The "temple of God"

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There's been plenty of men's false doctrine pushing by the reinvigorating teachers of the old Reformation doctrines of the 15th-16th centuries that failed, with the early Protestants thinking the pope was antichrist, and the Roman church as the beast kingdom of Rev.13. Thing is, what those early Protestants believed about the pope as antichrist didn't happen.

And one of their pet false doctrines is the vain idea that the 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" that the coming Antichrist is to sit in represents Christ's Church.

2 Thess 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV


Hippolytus of the 2nd century Church fathers understood that "temple of God" to mean a STONE TEMPLE in Jerusalem.

He was right, because per Apostle Paul in Ephesians 2, Christ's spiritual temple has Lord Jesus Christ as its Cornerstone, and His prophets and Apostles as its original foundation. Even Apostle Peter reveals that those in Christ also are part of it as 'lively stones' (1 Peter 2:5).

That means, for a false one to sit in the 'spiritual temple', they first would have to corrupt Lord Jesus Christ and His prophets and Apostles That is actually how idiotic their doctrine is with saying Paul's "temple of God" means Christ's Church.

No, it means a STONE TEMPLE in Jerusalem for the end, a temple of the Jewish type of history. A 3rd stone temple. Today's Jews already have the materials ready to build it, even with its cornerstone already cut.

A standing stone Jewish temple in Jerusalem is REQUIRED to fulfill Bible prophecy in the Book of Daniel for the 'end' of this world. There are many that confuse what the "abomination of desolation" actually means per Scripture so as to hide the fact that another Jewish stone temple is required for the end.

Lord Jesus in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 quoted from Daniel about the "abomination of desolation", marking that event for the very end during the "great tribulation" time. The Book of Daniel, specifically Daniel 11, defines its events about the coming Antichrist for the end stopping daily sacrifices in Jerusalem, and instead placing an idol abomination in the temple there in Jerusalem.

Now those pushing the old Reformer's failed ideas, et al, like to try and disguise what I just said that can be confirmed by study in Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11 about the "vile person" and the "abomination that maketh desolate" which Jesus quoted for the 'end' of this world. So per Daniel, here are the events to mark and remember that MUST happen to fulfill that "abomination of desolation" prophecy...

1. a 3rd Jewish temple must be built by the orthodox Jews in today's Jerusalem. (Today, even some Islamic clerics are agreeing that the Jews in Jerusalem have always had a stone temple, showing they support the actual return of a Jewish temple in Jerusalem. The Jewish Sanhedrin in Jerusalem formed up again over a decade ago.)

2. temple worship and animal sacrifices in Jerusalem by unbelieving Jews must be going on.

3. the appearance of the false-Messiah which the unbelieving Jews will setup as their Messiah in Jerusalem. He will make the "league" of Daniel 11:21-23 with "a small people" (a small group of orthodox Jews in Jerusalem). That "league" represents the establishing of the 'covenant' of Daniel 9:27. He will enter into power at Jerusalem using peace. That covenant, or league, is to be for 7 years. The first half will involve the rebuilding of the 3rd temple and start up of temple worship again with daily sacrifices. The orthodox Jews still believe they are under the old covenant today, and need a stone temple to properly worship, and still await Messiah's 1st coming.

4. the false-Messiah, after the first 1260 days of that 7 year period, will end... the daily sacrifices in Jerusalem, and instead place the "abomination that maketh desolate" (Daniel 11:31). That idol will be the "image of the beast" we are warned about in Revelation 13:14-15. Per Christ's Olivet discourse, that will begin the time of "great tribulation" for the end.

5. just as Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, did in Daniel's days with making a gold idol image of himself demanding that all bow to it and worship it or be killed, the final Antichrist-false-Messiah will do the same with that "image of the beast" idol he will setup.

If you are still living when those events happen, know that you are in the time of "great tribulation", and Lord Jesus' return will be just around the corner, so refuse... to bow to that "image of the beast" and refuse his mark, for it will only be for a short time to wait on Jesus to come.
 

