The Tribulation Calamity Events ??

[Bible_Gazer]

Rev.6 The four horse men - Calamity and death

Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses

Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God

Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth.

The sixth seal - wrath is coming on the enemies of God Rev. 6

Rev.7:1 - the 4 winds to hurt the earth

Rev.8 and 9 and 11 - the seven trumpets

Rev.16 The seven vials

Rev.14 The Angel with the sharp sickle gather the vine of the earth for the wrath of God

Rev.17 Ten kings turn against the Harlot system, destroys her

Rev.18:8 Babylon plagues come in one day and shall be burned with fire

Rev.19 Jesus and his Armies war against the Beast , Kings, and false prophet cast into the lake of fire

Rev.2:26-27 Overcomers rule with a rod of iron breaking down the nations

Tinkering with the thinkers

Can you figure all this out, when all this will happen, to some it seem to be all in a short time span ?

Sure looks like a lot is going on to get the job done in the plan.

There is a lot of individuals doing a lot of things - God, Angels, Satan, Overcomers, Jesus's armies, Beast, Kings, false prophet, The Horsemen

 

[Stranger]

Rev.6 The four horse men - Calamity and death

Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses

Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God

Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth.

The sixth seal - wrath is coming on the enemies of God Rev. 6

Rev.7:1 - the 4 winds to hurt the earth

Rev.8 and 9 and 11 - the seven trumpets

Rev.16 The seven vials

Rev.14 The Angel with the sharp sickle gather the vine of the earth for the wrath of God

Rev.17 Ten kings turn against the Harlot system, destroys her

Rev.18:8 Babylon plagues come in one day and shall be burned with fire

Rev.19 Jesus and his Armies war against the Beast , Kings, and false prophet cast into the lake of fire

Rev.2:26-27 Overcomers rule with a rod of iron breaking down the nations

Tinkering with the thinkers

Can you figure all this out, when all this will happen, to some it seem to be all in a short time span ?

Sure looks like a lot is going on to get the job done in the plan.

Seven years is a terribly long time when things are going wrong. Much less the last three and one half years. When each day seems an eternity to get through, seven years is forever.

Stranger

 

[101G]

The four horse men - Rev. 6 - Calamity and death

Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses

Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God

Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth.

The sixth seal - wrath is coming on the enemies of God Rev. 6

Rev.7:1 - the 4 winds to hurt the earth

Rev.8 and 9 and 11 - the seven trumpets

Rev.16 The seven vials

Rev.14 The Angel with the sharp sickle gather the vine of the earth for the wrath of God

Rev.17 Ten kings turn against the Harlot system, destroys her

Rev.18:8 Babylon plagues come in one day and shall be burned with fire

Rev.19 Jesus and his Armies war against the Beast , Kings, and false prophet cast into the lake of fire

Rev.2:26-27 Overcomers rule with a rod of iron breaking down the nations

Tinkering with the thinkers

Can you figure all this out, when all this will happen, to some it seem to be all in a short time span ?

Sure looks like a lot is going on to get the job done in the plan.

Addressing the OP only. it seems like, but it not. and the JOB will get don, which some have already been done.

not all these events are Tribulation Events, some before, during, and after.

A. "The four horse men" are Judgments on the world, see Ezekiel 14:14 - 21, but the whole chapter is worth your read.

B. "Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses". the two witness are John the Baptist, and the Lord Jesus the Christ respectively.

C. "Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth". the saint who are martyr. see Revelation 6:9 - 11.

D. "The sixth seal - wrath is coming on the enemies of God Rev. 6", see Revelation 20:6 - 10.

E. "Rev.7:1 - the 4 winds to hurt the earth". the four judgements on the earth, after the saints are sealed.

F. "Rev.8 and 9 and 11 - the seven trumpets", "Rev.16 The seven vials", or historal events, 11, 10, 9, 8 the reverse order. witness, spread of the gospel, persecution, saintification.

G. "Rev.17 Ten kings turn against the Harlot system, destroys her, "Rev.18:8 Babylon plagues come in one day and shall be burned with fire". the illegal religious system of the world.

H. "Rev.19 Jesus and his Armies war against the Beast , Kings, and false prophet cast into the lake of fire" see D. above.

I. "Rev.2:26-27 Overcomers rule with a rod of iron breaking down the nations". this is based on the work of the two witness, B. above.

PICJAG.

 

[Keraz]

not all these events are Tribulation Events, some before, during, and after.

I agree. Only the 7 Trumpets and the 7 Bowls will happen during the final 3 1/2 years before Jesus Returns.

