to get humans to be proud of that mark. It is by humanity's own pride in their own self worth that this mark will be proudly presented, as cattle branded for the devil. Pride leads to destruction. This pride leads straight to the lake of fire.

I don't think it has anything to do with genetics. We all are sinners because Adam sinned but it seems to me the way the scriptures speak of the Mark it's a choice. Granted I don't believe that when people make the choice they will know that they will be choosing the Mark of the beast. The scriptures tell us that when Armageddon happens people will be going about their everyday business then all of a sudden total destruction of unrighteous mankind. So although I believe people will choose to accept the mark, I don't think people will actually believe they have actually done that. Just as the people didn't believe Noah the majority of mankind will not believe they are in the situation that God's servants say mankind is in.
 
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Yes and it is also obvious to tell what is literal and what is not. The mark is literal.

I disagree, the Mark isn't literal. People will not even be aware they have the Mark. You have to remember that the scriptures are speaking to God's servants as to what's going on. The world of unbelievers won't be aware as to what's going on and the true Christians who tell the world what's going on, the people of the world of unbelievers won't believe and will laugh at them and ridicule the true servants of God. Armageddon will happen just as Jesus said it will happen, the world of unbelievers won't even know we're in the time of Jesus Christ second prescence until that destruction happens. Just as in the days of Noah.
 

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Charles Ellicott is the greatest theologian I have ever read and he seems to believe the mark is spiritual as well. Here is some commentary from Ellicott on Revelation 13:16:

"It is utterly unnecessary to take this brand of evil literally, any more than we took the seal of Christ literally. That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner. It surely means the acquiescence in character and action to the principles of this tyrannical world-power: the right hand is the symbol of toil and social intercourse; the forehead is the symbol of character, as time is ever writing its awful tale upon men’s brows."
 
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I disagree, the Mark isn't literal. People will not even be aware they have the Mark. You have to remember that the scriptures are speaking to God's servants as to what's going on. The world of unbelievers won't be aware as to what's going on and the true Christians who tell the world what's going on, the people of the world of unbelievers won't believe and will laugh at them and ridicule the true servants of God. Armageddon will happen just as Jesus said it will happen, the world of unbelievers won't even know we're in the time of Jesus Christ second prescence until that destruction happens. Just as in the days of Noah.
Sorry, but there will be no believers or saints, when humanity proudly displays this literal curse. What those who only spiritualize literal truth are failing to understand, is that at this time what is spiritual and what is physical is all the same reality. There will no longer be a separation between physical and spiritual.

Satan himself in his limited egotistical glory is in charge literally. Some smart humans perhaps even some posting today, will remember this thread, and choose to give in to Satan proudly, or have their head chopped off so they can be saved and keep their names in the Lamb's book of life.
 

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The mark of the beast, is not a literal physical mark.
That is completely false, since the Bible says it is a physical mark. That cannot be allegorized or spiritualized away.

REVELATION 13
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark* in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark*, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
is Six hundred threescore and six.

REVELATION 14
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark* in his forehead, or in his hand,
10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark* of his name.

Strong's Concordance
*charagma: a stamp, impress

Original Word: χάραγμα, ατος, τό
Part of Speech: Noun, Neuter
Transliteration: charagma
Phonetic Spelling: (khar'-ag-mah)
Definition: a stamp, impress
Usage: sculpture; engraving, a stamp, sign.

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 5480: χάραγμα (charagma)

χάραγμα, χαράγματος, τό (χαράσσω to engrave);

a. a stamp, an imprinted mark: of the mark stamped on the forehead or the right hand as the badge of the followers of Antichrist, Revelation 13:16; Revelation 14:9, 11; Revelation 15:2 Rec.; (πυρός, the mark branded upon horses, Anacreon () 26 (55), 2).

b. thing carved, sculpture, graven work: of idolatrous images, Acts 17:29. (In various other senses in Greek writings from Sophocles down.)

When people start controverting what is plainly stated in Scripture, then there is no end to false doctrines. And we have a host of them on Christian forums.
 

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I disagree, the Mark isn't literal. People will not even be aware they have the Mark. You have to remember that the scriptures are speaking to God's servants as to what's going on. The world of unbelievers won't be aware as to what's going on and the true Christians who tell the world what's going on, the people of the world of unbelievers won't believe and will laugh at them and ridicule the true servants of God. Armageddon will happen just as Jesus said it will happen, the world of unbelievers won't even know we're in the time of Jesus Christ second prescence until that destruction happens. Just as in the days of Noah.
You get that nowhere from the passage.
 

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Charles Ellicott is the greatest theologian I have ever read and he seems to believe the mark is spiritual as well. Here is some commentary from Ellicott on Revelation 13:16:

"It is utterly unnecessary to take this brand of evil literally, any more than we took the seal of Christ literally. That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner. It surely means the acquiescence in character and action to the principles of this tyrannical world-power: the right hand is the symbol of toil and social intercourse; the forehead is the symbol of character, as time is ever writing its awful tale upon men’s brows."
hogwash
 
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Sorry, but there will be no believers or saints, when humanity proudly displays this literal curse. What those who only spiritualize literal truth are failing to understand, is that at this time what is spiritual and what is physical is all the same reality. There will no longer be a separation between physical and spiritual.

Satan himself in his limited egotistical glory is in charge literally. Some smart humans perhaps even some posting today, will remember this thread, and choose to give in to Satan proudly, or have their head chopped off so they can be saved and keep their names in the Lamb's book of life.

Jesus said that the last days would be like the days of Noah, so you're wrong, there will be believers on earth at the time of the destruction of the unrighteous, but the righteous will be kept safe. Just as there were righteous people on earth during the destruction of Noah's day there will be righteous people on earth during Armageddon.
 

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The mark of the beast, is not a literal physical mark.
Just as the seal of God (Revelation 7:3) is not a physical mark on the people of God.

That seal we understood as spiritual, in the faith and in
the character; this evil brand we must interpret in like manner, being also
a spiritual mark.

You cannot receive the seal of God without your willingness to serve the Lord and keep His commandments.
Nor can you receive this mark of the beast without willingness to do its commandments and taking an active role
in fighting against God and His saints. A mark that must be spiritually discerned.
(read the Holy Bible and keep God's commandments
and precepts and you will gain this discernment by knowing right from wrong)

There is much fear surrounding this doctrine where there needs not be.
Nobody can unknowingly receive this mark. Those who receive this mark, are made partakers
of the benefits of the beast's spiritual dominion. But by becoming willing servants unto Satan
and his spiritual dominion, have sadly, guaranteed their place in the lake of fire.
What if Nero was actually the Antichrist?

I'm not a big end times speculator, but that theory actually makes a lot of sense...
 
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You get that nowhere from the passage.

I go by everything that is said about the last days in scripture, not just what is said about the Mark of the beast. It's a shame other people don't. Jesus told us in the scriptures that the last days would be like the days of Noah. Did those people back in his time believe what he said or did they laugh and ridicule him for what he believed and warned the people about what was coming. It's the same today. We are in the last days, do people truly believe that, not really. Right now at this present time people already have accepted the Mark and don't have a clue what it is, and if someone were to tell you what it is, you probably wouldn't believe it.