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There's been plenty of men's false doctrine pushing by the reinvigorating teachers of the old Reformation doctrines of the 15th-16th centuries that failed, with the early Protestants thinking the pope was antichrist, and the Roman church as the beast kingdom of Rev.13. Thing is, what those early Protestants believed about the pope as antichrist didn't happen.

And one of their pet false doctrines is the vain idea that the 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" that the coming Antichrist is to sit in represents Christ's Church.

2 Thess 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV


Hippolytus of the 2nd century Church fathers understood that "temple of God" to mean a STONE TEMPLE in Jerusalem.

He was right, because per Apostle Paul in Ephesians 2, Christ's spiritual temple has Lord Jesus Christ as its Cornerstone, and His prophets and Apostles as its original foundation. Even Apostle Peter reveals that those in Christ also are part of it as 'lively stones' (1 Peter 2:5).

That means, for a false one to sit in the 'spiritual temple', they first would have to corrupt Lord Jesus Christ and His prophets and Apostles That is actually how idiotic their doctrine is with saying Paul's "temple of God" means Christ's Church.

No, it means a STONE TEMPLE in Jerusalem for the end, a temple of the Jewish type of history. A 3rd stone temple. Today's Jews already have the materials ready to build it, even with its cornerstone already cut.

A standing stone Jewish temple in Jerusalem is REQUIRED to fulfill Bible prophecy in the Book of Daniel for the 'end' of this world. There are many that confuse what the "abomination of desolation" actually means per Scripture so as to hide the fact that another Jewish stone temple is required for the end.

Lord Jesus in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 quoted from Daniel about the "abomination of desolation", marking that event for the very end during the "great tribulation" time. The Book of Daniel, specifically Daniel 11, defines its events about the coming Antichrist for the end stopping daily sacrifices in Jerusalem, and instead placing an idol abomination in the temple there in Jerusalem.

Now those pushing the old Reformer's failed ideas, et al, like to try and disguise what I just said that can be confirmed by study in Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11 about the "vile person" and the "abomination that maketh desolate" which Jesus quoted for the 'end' of this world. So per Daniel, here are the events to mark and remember that MUST happen to fulfill that "abomination of desolation" prophecy...

1. a 3rd Jewish temple must be built by the orthodox Jews in today's Jerusalem. (Today, even some Islamic clerics are agreeing that the Jews in Jerusalem have always had a stone temple, showing they support the actual return of a Jewish temple in Jerusalem. The Jewish Sanhedrin in Jerusalem formed up again over a decade ago.)

2. temple worship and animal sacrifices in Jerusalem by unbelieving Jews must be going on.

3. the appearance of the false-Messiah which the unbelieving Jews will setup as their Messiah in Jerusalem. He will make the "league" of Daniel 11:21-23 with "a small people" (a small group of orthodox Jews in Jerusalem). That "league" represents the establishing of the 'covenant' of Daniel 9:27. He will enter into power at Jerusalem using peace. That covenant, or league, is to be for 7 years. The first half will involve the rebuilding of the 3rd temple and start up of temple worship again with daily sacrifices. The orthodox Jews still believe they are under the old covenant today, and need a stone temple to properly worship, and still await Messiah's 1st coming.

4. the false-Messiah, after the first 1260 days of that 7 year period, will end... the daily sacrifices in Jerusalem, and instead place the "abomination that maketh desolate" (Daniel 11:31). That idol will be the "image of the beast" we are warned about in Revelation 13:14-15. Per Christ's Olivet discourse, that will begin the time of "great tribulation" for the end.

5. just as Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, did in Daniel's days with making a gold idol image of himself demanding that all bow to it and worship it or be killed, the final Antichrist-false-Messiah will do the same with that "image of the beast" idol he will setup.

If you are still living when those events happen, know that you are in the time of "great tribulation", and Lord Jesus' return will be just around the corner, so refuse... to bow to that "image of the beast" and refuse his mark, for it will only be for a short time to wait on Jesus to come.

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@Davy scripture couldn't be more clear if even someone shouted it in your ear.

