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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:

Exodus 20:3-17:

1/ You shall have no other gods before Me.

It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve.

Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7

2/ You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.

God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14

3/ You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.

I say to you: do not swear at all…let your yes be yes and your no be no, for whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37, 1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7

4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

5/ Honour your father and mother.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20

6/ You shall not murder.

I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15

7/ You shall not commit adultery.

I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4

8/ You shall not steal.

Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom.

1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28

9/ You shall not bear false witness.

For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Colossians3:9

10/ You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.

Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses.

Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5

Further New Testament scriptures:

John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Luke 16:16a The Law and the prophets were until John the Baptizer, now the good news of the Kingdom is preached...

Matthew 5:17 I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.

Romans 6:15 Can we sin then because we are not under the Law? God forbid!

Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Are the Ten Commandments still in effect? In principal they still are. Those Ten Commandments are restated and expanded by Jesus, we must obey them and do God’s will for us today. Matthew 5:20, 1 Peter 2:16
 
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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:

Exodus 20:3-17:


1/ You shall have no other gods before Me.

It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve.

Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7

2/ You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.

God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14

3/ You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.

I say to you: do not swear at all…let your yes be yes and your no be no, for whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37, 1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7

4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

5/ Honour your father and mother.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20

6/ You shall not murder.

I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15

7/ You shall not commit adultery.

I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4

8/ You shall not steal.

Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom.

1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28

9/ You shall not bear false witness.

For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Colossians3:9

10/ You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.

Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses.

Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5

Further New Testament scriptures:

John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Luke 16:16a The Law and the prophets were until John the Baptizer, now the good news of the Kingdom is preached...

Matthew 5:17 I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.

Romans 6:15 Can we sin then because we are not under the Law? God forbid!

Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Are the Ten Commandments still in effect? In principal they still are. Those Ten Commandments are restated and expanded by Jesus, we must obey them and do God’s will for us today. Matthew 5:20, 1 Peter 2:16
" By the works of the Law no flesh shall be justified"
 

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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:

Exodus 20:3-17:


1/ You shall have no other gods before Me.

It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve.

Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7

2/ You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.

God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14

3/ You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.

I say to you: do not swear at all…let your yes be yes and your no be no, for whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37, 1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7

4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

5/ Honour your father and mother.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20

6/ You shall not murder.

I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15

7/ You shall not commit adultery.

I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4

8/ You shall not steal.

Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom.

1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28

9/ You shall not bear false witness.

For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Colossians3:9

10/ You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.

Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses.

Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5

Further New Testament scriptures:

John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Luke 16:16a The Law and the prophets were until John the Baptizer, now the good news of the Kingdom is preached...

Matthew 5:17 I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.

Romans 6:15 Can we sin then because we are not under the Law? God forbid!

Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Are the Ten Commandments still in effect? In principal they still are. Those Ten Commandments are restated and expanded by Jesus, we must obey them and do God’s will for us today. Matthew 5:20, 1 Peter 2:16
" God's Will" is for us to " Believe in the One that He sent"....
 

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The Ten Commandments expanded by Jesus:

Exodus 20:3-17:


1/ You shall have no other gods before Me.

It is written: You shall worship the Lord your God and Him only you shall serve.

Luke 4:8, Matthew 4:10, Rev. 14:7

2/ You must not make for yourself a carved image, a likeness of anything in heaven, on earth, or under the sea.

God is Spirit and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

John 4:24, Acts 15:20, 1 Cor. 6:9, Ephesians 5:5, 1 Peter 4:3, 1 John 5:21, Rev. 2:14

3/ You shall not take the Name of the Lord your God in vain.

I say to you: do not swear at all…let your yes be yes and your no be no, for whatever is more than these is from the evil one. Matthew 5:34-37, 1 Timothy 6:1, James 2:7

4/ Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

The Sabbath [seventh day] was made for man, not man for the Sabbath, so the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. Mark 2:27-28

For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2

5/ Honour your father and mother.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. Ephesians 6:1, Col 3:20

6/ You shall not murder.

I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you, that you may be sons of your Father in heaven.

Matthew 5:44-45, Matt. 5:21-26, Romans 13:9, 1 Tim. 1:9, 1 John 3:15

7/ You shall not commit adultery.

I say to you whoever even looks at another in lust has already committed adultery in their heart. Matthew 5:28, 1 Cor. 5:11, 1 Cor. 6:18, Galatians 5:19, Hebrews 13:4

8/ You shall not steal.

Neither thieves, the greedy, or drunkards and robbers will inherit the Kingdom.

