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The secret of eternal life

Discussion in 'Christian Theology Forum' started by bigape, Nov 10, 2008.

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  1. bigape

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    There is a secret, that most of the world knows nothing about.And this secret is, the only way of eternal life.The secret that I am referring to is, “the result” of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.-------------------------------------------------- The result of the Gospel, is that the only way to get saved and on your way to heaven, is by not “doing” anything, to get there.Notice what this passage says........
    Romans 4:4-5V.4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. V.5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
    Getting saved, has NOTHING to do with our “good works”. -------------------------------------------------- As a matter of fact, according to the Bible those who do good works to get themselves saved, are actually working their way to hell.
     
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    If anyone believes that God sent his begotten Son Jesus Christ whom came incarnated in the womb of Holy Mary and is our Saviour who died on the cross to pay for our sins and repents receives him and is saved.
     
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    If anyone believes that God sent his begotten Son Jesus Christ whom came incarnated in the womb of Holy Mary and is our Saviour who died on the cross to pay for our sins and repents receives him and is saved.
    Mary is not holy at all. She is a sinner. Sinners are not holy.
     
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    She must be Holy to have God in her womb, Blesses be Mother Mary Amen
     
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    She must be Holy to have God in her womb, Blesses be Mother Mary Amen
    Get this Catholicism junk out of here. Mary said she needed a Saviour, therefore she's not holy.
     
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    It not Catholicism it is Fact, and remember God and Jesus Christ loves her dearly so be very careful what you say to the blessed. For God is hearing you.
     
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    It not Catholicism it is Fact, and remember God and Jesus Christ loves her dearly so be very careful what you say to the blessed. For God is hearing you.
    Show me one scripture where it ever says that Mary is HOLY. Not aiming at the virgin birth scenario, but the verse saying Mary is HOLY.Oh wait, you can't. Point proven.
     
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    Didn't God's Holy Spirit come upon her which made her Holy and wasn't she filled withHolyness? Thats why she is called Holy Mary Mother of God.
     
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    Didn't God's Holy Spirit come upon her which made her Holy and wasn't she filled withHolyness? Thats why she is called Holy Mary Mother of God.
    Trash of Men. So I was right, you can't prove it.
     
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    Is that all you can say,no Answer well then it is point proven .
     
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    There is a secret, that most of the world knows nothing about.And this secret is, the only way of eternal life.The secret that I am referring to is, “the result” of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.-------------------------------------------------- The result of the Gospel, is that the only way to get saved and on your way to heaven, is by not “doing” anything, to get there.Notice what this passage says........Getting saved, has NOTHING to do with our “good works”. -------------------------------------------------- As a matter of fact, according to the Bible those who do good works to get themselves saved, are actually working their way to hell.
    A lot to do with Repentance.
     
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    Wosrhip of praying to Mary is Idol worship Mary was born as the rest of us was fully human she was blessed, as young virgin, became the vessel to whom the lord would be born.went on to live a normal Godly life she was not without sin No one is except Jesus Christ to claim Mary is anything but a normal human with sin , is to deny that Christ was born into flesh and subject to the things of flesh and he alone had no sin,To call Mary Holy and think otherwise is a Catholic belief and this site is a Scripture study site please keep you denominational beliefs to yourself and dicuss ot at your church.
     
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    Isn't Mary your Mother?Didn't God's Holy Spirit come upon her which made her Holy and wasn't she filled withHolyness? Thats why she is called Holy Mary Mother of God.
     
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    Hi univacLifting Mary up, is dangerous, because it is Jesus that must be lifted up.Mary indeed was a sinner, just like the rest of us, and she needed to get saved, just like the rest of us.-------------------------------------------------- If you(or anyone else), are trusting Mary(or anyone else), for salvation(or anything else), you are making a grave mistake.
     
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    Isn't Mary your Mother?Didn't God's Holy Spirit come upon her which made her Holy and wasn't she filled withHolyness? Thats why she is called Holy Mary Mother of God.
    God has no mother. In fact God existed before Mary was created.(bigape;63501)
    Hi univacLifting Mary up, is dangerous, because it is Jesus that must be lifted up.Mary indeed was a sinner, just like the rest of us, and she needed to get saved, just like the rest of us.-------------------------------------------------- If you(or anyone else), are trusting Mary(or anyone else), for salvation(or anything else), you are making a grave mistake.
    Amen! Usually once a person loves a denomination, and it's teaching. It would / will make God void in their lives.
     
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    John 19:25-27 "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he said to his mother: Woman, behold your son. After that, he said to the disciple: Behold your mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.So Jesus Had said Behold your mother as a disiple do you take her to your own?or Jordan is this twisting Scripture.Bigape I am lifting Mary up as my Mother as His disciple. God bless
     
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    John 19:25-27 "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he said to his mother: Woman, behold your son. After that, he said to the disciple: Behold your mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.So Jesus Had said Behold your mother as a disiple do you take her to your own?or Jordan is this twisting Scripture.Bigape I am lifting Mary up as my Mother as His disciple. God bless
    That will get you in trouble with God. Care to show scriptures that Mary existed with God at the same time? Can you prove Genesis 1:1 to show that Mary existed with God? I'm afraid not. Again another point proven.
     
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    John 19:25-27 "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he said to his mother: Woman, behold your son. After that, he said to the disciple: Behold your mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.So Jesus Had said Behold your mother as a disiple do you take her to your own?or Jordan is this twisting Scripture.Bigape I am lifting Mary up as my Mother as His disciple. God bless
    Do it on your own as I said its not Biblical we only worship/pray to Christ/Godyour reasoning is of men it dosent matter here its a catholic doctrine.
     
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    God has no mother. In fact God existed before Mary was created.Amen! Usually once a person loves a denomination, and it's teaching. It would / will make God void in their lives.
    Mary is your Mother jordan and christina if you are disciple of Jesus ChristJohn 19:25-27 "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he said to his mother: Woman, behold your son. After that, he said to the disciple: Behold your mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.Its not Catholic but the word of God.
     
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    God has no mother. In fact God existed before Mary was created.Amen! Usually once a person loves a denomination, and it's teaching. It would / will make God void in their lives.
    Mary is your Mother jordan and christina if you are disciple of Jesus ChristJohn 19:25-27 "Now there stood by the cross of Jesus, his mother and his mother's sister, Mary of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalen. When Jesus therefore had seen his mother and the disciple standing whom he loved, he said to his mother: Woman, behold your son. After that, he said to the disciple: Behold your mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own.Its not Catholic but the word of God.[​IMG]Romans 3:10 - As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:Romans 3:23 - For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;...Revelation 15:3 - And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. (Ref: John 1:29, John 1:34)Revelation 15:4 - Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.
     
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