Do you not know?

Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? If someone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him. For God’s temple is holy, which is what you are.

For it is said, “The two will become one flesh. ”But the one united with the Lord is one spirit with him. Flee sexual immorality! “Every sin a person commits is outside of the body” —but the immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.
 
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There's been plenty of men's false doctrine pushing by the reinvigorating teachers of the old Reformation doctrines of the 15th-16th centuries that failed, with the early Protestants thinking the pope was antichrist, and the Roman church as the beast kingdom of Rev.13. Thing is, what those early Protestants believed about the pope as antichrist didn't happen.

And one of their pet false doctrines is the vain idea that the 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" that the coming Antichrist is to sit in represents Christ's Church.

2 Thess 2:3-4
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;
so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV


Hippolytus of the 2nd century Church fathers understood that "temple of God" to mean a STONE TEMPLE in Jerusalem.

He was right, because per Apostle Paul in Ephesians 2, Christ's spiritual temple has Lord Jesus Christ as its Cornerstone, and His prophets and Apostles as its original foundation. Even Apostle Peter reveals that those in Christ also are part of it as 'lively stones' (1 Peter 2:5).

That means, for a false one to sit in the 'spiritual temple', they first would have to corrupt Lord Jesus Christ and His prophets and Apostles That is actually how idiotic their doctrine is with saying Paul's "temple of God" means Christ's Church.

No, it means a STONE TEMPLE in Jerusalem for the end, a temple of the Jewish type of history. A 3rd stone temple. Today's Jews already have the materials ready to build it, even with its cornerstone already cut.

A standing stone Jewish temple in Jerusalem is REQUIRED to fulfill Bible prophecy in the Book of Daniel for the 'end' of this world. There are many that confuse what the "abomination of desolation" actually means per Scripture so as to hide the fact that another Jewish stone temple is required for the end.

Lord Jesus in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 quoted from Daniel about the "abomination of desolation", marking that event for the very end during the "great tribulation" time. The Book of Daniel, specifically Daniel 11, defines its events about the coming Antichrist for the end stopping daily sacrifices in Jerusalem, and instead placing an idol abomination in the temple there in Jerusalem.

Now those pushing the old Reformer's failed ideas, et al, like to try and disguise what I just said that can be confirmed by study in Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11 about the "vile person" and the "abomination that maketh desolate" which Jesus quoted for the 'end' of this world. So per Daniel, here are the events to mark and remember that MUST happen to fulfill that "abomination of desolation" prophecy...

1. a 3rd Jewish temple must be built by the orthodox Jews in today's Jerusalem. (Today, even some Islamic clerics are agreeing that the Jews in Jerusalem have always had a stone temple, showing they support the actual return of a Jewish temple in Jerusalem. The Jewish Sanhedrin in Jerusalem formed up again over a decade ago.)

2. temple worship and animal sacrifices in Jerusalem by unbelieving Jews must be going on.

3. the appearance of the false-Messiah which the unbelieving Jews will setup as their Messiah in Jerusalem. He will make the "league" of Daniel 11:21-23 with "a small people" (a small group of orthodox Jews in Jerusalem). That "league" represents the establishing of the 'covenant' of Daniel 9:27. He will enter into power at Jerusalem using peace. That covenant, or league, is to be for 7 years. The first half will involve the rebuilding of the 3rd temple and start up of temple worship again with daily sacrifices. The orthodox Jews still believe they are under the old covenant today, and need a stone temple to properly worship, and still await Messiah's 1st coming.

4. the false-Messiah, after the first 1260 days of that 7 year period, will end... the daily sacrifices in Jerusalem, and instead place the "abomination that maketh desolate" (Daniel 11:31). That idol will be the "image of the beast" we are warned about in Revelation 13:14-15. Per Christ's Olivet discourse, that will begin the time of "great tribulation" for the end.

5. just as Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, did in Daniel's days with making a gold idol image of himself demanding that all bow to it and worship it or be killed, the final Antichrist-false-Messiah will do the same with that "image of the beast" idol he will setup.