1 Corinthians 6:10, Romans 2:21, Mark 7:21, Ephesians 4:28

9/ You shall not bear false witness.

For by your words, you will be justified and by your words you will be condemned. Matthew 15:19, Ephesians 4:25, Colossians3:9

10/ You shall not covet your neighbours possessions.

Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one’s life does not consist of the things he possesses.

Luke 12:15, Romans 7:7, Ephesians 5:3, 1 Tim. 6:10, Hebrews 13:5

Further New Testament scriptures:

John 1:17 The Law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

Luke 16:16a The Law and the prophets were until John the Baptizer, now the good news of the Kingdom is preached...

Matthew 5:17 I have come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it.

Romans 6:15 Can we sin then because we are not under the Law? God forbid!

Galatians 5:14 The whole Law is fulfilled in this: You shall love your neighbour as yourself.

Are the Ten Commandments still in effect? In principal they still are. Those Ten Commandments are restated and expanded by Jesus, we must obey them and do God’s will for us today. Matthew 5:20, 1 Peter 2:16

Just so you know this topic has already been addressed in an earlier thread.

Christ said that the Mosaic Law could not be changed and were in effect until all things would be accomplished.

Matthew 5:18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

But Christ took exception to the Mosaic Laws regarding life for a life....tooth for a tooth.....and the process of divorce. Did He change them?

As a whole the Mosaic Laws do not pertain to Christians....so many scriptures that prove that correct.

God does not define the ten items in chapter 20 of Exodus as commandments....He called the ten Laws in chapter 34:10-28 of Exodus the Ten Commandments and instructed Moses to write them on Tablets of the Testimony.

One of many misunderstandings that Christian have. Either way the 613 Mosaic Laws do not pertain to Christians....more than that, some are against Christian beliefs.....The Mosaic Law regulated relationships like polygamy and fathers selling their daughters into concubinage---sex slaves....and did not refer to either one as wrong or a sin. But still all of the Mosaic Laws....all 613 are still in effect for Jews and have not changed.

Further....the ten items in chapter 20 are a summary of Mosaic Laws, reiterated in more detail in the body of the 613 Mosaic Laws. So these summaries reflect some Jewish beliefs that are not Christian beliefs. We do not keep the Saturday Jewish Sabbath holy....we do not observe it. We do not observe the prohibition against engraved images..... look at your computer screen. Women are not listed on our insurance forms as our property....LOL

There are some moral aspects of the ten summaries of the Mosaic Law...and moral aspects of the 613 Mosaic Laws that reappear as morals in Christianity .... but not Laws.
 
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For Christians that seventh day is Sunday, as the first day of our week is Monday. Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2
When I was a child that was my understanding as well. But 33 years ago, I found out that a great portion of the world uses some form of the word "Sabbath" for what we call "Saturday."

And, as most who reject the original weekly timing of the Sabbath's occurrence demand a positive command from the New Testament to even consider its relevance today, it would seem that one should be demanded of a transfer of the day's solemnity to Sunday. But, alas, none can be produced.

And, honestly, I don't think that would have been enough information for me to be turned aside from my customary understanding of the subject and I'm not sure others would be wise to settle for that, either.

To me, the key to the importance of the 4th commandment rests not on an arbitrary requirement of its observance, but on the understanding of it as a functional, blessed gift from a loving God that is designed to benefit us in the way that He Himself has stated.


First of all, it seems clear enough that the Sabbath (along with all of the other commandments) cannot even be properly kept by one who has not availed himself of the New Covenant heart transformation that God was already acknowledging at the time of the 2nd giving of the law.

And second, the way that Sunday is kept today (because it was very different in my childhood) is nothing like what God intended would be the experience of His children. Business is carried on as if God were merely a machine providing the impetus for all of our whims and fancies. Folks bow before the mammoth LCD screen and watch men injure and maim each other for sport. God and His mercies and blessings are forgotten for most, if not nearly all of the day.

Surely there are exceptions (I see a lot of them among the groups that stem from old Mennonite orders near where I live), but in nearly all cases, Sunday is a festival well-suited for the unconverted, sin-loving heart.

It is nearly impossible to fake true Sabbath-keeping. A heart that is not tuned to the chord of God's self-sacrificing, other-centered love will find trying to fasten the hold of contemplation on Him for at least 16 waking hours to be veritable torment.

I remember when I finally "got" the Sabbath. I had been making a show of keeping it for longer than I would be pleased to admit. But I realized one day that when I had finally resolved and followed through on taking time during the week to pray and study the Bible and meditate upon Christ's matchless charms in preparation for the Sabbath, I found that it was like being a child during the Christmas season all over again except now it came every week! :D
 

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When I was a child that was my understanding as well. But 33 years ago, I found out that a great portion of the world uses some form of the word "Sabbath" for what we call "Saturday."

