The things I am concerned about as a believer now that Biden/Harris are the presumed elect.

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As believers we need to live in the joy of the Lord and rest in His care for us- no matter what kind of political situation arises.

Given that here are things we need to watch to see if Goid will finish removing His grace from this nation.

1. What will the new govt. do about Israel and Jerusalem.

2. How long before the Dems, get Biden to resign so the most marxist senator in the senate can take control.

3. Been watching MSNBC- there is a lot of ominous talk about having people pay for the last four years. It is veiled, but it is there.

4. How far in dismantling law enforcement and letting more situations like Portland go unchecked?

5. We need to look at Pres.elect Bidens' cabinet picks will be. If they are moderate, things m ay not be so bad. If they are to teh left, we may have a temporary debt driven time of false propserity but that road will be very short.

6. Will AOC and the gang of like minded folks get there way and go after Trump associates and isolate Trump voters?

These are but a few things we need to be aware of. We must not be ignorant of our foes devices and to prepare for storms.
 
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2. How long before the Dems, get Biden to resign so the most marxist senator in the senate can take control.
You (and many others) are getting ahead of yourself. The whole process is now subject to critical scrutiny and review in almost all the states. Biden's bogus victory is simply an illusion.
 

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You (and many others) are getting ahead of yourself. The whole process is now subject to critical scrutiny and review in almost all the states. Biden's bogus victory is simply an illusion.

Exactly. Stop acting like it's a done thing OP. When the heck does the media decide? There is so much fraud provable like 10,000 dead people voted and that throws the whole State into doubt. There is video evidence that people brought in ballots in wagons when the counting place was "closed". There is so much much more so please stop acting defeated for once people
 

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Trump may pick back up Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania..
Possibly Georgia
Of course the gap between him and Biden will continue to narrow in Arizona.

Unsure about North Carolina.

But I noticed that the AP announced Biden as soon as the SCOTUS closed for the weekend. So Biden could have the weekend to declare himself the winner.

And make the overturned Election due to improper votes seem like a stolen Election.
 

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As believers we need to live in the joy of the Lord and rest in His care for us- no matter what kind of political situation arises.

Given that here are things we need to watch to see if Goid will finish removing His grace from this nation.

1. What will the new govt. do about Israel and Jerusalem.

2. How long before the Dems, get Biden to resign so the most marxist senator in the senate can take control.

3. Been watching MSNBC- there is a lot of ominous talk about having people pay for the last four years. It is veiled, but it is there.

4. How far in dismantling law enforcement and letting more situations like Portland go unchecked?

5. We need to look at Pres.elect Bidens' cabinet picks will be. If they are moderate, things m ay not be so bad. If they are to teh left, we may have a temporary debt driven time of false propserity but that road will be very short.

6. Will AOC and the gang of like minded folks get there way and go after Trump associates and isolate Trump voters?

These are but a few things we need to be aware of. We must not be ignorant of our foes devices and to prepare for storms.

i doubt President Biden or the democratic controlled Congress will take revenge - manny democratic voters want them to, but democratic leaders want reconciliation and calm. I am much more worried about Trump burning down the White House before he leaves.
 
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i doubt President Biden or the democratic controlled Congress will take revenge - manny democratic voters want them to, but democratic leaders want reconciliation and calm. I am much more worried about Trump burning down the White House before he leaves.

Well the only admnistration to do anything that childish was the Clintons.

they took white house furniture and moved it Chappaqua only to have to have the Secret Service move it back. They also caused $180,000 in damage and were so petty they removed all teh W's from computer keyboards!

Trump is a sore loser no doubt, but not that.

And stop drinking the kool-aid thinking the dems want reconciliation. Many of the leadership want revenge and reversing most of the policies Trump installed.

Heck Beto talked about tearing down the wall that has been built! They want calm (cuz they know the right doesn't burn down cities like some of their followers do) but reconciliation is nonsense. They have a very radical leftist agenda they want passed! Harris didn't overnight convert from the most leftist senator and hater of the right to a reconciler! Nor did Sanders, Beto, teh Squad, Waters, Shumer, Durbin, Feinstein etc.etc.

I will not be surprised if after Biden takes the oath, they won't kick around the idea of impeaching Barrett and Kavanuagh.