If you are still living when those events happen, know that you are in the time of "great tribulation", and Lord Jesus' return will be just around the corner, so refuse... to bow to that "image of the beast" and refuse his mark, for it will only be for a short time to wait on Jesus to come.
There is no singular antichrist Davy, in fact there were already many and the apostasy had already started by the Apostle John's death. Of course they are still on the scene, and have drawn many followers after themselves as the Bible predicted. We are very close to the start of the great tribulation, so keeping as distant as possible from the world is a must, seek God's Kingdom first.
 

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There is no singular antichrist Davy, in fact there were already many and the apostasy had already started by the Apostle John's death. Of course they are still on the scene, and have drawn many followers after themselves as the Bible predicted. We are very close to the start of the great tribulation, so keeping as distant as possible from the world is a must, seek God's Kingdom first.
Yes there IS... a SINGULAR antichrist. You've simply been taught to deny the actual 1 John 2:18 Scripture.

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and
as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV


The 1st phrase in red about "antichrist" above is SINGULAR. How did they already hear that "antichrist" shall come? From Lord Jesus in John 14:30 (probably another verse the JW organization has hid from you.)

The 2nd phrase in green is about the "many antichrists" that work for the head antichrist (the devil).

Jesus pointed to BOTH antichrist types for the end in His Olivet discourse. The "many antichrists" He covered in Matthew 24:5 when He warned of many coming in His name saying they are Christ. Then later in Matthew 24:23-26, He pointed to a SINGULAR antichrist that will work great signs and wonders that IF POSSIBLE, would even deceive His very elect. That is the pseudo-Christ of verse 24 mistranslated to "false Christs". The actual Greek word is pseudochristos, from 2 Greek words, pseudo (fake) and christos (Christ-singular). Even a closer look at the context of the Matthew 24:23-26 warning shows it's about a singular antichrist entity.

Apostle Paul covered both antichrist ideas too in 2 Thessalonians 2. The 1st one is that "man of sin" that is to sit in a temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself as God. The 2nd antichrist idea is Paul's "mystery of iniquity" that he said is already at work. That is John's idea that "...even now are there many antichrists..."
 

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Yes there IS... a SINGULAR antichrist. You've simply been taught to deny the actual 1 John 2:18 Scripture.

1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and
as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
KJV


The 1st phrase in red about "antichrist" above is SINGULAR. How did they already hear that "antichrist" shall come? From Lord Jesus in John 14:30 (probably another verse the JW organization has hid from you.)

The 2nd phrase in green is about the "many antichrists" that work for the head antichrist (the devil).

Jesus pointed to BOTH antichrist types for the end in His Olivet discourse. The "many antichrists" He covered in Matthew 24:5 when He warned of many coming in His name saying they are Christ. Then later in Matthew 24:23-26, He pointed to a SINGULAR antichrist that will work great signs and wonders that IF POSSIBLE, would even deceive His very elect. That is the pseudo-Christ of verse 24 mistranslated to "false Christs". The actual Greek word is pseudochristos, from 2 Greek words, pseudo (fake) and christos (Christ-singular). Even a closer look at the context of the Matthew 24:23-26 warning shows it's about a singular antichrist entity.

Apostle Paul covered both antichrist ideas too in 2 Thessalonians 2. The 1st one is that "man of sin" that is to sit in a temple in Jerusalem and proclaim himself as God. The 2nd antichrist idea is Paul's "mystery of iniquity" that he said is already at work. That is John's idea that "...even now are there many antichrists..."
Time will tell Davy
 

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Time will tell Davy
The Scriptures are plain enough. It's just a matter of whether or not one wants to heed the written Scripture.

The Revelation 13:11-14 example I didn't include, but it is another Scripture proof of a SINGULAR false-Messiah coming at the end of this world...

