The Whosoever Will

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savedbygrace57

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The whosoever will rev 22:17And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.false religon today have taken of Gods word and pieced together a man made philosophy, that goes for being Gods word [because Gods word is used] but in reality, its the word of depraved men . They are quick to take what is a universal application as to geogpraphical location, and decietfully make it apply to everyone individually in the world, as well as make it a condition for salvation. They take verbs like will, thirst,come, believe and ect and teach them as conditions, as to what one must do in order to get saved. This they teach instead of the Truth about Jesus christ, the sheperd of the sheep, and his perfect work of sacrifice, being the only conditioned that was needed to save his people [a multitude of sheep from every nation] from their sins..They deny that this work of christ alone saved elect sinners who believe from their sins, and believing is a result of having been redeemed instead of the cause of it..isa 43:But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.God calls them by the Gospel whom He has redeemed, and them are His Israel, His chosen ones, His sheep...Now the first thing to note about the deception is that the scripture is never addressed to simply whosoever !When speaking about applying whosoever to all individuals, then there is no need for qulafying verbs as believe, thirst, will, or come..what for if the call is simply for all no matter what..the call would be such as whosoever be saved or whosoever come , or just plain whosoever..but i ensure you, none of the false teachers can find a scripture or phrase like that..because such a unqualifying statement is not to be found in the bible..The bible is very specific as to who is called into the fellowship of Jesus christ and the Father..the first specific to those whom are called or addressed is those designated whosoever will..the word will is the greek word thelō which means:) to will, have in mind, intenda) to be resolved or determined, to purpose
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to desire, to wishc) to love1) to like to do a thing, be fond of doingd) to take delight in, have pleasureTo have in mind..this is important, because God puts it in mens mind to accomplish His pleasure..lets look at rev 17:17For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilledso, those who are being addressed as whosever will are these phil 2:13For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.So paul tells us in this verse, that it is those whom God is working in to #1 will.. so inorder to be one of the whosever will, God must first be working in you to will..or causing your willingeness..this is quite the opposite of those whom God does not effectually work in..then you have this jn 5:40And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.And all, by nature alone, both elect and non elect fall into this category..but to those whom God has a special interest in..namely His chosen ones..by the new birth, they are made willing because , for them, its the day of Gods power..ps 110:3Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.So this is the proper understanding of the whosever wills in scripture, its addressed to the thy people, or the sheep, or the elect, or the born again ones, or those whom God is now working in..to both will [made willing] and to do of His good pleasure..2 thess 1:11Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:Yes, the work of faith is a result of Gods power fulfilling His good pleasure..if you are one who has believed the false gospel of the freewillers, the arminans, and believe that whosoever will, means every single person in the world and all have a chance at getting saved, if they believe, or come, or repent or if they do anything..you are under the power of the god of this world, and have been decieved into believing a false gospel, your only hope today is if your one of Gods elect and He grants you repentance accoring to the election of grace.. __________________
 

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God wants all to be saved and Jesus died for all men, Calvinism is a doctrine of devils.
 

savedbygrace57

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God wants all to be saved
Yes all the chosen ones, but He desires the damnation of satan and his seed..
 

savedbygrace57

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QUOTE (Christina @ Mar 13 2009, 01:32 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70735
OH my ! I agree with you both Watchman and savedbygrace57
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what he doesnt understand is that all men are not men..but some are devils..jn 6 70 and God desires nothing more for them but eternal damnation, that serves His purpose for them..
 

Christina

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There is only one Devil, Satan, Lucifer what ever you call him he has many names .. He is the only one condemed to death and their are who are those of the Devil and actively work against God We call them Tares or Kennities but they are still men can still be saved if they chose to be there are fallen angels but they are not men only appear as men ...
 

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QUOTE (Christina @ Mar 13 2009, 01:05 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70738
There is only one Devil, Satan, Lucifer what ever you call him he has many names .. He is the only one condemed to death and their are who are those of the Devil and actively work against God We call them Tares or Kennities but they are still men can still be saved if they chose to be there are fallen angels but they are not men only appear as men ...
You're right Christina, it's been there in the bible in numerous areas... it can't be denied... but I already know what savedbygrace57 is going to say.
 

savedbygrace57

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There is only one Devil, Satan
He[satan] has a seed, which is one with him..Jesus christ seed is one with him also..QUOTE
Kennities but they are still men can still be saved if they chose to be
satans seed has no choice, but the choice which God created them for..hell..