Don't be decieved the nation will lurch far left , even further if the Dems take the senate. They were unanimous in their opposition to Trump and they will be looking to lurch us left.

We will have a time of debt driven prosperity, but when that bill comes do- it is going to destroy what is left of our constitutional republic.
 
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You (and many others) are getting ahead of yourself. The whole process is now subject to critical scrutiny and review in almost all the states. Biden's bogus victory is simply an illusion.

But you forget that teh states he flipped are mostly left leaning states. His victory could very well be bogus, but unless SCOTUS orders areview of the ballots in the states Trump is suing in- Biden has won! I don't think SCOTUS will usurp state authority that far without some empirical evidence of systemic fraud. That is what originalists would do. Let the evidence determine what needs to be the remedy. So it is up to the right to get actual ballots in enough of a quantiuty in the contested states to launch something that big.
 

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Exactly. Stop acting like it's a done thing OP. When the heck does the media decide? There is so much fraud provable like 10,000 dead people voted and that throws the whole State into doubt. There is video evidence that people brought in ballots in wagons when the counting place was "closed". There is so much much more so please stop acting defeated for once people

Like I said, I believe that the election was stolen by the Dems. but for the Trump team to garner enough court approval to overturn enough electoral college votes is a huge uphill and high hurdle to cross over.

Teh media and the secret govt. still firmly left and the states in contest with lawsuits leaning left for the most part- I don't think they can undo the shenanigans I believe were done by the left.
 
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i doubt President Biden or the democratic controlled Congress will take revenge - manny democratic voters want them to, but democratic leaders want reconciliation and calm. I am much more worried about Trump burning down the White House before he leaves.

As far as I'm concerned, that is a genuine concern to have when we're talking about Trump. I'm even more concerned that he will call upon the right-wing extremist militias to gather at the WH to defend him and take up arms to prevent him from being removed from the WH premises. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump has to be forcibly removed because he will outright refuse to leave. I know some people who have wagered he'll have to be escorted out in handcuffs by the feds and/or the military. I hope that doesn't happen because it would really embarrass our country.
 
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Well the only admnistration to do anything that childish was the Clintons.

they took white house furniture and moved it Chappaqua only to have to have the Secret Service move it back. They also caused $180,000 in damage and were so petty they removed all teh W's from computer keyboards!

Trump is a sore loser no doubt, but not that.

And stop drinking the kool-aid thinking the dems want reconciliation. Many of the leadership want revenge and reversing most of the policies Trump installed.

Heck Beto talked about tearing down the wall that has been built! They want calm (cuz they know the right doesn't burn down cities like some of their followers do) but reconciliation is nonsense. They have a very radical leftist agenda they want passed! Harris didn't overnight convert from the most leftist senator and hater of the right to a reconciler! Nor did Sanders, Beto, teh Squad, Waters, Shumer, Durbin, Feinstein etc.etc.

I will not be surprised if after Biden takes the oath, they won't kick around the idea of impeaching Barrett and Kavanuagh.

Don't be decieved the nation will lurch far left , even further if the Dems take the senate. They were unanimous in their opposition to Trump and they will be looking to lurch us left.

We will have a time of debt driven prosperity, but when that bill comes do- it is going to destroy what is left of our constitutional republic.

getting rid of Trumps terrible policies is not revenge it’s good for the country! Anyway, it will probably be limited to his executive orders because Trump serious ignored congress and relied on them. Most Presidents get rid of previous admin executive orders. Also, I didn’t mean burning down the White House in a literal sense- I meant making as difficult a transition as possible for Biden - a bit of a middle finger to Biden and the country. Refusing to concede is just the beginning - he is already firing people for no reason as we speak (not literally because we are typing)
 

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As far as I'm concerned, that is a genuine concern to have when we're talking about Trump. I'm even more concerned that he will call upon the right-wing extremist militias to gather at the WH to defend him and take up arms to prevent him from being removed from the WH premises. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump has to be forcibly removed because he will outright refuse to leave. I know some people who have wagered he'll have to be escorted out in handcuffs by the feds and/or the military. I hope that doesn't happen because it would really embarrass our country.