Rev 13:11-15
11 And I beheld
another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

That "another beast" coming up out of the earth reminds me of someone, doesn't it remind you? It's the beast king of Revelation 17:8 that will ascend out of the bottomless pit. Wonder who that would be? It's even the same beast of Rev.11:7 that will ascend out of the bottomless pit and kill God's two witnesses in the street of Jerusalem.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And
he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

There's that idea of miracle working he will do to deceive that Jesus warned about in Matthew 24:23-24, and Paul warned about in 2 Thessalonians 2.

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

The power of miracles that false one is going to work on earth is the main working that will cause the future "strong delusion" Paul pointed to in 2 Thess.2.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
KJV


By the above setting up of that "image of the beast", that event will parallel what Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon did in his days. Neb setup a gold idol of himself and demanded that all bow to it, or be killed. Daniel was cast into the lion's den because he refused to bow to it.

And Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego were cast into the hot fiery furnace heated 7 times hotter than necessary. Neb then saw a FOURTH MAN in that hot furnace with them, and when they came out of that furnace, their clothes didn't even smell of smoke. That furnace represents the future event of God's consuming fire that will occur on the last day of this present world, as foretold by Apostle Peter (2 Peter 3:10). God's fire will not harm Christ's elect. But the Antichrist's servants, like the servants of the king of Babylon, they were incinerated when they just got close... to that hot fiery furnace.

So even with the historical events of the time of Daniel and the king of Babylon, we are given a parallel for the end involving Christ's elect and the coming 'singular' Antichrist-false messiah.
 
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1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Some people believe that the end-time 'anti-Christ' is never called "the anti-Christ" in scripture and that it's a 'spirit' and NOT an individual, but the KJV does no justice to the verse. He IS one individual since there are several times personal pronouns are used to describe him.

This verse has one word for antichrist that is singular, the other plural, and wasn't translated correctly in the KJV.

"Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that (THE) antichrist (singular) shall come, even now are there many antichrists; (plural) whereby we know that it is the last time."

The verse actually reads in the Greek interlinear like this...

Little boys and girls, it is the last hour and according as ye hear that THE "instead-anointed" (antichrist) is coming and now many instead anointeds have become.....

Over a dozen bible translations use the word 'the' in the translation of 1 John 2:18. Like the NIV does...

"Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that THE antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour."

I would actually interpret this verse like this,

"Many antichrist have come, and the antichrist is coming, that's how you will know it's the last hour."

As simple as dropping the word 'THE' usually isn't something that changes things very much, but in this case, and with this argument it does. In every aspect I study this, I never walk away believing this is a plurality of persons. i.e. "many anti-Christ." Especially when personal pronouns are used to describe this man elsewhere.
Hi Monday, welcome to the forum. I am not sure what exactly you believe about a coming antichrist, but like the penman John, I believe many have already came on the scene. An antichrist is one who distorts Jesus' teachings and draws followers after himself, and there have been so many false christs as Jesus predicted that today there are thousands of sects that left the faith. John was so correct that many were already on the scene in his day, the foretold apostasy was already underway.
 
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And one of their pet false doctrines is the vain idea that the 2 Thess.2:4 "temple of God" that the coming Antichrist is to sit in represents Christ's Church.
Correct. That is a totally absurd idea. But that is what happens when people play fast and loose with Scripture while they choose to be willfully blind.

There is no question that there will be a THIRD TEMPLE in Jerusalem as Christ and the apostles prophesied. It seems like an improbability, but Bible prophecies can be trusted completely. The Man of Sin, the Son of Perdition, the Antichrist, the Beast will in fact sit in "the temple of God" claiming that he is God. And because he will do astounding miracles, the whole world will worship him (barring a few who will know the truth).

At the same time "the temple of God" does not necessarily mean that God has authorized this temple or has anything to do with it. That is simply a technical designation for the temple which sits in Jerusalem. It was destroyed, and will again be built by unbelieving Jews. All plans are in place for this temple.
 
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Many are not familiar with the history of the Protestant rebellion in which the Protestants were persecuted by the Catholic Church that had a certain amount of control in European government. The Protestants then thought the pope was the Antichrist prophesied for the end of this world. That false idea became a major component of the Reformation.

