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Snyder: 'One World Religion' Looms As Pope & Islam's Top Imam Sign Historic Covenant

Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

A historic interfaith covenant was signed in the Middle East on Monday, and the mainstream media in the United States has been almost entirely silent about it.

Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb is considered to be the most important imam in Sunni Islam, and he arrived at the signing ceremony in Abu Dhabi with Pope Francis “hand-in-hand in a symbol of interfaith brotherhood”. But this wasn’t just a ceremony for Catholics and Muslims. According to a British news source, the signing of this covenant was done “in front of a global audience of religious leaders from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and other faiths”...

The pope and the grand imam of al-Azhar have signed a historic declaration of fraternity, calling for peace between nations, religions and races, in front of a global audience of religious leaders from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and other faiths.

Pope Francis, the leader of the world’s Catholics, and Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, the head of Sunni Islam’s most prestigious seat of learning, arrived at the ceremony in Abu Dhabi hand-in-hand in a symbol of interfaith brotherhood.

In other words, there was a concerted effort to make sure that all of the religions of the world were represented at this gathering.

According to the official Vatican website, a tremendous amount of preparation went in to the drafting of this document, and it encourages believers from all religions “to shake hands, embrace one another, kiss one another, and even pray” with one another…

The document, signed by Pope Francis and the Grand Imam of al-Azhar, Ahmed el-Tayeb, was prepared “with much reflection and prayer”, the Pope said. The one great danger at this moment, he continued, is “destruction, war, hatred between us.” “If we believers are not able to shake hands, embrace one another, kiss one another, and even pray, our faith will be defeated”, he said. The Pope explained that the document “is born of faith in God who is the Father of all and the Father of peace; it condemns all destruction, all terrorism, from the first terrorism in history, that of Cain.”

There is a lot of language about peace in this document, but it goes way beyond just advocating for peace.

Over and over again, the word “God” is used to simultaneously identify Allah and the God of Christianity. Here is just one example… We, who believe in God and in the final meeting with Him and His judgment, on the basis of our religious and moral responsibility, and through this Document, call upon ourselves, upon the leaders of the world as well as the architects of international policy and world economy, to work strenuously to spread the culture of tolerance and of living together in peace; to intervene at the earliest opportunity to stop the shedding of innocent blood and bring an end to wars, conflicts, environmental decay and the moral and cultural decline that the world is presently experiencing.

On top of that, the document also boldly declares that “the diversity of religions” that we see in the world was “willed by God”…

Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept;

In essence, this is saying that it is the will of God that there are hundreds of different religions in the world and that they are all acceptable in His sight.

We know that the elite want a one world religion, but to see the most important clerics from both Catholicism and Islam make such a dramatic public push for it is absolutely stunning.

Snyder: 'One World Religion' Looms As Pope & Islam's Top Imam Sign Historic Covenant
 

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The "False Prophet", is the side-kick of the, Political anti-Christ Beast.

Keeping an eye on Influencial "Prophets" that are Against Christ, may be signs worth considering a possibility, of thee "False Prophet".

Glory to God,
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We know that the elite want a one world religion, but to see the most important clerics from both Catholicism and Islam make such a dramatic public push for it is absolutely stunning.
Totally insignificant in the light of what the Bible prophets tell us.

Revelation 13 plainly tells us that the 'beast' that is; the leader of the soon to be established One World Government, will demand worship of himself on pain of death.
The OWG will be formed by the survivors of the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster by fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis.
Revelation 17:1-6 & 14-18 says that this 'beast', the Anti-Christ will destroy the Roman Catholic Church.

Islam will be decimated and their holy places destroyed by the Lord in His Day of wrath, the Sixth seal. Ezekiel 30:1-5, +
 

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Since the antichrist is a political figure, it would seem that Obama was the forerunner to the antichrist. Pope Francis is either the forerunner of the false prophet or the false prophet himself.
 
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Snyder: 'One World Religion' Looms As Pope & Islam's Top Imam Sign Historic Covenant

Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,

A historic interfaith covenant was signed in the Middle East on Monday, and the mainstream media in the United States has been almost entirely silent about it.

Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb is considered to be the most important imam in Sunni Islam, and he arrived at the signing ceremony in Abu Dhabi with Pope Francis “hand-in-hand in a symbol of interfaith brotherhood”. But this wasn’t just a ceremony for Catholics and Muslims. According to a British news source, the signing of this covenant was done “in front of a global audience of religious leaders from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and other faiths”...

The pope and the grand imam of al-Azhar have signed a historic declaration of fraternity, calling for peace between nations, religions and races, in front of a global audience of religious leaders from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and other faiths.

Pope Francis, the leader of the world’s Catholics, and Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, the head of Sunni Islam’s most prestigious seat of learning, arrived at the ceremony in Abu Dhabi hand-in-hand in a symbol of interfaith brotherhood.

In other words, there was a concerted effort to make sure that all of the religions of the world were represented at this gathering.

According to the official Vatican website, a tremendous amount of preparation went in to the drafting of this document, and it encourages believers from all religions “to shake hands, embrace one another, kiss one another, and even pray” with one another…

The document, signed by Pope Francis and the Grand Imam of al-Azhar, Ahmed el-Tayeb, was prepared “with much reflection and prayer”, the Pope said. The one great danger at this moment, he continued, is “destruction, war, hatred between us.” “If we believers are not able to shake hands, embrace one another, kiss one another, and even pray, our faith will be defeated”, he said. The Pope explained that the document “is born of faith in God who is the Father of all and the Father of peace; it condemns all destruction, all terrorism, from the first terrorism in history, that of Cain.”

There is a lot of language about peace in this document, but it goes way beyond just advocating for peace.

Over and over again, the word “God” is used to simultaneously identify Allah and the God of Christianity. Here is just one example… We, who believe in God and in the final meeting with Him and His judgment, on the basis of our religious and moral responsibility, and through this Document, call upon ourselves, upon the leaders of the world as well as the architects of international policy and world economy, to work strenuously to spread the culture of tolerance and of living together in peace; to intervene at the earliest opportunity to stop the shedding of innocent blood and bring an end to wars, conflicts, environmental decay and the moral and cultural decline that the world is presently experiencing.

On top of that, the document also boldly declares that “the diversity of religions” that we see in the world was “willed by God”…

Freedom is a right of every person: each individual enjoys the freedom of belief, thought, expression and action. The pluralism and the diversity of religions, colour, sex, race and language are willed by God in His wisdom, through which He created human beings. This divine wisdom is the source from which the right to freedom of belief and the freedom to be different derives. Therefore, the fact that people are forced to adhere to a certain religion or culture must be rejected, as too the imposition of a cultural way of life that others do not accept;

In essence, this is saying that it is the will of God that there are hundreds of different religions in the world and that they are all acceptable in His sight.

We know that the elite want a one world religion, but to see the most important clerics from both Catholicism and Islam make such a dramatic public push for it is absolutely stunning.

Snyder: 'One World Religion' Looms As Pope & Islam's Top Imam Sign Historic Covenant
Virtually all of the Reformers believed this and included Islam along with the Papacy as the Antichrist.
 

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Snyder: 'One World Religion' Looms As Pope & Islam's Top Imam Sign Historic Covenant

Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb is considered to be the most important imam in Sunni Islam, and he arrived at the signing ceremony in Abu Dhabi with Pope Francis “hand-in-hand in a symbol of interfaith brotherhood”. But this wasn’t just a ceremony for Catholics and Muslims. According to a British news source, the signing of this covenant was done “in front of a global audience of religious leaders from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and other faiths”...

The pope and the grand imam of al-Azhar have signed a historic declaration of fraternity, calling for peace between nations, religions and races, in front of a global audience of religious leaders from Christianity, Islam, Judaism and other faiths.