it’s funny because Udae Trump Jr tweeted recently about 70 million Trump supporters being pissed and no cities burned down - as if we should be grateful. Of course, no Trumpster believes Trump has actually lost yet....give them more time for reality to sink in and we will asses the violence brought on by these people
 

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getting rid of Trumps terrible policies is not revenge it’s good for the country! Anyway, it will probably be limited to his executive orders because Trump serious ignored congress and relied on them. Most Presidents get rid of previous admin executive orders. Also, I didn’t mean burning down the White House in a literal sense- I meant making as difficult a transition as possible for Biden - a bit of a middle finger to Biden and the country. Refusing to concede is just the beginning - he is already firing people for no reason as we speak (not literally because we are typing)

So which of these terrible policies getting rid of will be good for the country.

1. Record unemployment for blacks?
2. Record unemployment for hispanics?
3. $500,000,000 opportunity zone grants for run down minority neighborhoods?
4. Cracking down on illegal immigration?
5. Securing our nations borders?
6. Appointing judges who will rule on what the laws says?
7. Near record unemployment for the nation?
8. Pulling to of a climate deal that allows the worst polluters to continue to pollute while punishing America?
9. Being a president who put America First?
10. Made the european allies pay their fair share for the defense of their own nations?
11. Renegotiating trade deals that were very unfair to America?
12. Forcing China to trade fair?
13. Standing up for our allies being threatened by China?
14. Standing strong with Israel?
15. slapping the hardest sanctions ever on Russia?
16. REcognizing Taiwan and Jerusalem?
17. Slapping the harshest sanction on Iran?
18. Being the only president in modern times that did not start a war or conflict that required our troops?

Tell me, which of these are bad policies.


As for EO's and ignoring congress- Obama was the master. At least no Repub politician had the gall to tear up one of Obama's SOTU address on international television.

Listen Trumps personality leaves much to be desired! He has been the "least presidential" acting president since far before we were born. But I don't see any of his policies having done any harm to America!
 
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So which of these terrible policies getting rid of will be good for the country.

1. Record unemployment for blacks?
2. Record unemployment for hispanics?
3. $500,000,000 opportunity zone grants for run down minority neighborhoods?
4. Cracking down on illegal immigration?
5. Securing our nations borders?
6. Appointing judges who will rule on what the laws says?
7. Near record unemployment for the nation?
8. Pulling to of a climate deal that allows the worst polluters to continue to pollute while punishing America?
9. Being a president who put America First?
10. Made the european allies pay their fair share for the defense of their own nations?
11. Renegotiating trade deals that were very unfair to America?
12. Forcing China to trade fair?
13. Standing up for our allies being threatened by China?
14. Standing strong with Israel?
15. slapping the hardest sanctions ever on Russia?
16. REcognizing Taiwan and Jerusalem?
17. Slapping the harshest sanction on Iran?
18. Being the only president in modern times that did not start a war or conflict that required our troops?

Tell me, which of these are bad policies.


As for EO's and ignoring congress- Obama was the master. At least no Repub politician had the gall to tear up one of Obama's SOTU address on international television.

Listen Trumps personality leaves much to be desired! He has been the "least presidential" acting president since far before we were born. But I don't see any of his policies having done any harm to America!

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also, if your list is accurate, tell me how any of it has helped America? Obama reached out to Republicans over and over again and received a brick wall of opposition. The very fact that Trump spent his only term in office dismantling as much of Obama's achievements, shows how much the Republican establishment loathed Obama. It seems pretty obvious to me that Republicans agreed to put u with Trump's circus in exchanged for judges and dismantling everything Obama
 
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also, if your list is accurate, tell me how any of it has helped America? Obama reached out to Republicans over and over again and received a brick wall of opposition. The very fact that Trump spent his only term in office dismantling as much of Obama's achievements, shows how much the Republican establishment loathed Obama. It seems pretty obvious to me that Republicans agreed to put u with Trump's circus in exchanged for judges and dismantling everything Obama

Really how have any of these policies helped America? Do you really not know??

Of course with the global pandemic going on- no nation is doing well at all!

But manufacturing was regrown in America, less people needed govt. assistance programs, home ownership was rising again, less illegals crossing our borders? You do not know how this is good for America?

More people working- you think this was a bad thing?

