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Jacob28

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Matt. 25 has Jesus stating the following:

Vs. 41, "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels."
Vs. 45, "Inasmuch as you did it not unto the least of these, you did it not to me."

According to Jesus in vss. 35-36, this happens to everyone who:

1.) Does not give food and water to hungry and thirsty people.
2.) Does not house strangers.
3.) Does not give clothes to naked people.
4.) Does not go see sick people.
5.) Does not go see people in prison.

This describes homeless criminals, druggies, the mentally ill, the resourceless unemployed, screaming mobs of desperate and disenfranchised rioters, the demon possessed, murderers, felons, people dying in hospitals, hoards of homeless orphans in Africa, thieves who steal food, babies being aborted, Liberals in poverty after rejecting God.

Jesus said nothing here about asking Him into your heart, or about falling on your knees.
 
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The compassion that it takes to feed Jesus when He is hungry, etc., can only enter into a person's heart when they receive Jesus as their Saviour and Lord (see John 1:12, Revelation 3:20).

Salvation is the regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost on the inside of a man (see Titus 3:5).

A person who feeds Jesus when He is hungry, if they have not been born again, do so out of wrong motives; and because of this they will not enter into the kingdom although they have done many good works in His name (see Matthew 7:21-23). The one time that they did not feed Jesus when He is hungry will be to their condemnation.

While the one who has received Christ; and along with Him the compassion that it takes to feed Jesus when He is hungry, etc., will find that when they failed to feed Him, that sin of omission is underneath the blood; and that God counts the compassion itself as being the reality of feeding Jesus when He is hungry.

The thief on the cross never had the opportunity to do any good works for God. Is he therefore to be relegated to the left hand side of God when He judges the nations? No; for he was justified by his faith in Jesus Christ (alone); so that in believing in Jesus, he was justified apart from works (see Romans 4:5-6) through his simple faith in Jesus and what He was doing at that moment for him on the Cross.
 
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Matt. 25 has Jesus stating the following:

Vs. 41, "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels."
Vs. 45, "Inasmuch as you did it not unto the least of these, you did it not to me."

According to Jesus in vss. 35-36, this happens to everyone who:

1.) Does not give food and water to hungry and thirsty people.
2.) Does not house strangers.
3.) Does not give clothes to naked people.
4.) Does not go see sick people.
5.) Does not go see people in prison.

This describes homeless criminals, druggies, the mentally ill, the resourceless unemployed, screaming mobs of desperate and disenfranchised rioters, the demon possessed, murderers, felons, people dying in hospitals, hoards of homeless orphans in Africa, thieves who steal food, babies being aborted, Liberals in poverty after rejecting God.

Jesus said nothing here about asking Him into your heart, or about falling on your knees.



One could do all of the things that you listed and still never Believe the Gospel, and consequently find themselves to be Lost....
 

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Matt. 25 has Jesus stating the following:

Vs. 41, "Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels."
Vs. 45, "Inasmuch as you did it not unto the least of these, you did it not to me."

According to Jesus in vss. 35-36, this happens to everyone who:

1.) Does not give food and water to hungry and thirsty people.
2.) Does not house strangers.
3.) Does not give clothes to naked people.
4.) Does not go see sick people.
5.) Does not go see people in prison.

This describes homeless criminals, druggies, the mentally ill, the resourceless unemployed, screaming mobs of desperate and disenfranchised rioters, the demon possessed, murderers, felons, people dying in hospitals, hoards of homeless orphans in Africa, thieves who steal food, babies being aborted, Liberals in poverty after rejecting God.

Jesus said nothing here about asking Him into your heart, or about falling on your knees.

You're onto to something here. But you cannot reject the rest of the scriptures. The scripture you posted applies to people that have accepted Jesus as their savior, the rest are already lost.

So basically once you've done all the things to be saved you must also do Matthew 25. And that's what it means to follow Jesus the Christ.

Basically we get baptized and receive the Holy Spirit. And God guides us with the Holy Spirit to do all these things, under direction of the Clergy of our church.
 

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These are descriptions of God's ideallized will for Believers. What actually talkes place in reality is the topic of this thread.

For instance, none of the features and actions of the Disciples living with Jesus, nor the features of the Early Church exist today. Need someone define the word "today" in order to keep this discussion on course?
 
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One could do all of the things that you listed and still never Believe the Gospel, and consequently find themselves to be Lost....
Yes, Salvation is indeed more than works, just as faith is more than believing a narrative about Jesus. Faith plus works is Biblical.
 
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Yes. Part of faith is to reinvent the wheel of The Gospel in every discussion about God. Today, visitors in churches either leave or become mindlessly compliant upon pews.
 

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You're onto to something here. But you cannot reject the rest of the scriptures. The scripture you posted applies to people that have accepted Jesus as their savior, the rest are already lost.

So basically once you've done all the things to be saved you must also do Matthew 25. And that's what it means to follow Jesus the Christ.

Basically we get baptized and receive the Holy Spirit. And God guides us with the Holy Spirit to do all these things, under direction of the Clergy of our church.
 

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All clergy do is talk, speculate, preach to motivate. They perform no deeds.
 

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All clergy do is talk, speculate, preach to motivate. They perform no deeds.
Some churches have ministries that perform deeds (such as a food bank) and the deed of the preacher is to preach in such a way as to encourage the congregation to give to such a project so that it can be implemented in the church.

Thus, the deeds that are performed by the congregation are an outreach of the church of which the pastor is a kind of head (while Jesus is truly the head of the church).
 

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Yes, Salvation is indeed more than works, just as faith is more than believing a narrative about Jesus. Faith plus works is Biblical.
Man is saved through faith apart from the merit of works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) yet authentic faith does not remain apart from the presence of works. (James 2:14-26) It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified based on Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet faith that justifies does not remain alone (unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine. (James 2:14-26) *Perfect Harmony*
 

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Man is saved through faith apart from the merit of works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) yet authentic faith does not remain apart from the presence of works. (James 2:14-26) It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified based on Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet faith that justifies does not remain alone (unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine. (James 2:14-26) *Perfect Harmony*
 

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So true. Faith without works is dead, and a dead person does not have Christ. That is why Jesus provides power for works in His people.

"Without Me you can do nothing." We must abide in the Vine.
 

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Some churches have ministries that perform deeds (such as a food bank) and the deed of the preacher is to preach in such a way as to encourage the congregation to give to such a project so that it can be implemented in the church.

Thus, the deeds that are performed by the congregation are an outreach of the church of which the pastor is a kind of head (while Jesus is truly the head of the church).
 

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No Pastor is saved by the works of his flock. Praise God.
 

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Man is saved through faith apart from the merit of works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) yet authentic faith does not remain apart from the presence of works. (James 2:14-26) It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified based on Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet faith that justifies does not remain alone (unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine. (James 2:14-26) *Perfect Harmony*
Bingo !
 
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Man is saved through faith apart from the merit of works (Romans 4:5-6; Ephesians 2:8,9) yet authentic faith does not remain apart from the presence of works. (James 2:14-26) It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified based on Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet faith that justifies does not remain alone (unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine. (James 2:14-26) *Perfect Harmony*


One thing we agree about.