I'm not sure this makes him the forerunner for the Antichrist, but I completely agree that this event is significant and shameful. If I was Catholic I would be strenuously objecting the actions of the pontiff right about now.
That Pope Francis sees Islam's 'god' and Christianity's God as one and the same reveals either a massive hole in his doctrinal understanding (which is worrying in and of itself) or a willingness to uphold that deception in the face of other goals (world unity) which does, in point of fact, fit in rather nicely with a globalist agenda.
There is no good way to look at what he has done, unfortunately. If he had gone to uphold Christianity's values...those being the willingness to not fight and get along with any, but doing so with the clear understanding of the uniquness of our God and Christ....that would have been one thing. But what the Pope has done, seemingly to pacify Muslim objections, is to smooth over these differences by saying that there is no great chasm between their understanding of 'god' and ours. Which is a complete falsehood. Instead of preaching the gospel, he had sold it out.
 
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Since the antichrist is a political figure, it would seem that Obama was the forerunner to the antichrist. Pope Francis is either the forerunner of the false prophet or the false prophet himself.
You're right. I was thinking more along the lines of John the Baptist as the forerunner of Christ, and Pope Francis (the false prophet) as the forerunner of the Antichrist. At the same time according to Revelation 13, the false prophet is a miracle worker doing Satanic miracles.
 
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Totally insignificant in the light of what the Bible prophets tell us.

Revelation 13 plainly tells us that the 'beast' that is; the leader of the soon to be established One World Government, will demand worship of himself on pain of death.
The OWG will be formed by the survivors of the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster by fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis.
Revelation 17:1-6 & 14-18 says that this 'beast', the Anti-Christ will destroy the Roman Catholic Church.

Islam will be decimated and their holy places destroyed by the Lord in His Day of wrath, the Sixth seal. Ezekiel 30:1-5, +

The Bible is quite clear there will never be a one world government.

China, Russia, Muslim countries, EU and the USA are clearly shown to be independent of each other.

The false prophet demands the worship of the AC or death, not the AC.

There is no mention that the Islamic holy places will be destroyed during the MK.
 

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You're right. I was thinking more along the lines of John the Baptist as the forerunner of Christ, and Pope Francis (the false prophet) as the forerunner of the Antichrist. At the same time according to Revelation 13, the false prophet is a miracle worker doing Satanic miracles.

I have said many times a Pope will be the false prophet. That office is the perfect candidate.
 

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The false prophet needs to call fire down from heaven to be the one.

I think he will too. I think that he's going to be the CAUSE of it. He will CAUSE the fire to fall from heaven in the full view of men. Like on the day that Lot left out from Sodom. So shall it be at the coming of the Son of Man.

I believe the time is now.

I believe that the time is now too pompadour.

Good to see you man.
 

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The Bible is quite clear there will never be a one world government.

China, Russia, Muslim countries, EU and the USA are clearly shown to be independent of each other.
Wrong:
Daniel 7:23 …..this kingdom will be different from those other kingdoms; it will devour the whole earth....
Revelation 13:7....the 'beast' is granted authority over every tribe, race, nation and language of the world.

The false prophet demands the worship of the AC or death, not the AC.
Same thing, either way you worship the beast; the Anti-Christ, or die.

There is no mention that the Islamic holy places will be destroyed during the MK.
Jeremiah 49:28-33 Arise, attack Kedar and destroy the desert peoples of the East. Your possessions will be taken. A cry of terror will go up – flee quickly away and hide in remote places. Hazor will become a desolate place forever, totally uninhabited. Ezekiel 30:1-5
This prophecy is in the context of the Babylonian attack, but awaits a full and final fulfilment in the end times.
Kedar and Hazor are now modern Saudi Arabia, where Mecca and Medina are. Also many other prophesies tell of the virtual depopulation of all the Middle East.

Why must I constantly prove you wrong with my Bible quotes? Your beliefs seem to bear no relation to what the Bible says.
 