What are Bidens stated policies going to do to help America?

How is going green going to help?
Where is he going to get teh energy to fuel the 500,000 electric recharging stations he wants?

Ho wmany peopel are going to want to wait long minutes and even an hour or more to "fill " their car?

Who is going to be able to afford teh exorbitant prices of all electric cars?

Hesays His green deal wil create hundreds of thousands of jobs. but what about teh milli0ons lost in teh energy industry. Do you think one can just wave a wand and make a pipe layer an expert in working in solar energy?
 

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also, if your list is accurate, tell me how any of it has helped America? Obama reached out to Republicans over and over again and received a brick wall of opposition. The very fact that Trump spent his only term in office dismantling as much of Obama's achievements, shows how much the Republican establishment loathed Obama. It seems pretty obvious to me that Republicans agreed to put u with Trump's circus in exchanged for judges and dismantling everything Obama

And you are wrong- they didn't loathe Obama, they loathed his policies. Under Obama medicare went from the third to the highest budget item of the fed govt. and Biden wants to add to it. It has topped $1 trillion in spending

I am glad we left the Paris accords. Why should America pay for other to keep polluting. We reduced our footprint over 15% under Trump without legislation!

Iran? If anyone believes they are abiding by the accord they signed- have them come see me, I have land 25 miles south of the Florida Keys I want to sell them.

1also middle class wages went up over $6,500 during Trumps four years as compared to $1,700 during Trumps 8 years! Think Biden will do better with taxing business and wealthy more than they already are!

REmember every penny a corporation is taxed is passed on in th eprice of their goods or services- so we pay for them.

Last year the top 10% paid 70% of the federal income tax collected. What do you think a fair share is! The bottom 25% of wage earners get more back in tax credits than they paid in federalincome tax during the year!
 
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I am much more worried about Trump burning down the White House before he leaves.

Trump has never smoked...unlike Joes Whacky WEED smoking Veep choice...lol
 

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As believers we need to live in the joy of the Lord and rest in His care for us- no matter what kind of political situation arises.

Given that here are things we need to watch to see if Goid will finish removing His grace from this nation.

1. What will the new govt. do about Israel and Jerusalem.

2. How long before the Dems, get Biden to resign so the most marxist senator in the senate can take control.

3. Been watching MSNBC- there is a lot of ominous talk about having people pay for the last four years. It is veiled, but it is there.

4. How far in dismantling law enforcement and letting more situations like Portland go unchecked?

5. We need to look at Pres.elect Bidens' cabinet picks will be. If they are moderate, things m ay not be so bad. If they are to teh left, we may have a temporary debt driven time of false propserity but that road will be very short.

6. Will AOC and the gang of like minded folks get there way and go after Trump associates and isolate Trump voters?

These are but a few things we need to be aware of. We must not be ignorant of our foes devices and to prepare for storms.
I see that fear is just under the surface RN. Here's something to think about; God does not remove his Grace, we push it away. His kindness endures forever yet we feel threatened by it.......isn't that odd.....isn't that a revealing of the madness which dwells in our spirit's.
 

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I see that fear is just under the surface RN. Here's something to think about; God does not remove his Grace, we push it away. His kindness endures forever yet we feel threatened by it.......isn't that odd.....isn't that a revealing of the madness which dwells in our spirit's.

Concerning Things, with a Socalist Marxist Regime wielding utter Power...IMBALANCE...
OF CHECKS.

Backdoor, persuasion and cheating to Gain positions of utter Power is nothing new.

Backdoor, chipping away, bit by bit of the Govern-ED's LIBERTY, is nothing new.

Utter CONTROL by a Socalist Marxist Regime...
whom:
Their Underhandedness...IS WELL KNOWN...
whom:
Their Agenda and Intent ...IS WELL KNOWN...

"IS" of the UTMOST GRAVE Concern, OF LIBERTY, God Himself has Given to Every man; The Established US Government Agreed; and An Evil Regime is Cheating for Ultimate Power to Destroy that Civil Liberty.
(and BTW...Promoting the destruction of Spiritual Liberty as well)

Relief...Civily is BY Resistance and Truth.
Relief...Spiritually is BY Trust in God and His Truth and His Comfort.

Glory to God,
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