The next prophesied event to occur, is the Sixth Seal worldwide disaster, that will set the scene for the establishment of a One World Government, led by 10 Presidents.
But all those Christians who stood firm in their faith for the Lord's protection, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, will be motivated to travel to and live in all of the holy Land. Psalms 107, Ezekiel 34:11-16, Isaiah 35:1-10, +
The holy people of God are there when the leader of the OWG comes to Jerusalem in force and takes control of the entire world. Daniel 7:23-25, Revelation 13:5-8, Zechariah 14:1-2, which starts the Great Tribulation punishments onto the ungodly. The faithful Christian people of God will be taken to a place of safety on earth for that 1260 days. Revelation 12:14

 

[historyb]

Can you figure all this out, when all this will happen, to some it seem to be all in a short time span ?

Already happened in Ancient times.

 

[Keraz]

Already happened in Ancient times.

Someone who denies that we do have a future and who ignores 1/3rd of the Bible.

 

[Bible_Gazer]

Rev.6 The four horse men - Calamity and death
Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses
Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God
Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth

So we have the Rev.13 beast ruling for 42 months - or 3 1/2 years.
The earth Image beast rules for maybe the last 3 1/2 years which makes it 7 years ??
The other Beast in Rev. 17 rules for 1 hour = …………...
The Red Dragon goes after the woman she is hid 3 1/2 years, war is at the end with the remnant. maybe the first part of the 7 year ???

The Four Horsemen = doesn't say when they start, as far as anything to do with the so call 7 years.

???

 

[Bible_Gazer]

 

[Davy]

Rev.6 The four horse men - Calamity and death

Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses

Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God

Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth.

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Jesus gave only 7 main signs of the end, which are in His Olivet discourse, and they parallel the signs in the Seals of Revelation 6.

He showed the very end (i.e., tribulation time) will be a time of world peace for the deceived and wicked.

He warned to not believe others when they say He is here, or there, or in the desert or the secret chambers (i.e., temple). It will be a fake Christ doing great signs and wonders that if possible would deceive even His very elect.

He told His servants in Judea at the end when they see the abomination idol setup in a new temple in Jerusalem, to flee; and for those of His in the countries to not enter therein. Reason is because He is going to come with His angels to flatten that temple the coming Antichrist-false Messiah will build in claiming to be Christ.

All the world will worship the "dragon", i.e., Satan, the devil, that old serpent, when he comes to earth in person working those great signs and wonders, claiming to be Christ, sitting in the future new temple the orthodox Jews plan to build at the end of this world.

Those who will not bow to him by being deceived into thinking he is our Lord Jesus Christ, will be persecuted, even by some of our own loved ones, and some of us will be delivered up to Satan's synagogues and councils to give a Testimony for Jesus. Those testimonies will most likely be televised over the whole world, as The Holy Spirit is going speak through His elect delivered up to all nations and peoples via the true cloven tongue of Pentecost. All peoples will hear and understand in their native languages of birth. This will move the devil to try and destroy God's people off the earth once and for all, but he will not be able, for Christ and His Army from Heaven will come and fight for us.

It will not... be some flesh man as the coming Antichrist. It will be Satan himself, Lucifer, in person on earth. Though God created him as a heavenly being, he has the image likeness of a man. That is how he will appear in our dimension on earth, working great signs and miracles. The deceived will tell you he is someone else, but it will be the "dragon" himself on earth in Jerusalem, playing God.

 

[historyb]

Someone who denies that we do have a future and who ignores 1/3rd of the Bible.

Not at all. I deny your doctrine

 

[Keraz]

Like most churches throughout history, churches today compromise on what is taught to their flocks, preferring teachers who rationalize, allegorize, spiritualize, throw into the history bin, or simply ignore the prophetic scriptures. The church that believes Bible prophecies concerning the last days can only be understood allegorically or that prophecy is anything less than future reporting of events to come, is easy prey for Satan’s craftiness.

Satan, the great counterfeiter, deceives with half truths, often using scripture out of context, as he did with Jesus in the wilderness temptations. The same will be true with churches that say: yes these passages are literal, but they have no application to us, because they are trusting in the false assurance that they will be raptured away before those events occur. Once such people realize their great mistake, it will be too late to avoid the persecution of the Anti Christ. True believers in those churches will not lose their salvation, but they will endure suffering from which faithfulness to God and His Word, would have protected them. Thus genuine believers in the compromising churches may have to go through what Jesus described in His Olivet Discourse as the ‘Great Tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world.’

It is within the context of the Great Tribulation that Jesus warns the [allegorical type] Thyatiran and Laodicean church leaders– Rev 2:20-22 You tolerate Jezebel, whose teaching lures My servants into false beliefs, she refuses to repent, so I will throw her onto a bed of pain and those who commit [spiritual] adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they renounce what she is doing.

So those teachers who have misled Christians by not properly discerning the Word, will be punished and their flock won’t lose their salvation, but may be subject to the Tribulation. James 3:1 & Romans 5:9, 1 Thessalonians 1:10

On the other hand, believers who are spiritually prepared, faithful peoples, can look forward to the fulfilment of God’s great promises to His Christian people: great promises of protection during the next prophesied event – the Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, and then their amazing gathering into the new country of Beulah. Isaiah 62:1-5, Jeremiah 30, Ezekiel 36, Zephaniah 3:19-20, Malachi 4:1-6, Hosea 14:4-9 It is those people, the holy ones of God, who will welcome Jesus at His Return with the shout: ‘Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord’.