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I'm not sure this makes him the forerunner for the Antichrist, but I completely agree that this event is significant and shameful. If I was Catholic I would be strenuously objecting the actions of the pontiff right about now.
That Pope Francis sees Islam's 'god' and Christianity's God as one and the same reveals either a massive hole in his doctrinal understanding (which is worrying in and of itself) or a willingness to uphold that deception in the face of other goals (world unity) which does, in point of fact, fit in rather nicely with a globalist agenda.
There is no good way to look at what he has done, unfortunately. If he had gone to uphold Christianity's values...those being the willingness to not fight and get along with any, but doing so with the clear understanding of the uniquness of our God and Christ....that would have been one thing. But what the Pope has done, seemingly to pacify Muslim objections, is to smooth over these differences by saying that there is no great chasm between their understanding of 'god' and ours. Which is a complete falsehood. Instead of preaching the gospel, he had sold it out.
John 14.6
 

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Wrong:
Daniel 7:23 …..this kingdom will be different from those other kingdoms; it will devour the whole earth....
Revelation 13:7....the 'beast' is granted authority over every tribe, race, nation and language of the world.


Same thing, either way you worship the beast; the Anti-Christ, or die.


Jeremiah 49:28-33 Arise, attack Kedar and destroy the desert peoples of the East. Your possessions will be taken. A cry of terror will go up – flee quickly away and hide in remote places. Hazor will become a desolate place forever, totally uninhabited. Ezekiel 30:1-5
This prophecy is in the context of the Babylonian attack, but awaits a full and final fulfilment in the end times.
Kedar and Hazor are now modern Saudi Arabia, where Mecca and Medina are. Also many other prophesies tell of the virtual depopulation of all the Middle East.

Why must I constantly prove you wrong with my Bible quotes? Your beliefs seem to bear no relation to what the Bible says.

Those are far from the only holy places of Islam. Including Jerusalem.
 

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John 14.6
Yeah...you'd think it would be a no-brainer, huh? The Pope, surely, would remember such a passage! And such an opportunity to preach to all the Muslim people! 'Course...he probably wouldn't have been asked back...but that's not the point. Paul would have taken the chance and run with it!!
 
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Yeah...you'd think it would be a no-brainer, huh? The Pope, surely, would remember such a passage! And such an opportunity to preach to all the Muslim people! 'Course...he probably wouldn't have been asked back...but that's not the point. Paul would have taken the chance and run with it!!
In the end it's all about Scripture...or the lack of it.
 

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Peace and safety
Blind lead the blinds
Harlot and her daughters
How can two walk together unless they agree

Isaiah 4:1 (KJV)

1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying,
We will eat our own bread,
and wear our own apparel:
only let us be called by thy name,
to take away our reproach.

Genesis 11:4 (KJV) Tower of Babel - mankind making a name for themselves
4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower,
whose top may reach unto heaven;
and let us make us a name,
lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.


Revelation 6:15-16 (KJV)
15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man,
hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne,
and from the wrath of the Lamb:

What or who could be the mountains to save them ? What is its name ?
Mark of the Beast ?
Great Babylon ?
…………………… ?

 
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Virtually all of the Reformers believed this and included Islam along with the Papacy as the Antichrist.
Soooo if the Reformers believed it then it must be true (accurate)?

They disagree with each other on A LOT of doctrinal issues when it comes to the Truth of Scripture. They all believe they were guided by the Holy Spirit when they came to that "Truth" or MULTIPLE TRUTHS. Soooo either they are confused or the Holy Spirit is confused.

The confused Reformers can't agree on the interpretation of Scripture (Truth of Scripture), do you believe they are right on this antichrist "truth"?

Curious Mary
 
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Soooo if the Reformers believed it then it must be true (accurate)?

They disagree with each other on A LOT of doctrinal issues when it comes to the Truth of Scripture. They all believe they were guided by the Holy Spirit when they came to that "Truth" or MULTIPLE TRUTHS. Soooo either they are confused or the Holy Spirit is confused.

The confused Reformers can't agree on the interpretation of Scripture (Truth of Scripture), do you believe they are right on this antichrist "truth"?

Curious Mary
Have you ever studied why they believed as they did? The Reformation only succeed because people knew they were right.