And, as most who reject the original weekly timing of the Sabbath's occurrence demand a positive command from the New Testament to even consider its relevance today, it would seem that one should be demanded of a transfer of the day's solemnity to Sunday. But, alas, none can be produced.

And, honestly, I don't think that would have been enough information for me to be turned aside from my customary understanding of the subject and I'm not sure others would be wise to settle for that, either.

To me, the key to the importance of the 4th commandment rests not on an arbitrary requirement of its observance, but on the understanding of it as a functional, blessed gift from a loving God that is designed to benefit us in the way that He Himself has stated.


First of all, it seems clear enough that the Sabbath (along with all of the other commandments) cannot even be properly kept by one who has not availed himself of the New Covenant heart transformation that God was already acknowledging at the time of the 2nd giving of the law.

And second, the way that Sunday is kept today (because it was very different in my childhood) is nothing like what God intended would be the experience of His children. Business is carried on as if God were merely a machine providing the impetus for all of our whims and fancies. Folks bow before the mammoth LCD screen and watch men injure and maim each other for sport. God and His mercies and blessings are forgotten for most, if not nearly all of the day.

Surely there are exceptions (I see a lot of them among the groups that stem from old Mennonite orders near where I live), but in nearly all cases, Sunday is a festival well-suited for the unconverted, sin-loving heart.

It is nearly impossible to fake true Sabbath-keeping. A heart that is not tuned to the chord of God's self-sacrificing, other-centered love will find trying to fasten the hold of contemplation on Him for at least 16 waking hours to be veritable torment.

I remember when I finally "got" the Sabbath. I had been making a show of keeping it for longer than I would be pleased to admit. But I realized one day that when I had finally resolved and followed through on taking time during the week to pray and study the Bible and meditate upon Christ's matchless charms in preparation for the Sabbath, I found that it was like being a child during the Christmas season all over again except now it came every week! :D

Barney ya got a bunch of wrong thinking going on here. I mean really where would I start.
 
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Well, straighten me out, GH. Start wherever you like, and:

"Get in there... and suck in that gut!!" :p
This is based on if I understand what you are saying.
To start with.....
The ten items in Chapter 20 are a summary of the basic morals in the Mosaic Law.
They are not the Laws that God called the Ten Commandments in Chapter 34.
They are not the Laws that God told Moses to write on the Tablets of the Testamony.
 
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This is based on if I understand what you are saying.
To start with.....
The ten items in Chapter 20 are a summary of the basic morals in the Mosaic Law.
They are not the Laws that God called the Ten Commandments in Chapter 34.
They are not the Laws that God told Moses to write on the Tablets of the Testamony.

Yeah, we've been over this ground before, GH. If you wanna lay it out and run it up the flag pole, maybe somebody'll salute it. Not me, I'm afraid. Sorry, Charlie. I got a thing with a guy at a place—you know how it is. ;)

Apologies in advance for any offenses brought about by my sometimes straightforward or even facetious comments. I love you all, I really do. :)
 

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Well, straighten me out, GH. Start wherever you like, and:

"Get in there... and suck in that gut!!" :p

There are probably 4 dozen scriptures where Paul explains that we are not under the Law and are not obligated to look at them or obey them. Christ makes this clear when He explained that we should not mix Judiasm with Christianity, because it would ruin both.

You will find no New Testament Scripture that says that Christians should know the 613 Mosaic Laws.

Th Galatians were dabbling with Judiam and the Mosiac Law and Paul was pretty severe with them.
You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? Galatians 3:1

Then he explained….

You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by the Law; you have fallen from grace.

Where is that line where you cross and you lose your salvation?

Bottom line messing around with Judiasm can severe you from Christ, Christianity, and salvation.

If you cannot resist sinning with the Jews….If you can’t beat them join’em. Convert to Judaism, at least that way you are honest with God and yourself.
 

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What are these to you?
What are you going to do with them?

Uh, I don't see anything.

Are you trying to be a Jew or a Jewish Christian?

I'm just trying to know Jesus, Whom to know is life eternal?

There are probably 4 dozen scriptures where Paul explains that we are not under the Law and are not obligated to look at them or obey them. Christ makes this clear when He explained that we should not mix Judiasm with Christianity, because it would ruin both.

You will find no New Testament Scripture that says that Christians should know the 613 Mosaic Laws.

Th Galatians were dabbling with Judiam and the Mosiac Law and Paul was pretty severe with them.
You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? Galatians 3:1

Then he explained….