Genesis 18:17-19 ....I shall not conceal from Abraham what I am about to do, because he must tell his descendants what is just and right.
Just as the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah is used as an example of the terrible Day of the Lord, that will strike all the earth, so the Lord has warned us to take care to discern His Word, in order that we may tell our children to keep the Way of the Lord and to be aware of His plans for this end time. Jeremiah 23:14

2 Peter 3:7 & 10-12 The world is reserved for a Judgement of fire and the Day of the Lord’ wrath will come unexpectedly. On that Day, the heavens will disappear with a great noise, great flames of fire will bring all the earth into judgement. Since all things will be tested in this manner, think what sort of people you must be, what devout and dedicated lives you should live!

This prophecy does not refer to the New Heavens and New Earth to come after the Millennium and does not match with the descriptions of the glorious Return of Jesus, as many prophecies clearly state that He will not be seen during this forthcoming fire judgement. Psalms 11:4-6, Psalms 18:11, Habakkuk 3:4

Ref: REB, NIV, KJV verses abridged.

 

[Bible_Gazer]

Let us try a different view #2​

 

[Bible_Gazer]

So in chart #2
The so called Armageddon does not wipe out all the bad nations of the world.
That will come at the end time of the world 1John 2:15-17 - at the end of the 1,000 year(millennium) Rev.20
1 John 2:15-17 (KJV)
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

 

[bbyrd009]

Someone who denies that we do have a future and who ignores 1/3rd of the Bible.

well, might be happened, happening, and will happen too maybe?

 

[Davy]

Rev.6 The four horse men - Calamity and death
Rev.11 The beast from bottomless pit war against the two witnesses
Rev.12 The Red Dragon wars against the people of God
Rev.13 Those that are killed for not following the 2 Beasts from the sea and earth

So we have the Rev.13 beast ruling for 42 months - or 3 1/2 years.
The earth Image beast rules for maybe the last 3 1/2 years which makes it 7 years ??
The other Beast in Rev. 17 rules for 1 hour = …………...
The Red Dragon goes after the woman she is hid 3 1/2 years, war is at the end with the remnant. maybe the first part of the 7 year ???

The Four Horsemen = doesn't say when they start, as far as anything to do with the so call 7 years.

???

Paramount Anchor For Revelation Study -- not all the events occur in the order they are written, i.e., the latter part of the 6th Seal is about the day of Jesus' 2nd coming to pour out His wrath upon the wicked, which is the same event of the final 7th Vial, and final 7th Trumpet. Pay attention to the type of events and don't get bound up with trying to make the Seals all happen first, then the Trumpets, and then the Vials.

Heed our Lord Jesus' revelation about the "dragon". It is Satan himself that will come to play Christ and deceive the whole world, except Christ's elect that are sealed.

The most important timeline for the end are the last 3 Trumpet-Woe periods, starting in Rev.8 and continuing into Rev.11. The dragon comes on the 6th Seal (first part), the 6th Trumpet-2nd Woe, and the 6th Vial, the meaning of the number of his name, 666.

Prior to the 6th Seal, 6th Trumpet, 6th Vial, the dragon's workers on earth are busy preparing his kingdom and the world for his coming.

 

[bbyrd009]

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Hmm I wonder if a Phoenix could be considered a dragon now, hmm.
Yikes google "Phoenix etymology" for that one lol. (sorry, ipad won't import those)
I guess the Egyptians had a diff term, "Phoenix" is pretty young apparently

Um sorry in English that means go look at the Rothschild's shield

 

[Dave L]

Revelation is a book of symbols. If you expect the symbols to appear, it will never happen. If you look for what the symbols represent, you can see fulfillment past, present, and future.

 

[Bible_Gazer]

Revelation is a book of symbols. If you expect the symbols to appear, it will never happen. If you look for what the symbols represent, you can see fulfillment past, present, and future.

Wow! wouldn't that be something to see if a lot of those symbol came to life as it says.
Red Dragon
Two olive trees witnesses
the 4 beast - 6 wings full of eyes
Harlot sitting on the beast, water, and mountains and in the wilderness at the same time
Big locusts as horses
Jesus with a sharp twoedged sword coming out of his mouth

………..

Do agree Revelation is past, present, and future.
We do know it started with the 7 churches of Asia and it reaches down to the end where there will be no more death.
That covers according to Revelation about 3,000 years. So after Satan is placed into the bottomless pit, 1,000 years to go.

 

[bbyrd009]

Not saying that that is completely irrelevant or anything, but a more useful perspective might be that Christ is being revealed in you?

 

[Bible_Gazer]

Another View #3