Thus became the false interpretation that Apostle Paul's "temple of God" in 2 Thessalonians 2 meant the Church, with a pope as the "man of sin". That's likely where the idea got started.

And today, Reformed Theology is still taught in several seminaries, like Presbyterian, some Baptists, Calvinists, etc.

The bottom line though is, that the 15th-16th century Reformer's belief about a Catholic pope as the Antichrist for the end, failed. It did not pan out. The final Antichrist for the end still is not revealed on earth yet today, because that "temple of God" Paul pointed to has other Bible prophecies tied to it than just the "man of sin" sitting in it. That future temple is where the Book of Daniel points to as a literal standing stone temple for the "abomination of desolation" idol to be setup in. This future event Lord Jesus Himself even described for the end of this world in Matthew 24 and Mark 13.
 

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Thanks for the welcome.

I've changed my mind about anti-Christ and THEE anti-Christ etc. I think we all should consider at this as things develop.

I'm convinced that Globalism and the NWO is prophesied, but I think there is a distinction between this leader and the anti-Christ - who comes against Israel in the end.

The global dictator is likely mentioned in Daniel 7 as the 'one headed ten horned beast'. This would be a Klaus Schwab type of guy.

"behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things"

The horn may represent the leader under the NWO, and the eyes may represent surveillance and controls through AI in a digital world.

IOW - I'm no longer convinced the "anti-Christ" is a global dictator but view him as a Middle East Character described as an Assyrian who unites a 10/7 alliance of nations who hate Israel. Most of them are likely mentioned in Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39.
 

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Thanks for the welcome.

I've changed my mind about anti-Christ and THEE anti-Christ etc. I think we all should consider at this as things develop.

I'm convinced that Globalism and the NWO is prophesied, but I think there is a distinction between this leader and the anti-Christ - who comes against Israel in the end.

The global dictator is likely mentioned in Daniel 7 as the 'one headed ten horned beast'. This would be a Klaus Schwab type of guy.

"behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things"

The horn may represent the leader under the NWO, and the eyes may represent surveillance and controls through AI in a digital world.

IOW - I'm no longer convinced the "anti-Christ" is a global dictator but view him as a Middle East Character described as an Assyrian who unites a 10/7 alliance of nations who hate Israel. Most of them are likely mentioned in Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38-39.
Various faiths have proclaimed there would be an antichrist that will gain power and rule for a period of time. It is rather easy to see by reading all the verses that deal with antichrist(s) what it is and how they have advanced over the years. There is really no prophetic significance to apply it to an upcoming world leader. Daniel 7 is interpreted for us to a limited degree within itself. But still very subject to interpretation.

Even though there will be no peaceful world leader as an individual in my opinion, the concept is there to watch sir, 1 Thes 5:3 prophetically states: Whenever it is that they are saying, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction is to be instantly on them, just like birth pains on a pregnant woman, and they will by no means escape.

That is Scriptural, and it has not been fulfilled to God's satisfaction. Sometime in the near future, through the United Nations, you should see a notable peaceful time, but when you do, watch out because the stuff is about to hit the fan. Good chatting with you on this Wednesday, Monday :).
 
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@Robert Gwin

Are you a Jehovah witness?
If so do you believe in a second coming of Christ to redeem his saints?
Do you believe in heaven as our place of inheritance from life into immortality?

Please straight answers, no deflection. Thanks.
 

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What does that matter? When Christians STOP criticizing one another over non-damnable heresies maybe the world of unbelievers will consider turning to Jesus!
It matters to their belief of the word.
Any that don't hold to the word have a skewed version of TRUTH and even God.

I agree arguing is not Bible discussion. One must worship the true God of heaven not a manmade caricature.
 
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Enoch111

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The bottom line though is, that the 15th-16th century Reformer's belief about a Catholic pope as the Antichrist for the end, failed.
Then it became "the papacy". And then 1260 days became 1260 years. When the actual Antichrist shows up the papacy will no doubt support him.
 
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