You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by the Law; you have fallen from grace.

Where is that line where you cross and you lose your salvation?

Bottom line messing around with Judiasm can severe you from Christ, Christianity, and salvation.

If you cannot resist sinning with the Jews….If you can’t beat them join’em. Convert to Judaism, at least that way you are honest with God and yourself.

Wait, I thought I was just reading the wrong list of commandments, GH.

It's funny (peculiar):

I get accused of judging and condemning every which way I turn, but I never level charges at anyone like I get lobbed at me. I never claim to be justified by obeying God. I never tell anyone they're lost or dishonest. Oh, well. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do?
 

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Uh, I don't see anything.



I'm just trying to know Jesus, Whom to know is life eternal?



Wait, I thought I was just reading the wrong list of commandments, GH.

It's funny (peculiar):

I get accused of judging and condemning every which way I turn, but I never level charges at anyone like I get lobbed at me. I never claim to be justified by obeying God. I never tell anyone they're lost or dishonest. Oh, well. Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do?
LOL I am just warning you.....I am the least of it. Christ warned you and Paul warned you....You can believe Christ is a UFO pilot as far as I am concerned. My ministry is to tell the truth...The Johnny Appleseed of truth....but I am not responsiible for what you believe..

Now as far as the Jewish Saturday Sabbath....A holy day for Jew, not for Christians.....

Yahweh created everything and rested on th seventh day.....Saturday.
Sunday is the first day of the week and a holy day for Christians.
Because a lot of people work monday thru Friday a lot of poeple see Monday as the first day of the week.
 

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LOL I am just warning you.....I am the least of it. Christ warned you and Paul warned you....You can believe Christ is a UFO pilot as far as I am concerned. My ministry is to tell the truth...The Johnny Appleseed of truth....but I am not responsiible for what you believe..

I guess you're off the hook, then.

Now as far as the Jewish Saturday Sabbath....A holy day for Jew, not for Christians.....

Yahweh created everything and rested on th seventh day.....Saturday.
Sunday is the first day of the week and a holy day for Christians.
Because a lot of people work monday thru Friday a lot of poeple see Monday as the first day of the week.

Most of the Sunday-keeping I've seen over the last 30 years has been anything but holy. Likely because God never made it holy to begin with, I suppose.

And I can't concern myself too much with what people see as a certain numbered day of the week.

I've tested God's faithfulness to sustain myself and my family when I declined to work on the 7th day. He's never once let me down. Quite the contrary, actually.

Wait, I thought you didn't care what I believed. I'm confused, GH.
 

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I guess you're off the hook, then.



Most of the Sunday-keeping I've seen over the last 30 years has been anything but holy. Likely because God never made it holy to begin with, I suppose.

And I can't concern myself too much with what people see as a certain numbered day of the week.

I've tested God's faithfulness to sustain myself and my family when I declined to work on the 7th day. He's never once let me down. Quite the contrary, actually.

Wait, I thought you didn't care what I believed. I'm confused, GH.
Don't care. That is between you and God.

It is a long story....when I was a child and decided to start my own ministry.... I decided two things. 1. The Truth matters 2. I didn't want to be a preacher. Too much stress. LOL

The discussion about what you are trying to do with Judaism and Christianity leads to topics that people do not like.

Then the whole church thing. Again you have some wrong thinking going on there. People can justify not going to church by condemning something about it.....the church organization....the people .....whatever. I am a theologian and a historian....I know the evolution of the Christian Church.....like anything that humans are involved with, it is not perfect.

Over the centuries they manufactured a bunch of man-made sins, so they could condemn others while edifying themselves. Sins are Laws, they were doing what the Jewish leadership did. And it usually involved a lot of crotch sniffing. And over time it developed into a lazy-man's religion. Your "rightness" as a Christian, your "rightness" with God came to be about what you did not do, rather than what you did as a Christian. The Protestants have almost made doing Good Deeds a sin. Not going to Church is just another thing on the list that Christians justify by condemning. So it turned Christianity into a "don't doers" religion.... church being just another thing that a lot of Christians don't do.

Does God notice those that do not go to church and assemble with other Christians to worship Him and give Him thanks.....LOL....I am thinking so and it might be a topic on Judgment Day.....Some people do not like doing Good Deeds and some people do not like going to church.....It amounts to effort, You actually have to do something. How do a lot of people apply their Christian life....for many it is just lip service....and God knows that.

So I am a speaker....not a preacher....cast seeds of truth....it is up to God as to who are worthy of them....I don't even water'em. LOL