There was absolutely no need for lock downs!

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Note: A study has been done to see if lock downs actually reduced death rates. The result was "No effect whatsoever". The full article is quoted from World News Daily, (WND) with my sub-headings in blue. It should be clear after reading this that lock downs were a political ploy to shut down economies, and that the Wuhan virus was politicized from day one.

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Study: Lockdowns had no effect on death rates!
Policies 'appear to be substantial long-run government failures'
By Art Moore

BIG TIME GOVERNMENT FAILURE
In a country-by-country comparison, a Danish professor has concluded the evidence shows the spring 2020 lockdowns in response to the coronavirus pandemic had no effect on death rates.

PROPER SCIENTIFIC STUDIES WERE CONDUCTED
Further, wrote Professor Christian Bjørnskov of Aarhus University, the unprecedented shutdown policies "appear to be substantial long-run government failures." His paper, "Did Lockdown Work? An Economist's Cross-Country Comparison," sought to "explore the association between the severity of lockdown policies in the first half of 2020 and mortality rates." The professor of economics used two indices from the University of Oxford's school of government as COVID-19 policy measures and compared weekly mortality rates from 24 European countries in the first halves of 2017-2020. "I find no clear association between lockdown policies and mortality development," he wrote. His paper reviewed two other studies that reached the same conclusion.

LOCKDOWNS PRODUCED A MAJOR RECESSION
"The lockdowns in most Western countries have thrown the world into the most severe recession since World War II and the most rapidly developing recession ever seen in mature market economies," Bjørnskov wrote. "They have also caused an erosion of fundamental rights and the separation of powers in large part of the world as both democratic and autocratic regimes have misused their emergency powers and ignored constitutional limits to policy-making."

SCHOLARLY METHODOLOGY COMPARED 24 COUNTRIES
He reasoned then that it's "important to evaluate whether and to which extent the lockdowns have worked as officially intended: to suppress the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and prevent deaths associated with it." In his comparison of 24 countries, he found the lockdowns did not work as intended, finding no association with lower mortality. The paper was published by The SSRN, formerly known as Social Science Research Network, which describes itself as "a repository for preprints and international journal devoted to the rapid dissemination of scholarly research in the social sciences and humanities and more."

LONG RUN GOVERNMENT FAILURES
'Long-run government failures'
Bjørnskov noted much has been made of Sweden's decision not to impose a full-scale lockdown. He pointed out that Sweden's mortality rates are 14% higher than in the preceding three years. That is slightly more than France but considerably lower than Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom, which all implemented much stricter policies. "The problem at hand is therefore that evidence from Sweden as well as the evidence presented here does not suggest that lockdowns have significantly affected the development of mortality in Europe," he said.


DEATHS WERE ACTUALLY HIGHER IN LOCK DOWNS
"It has nevertheless wreaked economic havoc in most societies and may lead to a substantial number of additional deaths for other reasons," wrote Bjørnskov. He cited a British government report from April predicting a limited lockdown could cause 185,000 excess deaths over the next years." Evaluated as a whole, at a first glance, the lockdown policies of the Spring of 2020 therefore appear to be substantial long-run government failures," the professor concluded.

RATIONALITY WAS ABANDONED
'Rationality has played only a small part' in public policy. A case against the coronavirus lockdowns also has been made by former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson in two self-published booklets available on Amazon.com. His latest is "Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns: Part 2: Update and Examination of Lockdowns as a Strategy." Berenson said in an interview with Fox News that it's important to get different perspectives at a time when 90% of media "is saying the same thing, with very little pushback or smart questioning." The lockdowns in the spring of 2020 "really came out of nowhere," he said.

LOCK DOWNS WERE PREVIOUSLY REJECTED
"When you look at the history of lockdowns, they were rejected over and over again as a tool when we were considering what to do about flu epidemics, including flu epidemics that would have been much worse than what the coronavirus epidemic is," Berenson said. "I'm talking about something up to the Spanish Flu, or possibly even worse than that. The health authorities and the scientists who considered this said, 'No lockdowns. Lockdowns don’t work.'" Previous data indicate lockdowns don't work once the epidemic stage is reached, he said. but government leaders did it anyway as they struggled to understand COVID-19. "We threw out a lot of work that we had done in a matter of days," Berenson said. "It is completely unprecedented. Wherever you stand on lockdowns, you should understand how unprecedented this is."

He said he would be surprised if there were additional lockdowns going forward, in part because "there is an understanding now of how destructive" they were to both society and the economy. "In Arizona, Texas and Florida, the worst of it is behind us in terms of the number of people hospitalized," Berenson said.

"The death counts will still continue to rise, but they accomplished that without a major lockdown. So, I think, rationally, governors who look at that and distance themselves from the media hysteria, will say, look in Houston ... Phoenix, Miami, without lockdowns those hospitals continued to function." Berenson said "rationality has played only a small part" in public policy, so nothing would shock him.

"The point of the lockdown is supposed to be to save the hospitals from being overrun, to save us all from some sort of massive societal collapse. That didn’t happen," he said. "So what on earth would we be doing it for going forward?"

Not surprisingly, there also is a censorship angle to Berenson's message. Amazon initially told Berenson his first booklet didn't meet the company's "guidelines." But the digital retail giant backed down after SpaceX CEO Elon Musk and other prominent journalists spoke up for Berenson.


Study: Lockdowns had no effect on death rates!
 

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Here in Melbourne they have put us on level 4 lockdowns for the next 6 weeks and mandated masks.
It seems like everyone has Stockholm syndrome as everyone gives up their rights and liberties without a question.

I don't think anything can stop what's coming and i see two possible outcomes...
1/ Most people submit to the vaccine and microchip while the minority live off the grid, on the run.
2/ Enough people refuse and they create their own unvaxxed society
 

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Study: Lockdowns had no effect on death rates!

Well, let's take a look. Germany had a national lockdown:

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Germany lockdown: When did Germany go on lockdown? Why is Germany death rate so low?
GERMANY is expected to slowly start lifting lockdown measures next week, with small shops allowed to reopen from Monday. When did Germany go on lockdown and why is Germany's death rate so low?
Germany lockdown: When did Germany go on lockdown? Why is Germany death rate so low?

United States didn't:

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I think fewer deaths is a better result. Don't you?
 

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Here are some countries that didn't lockdown yet have a low death rate...
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Lockdowns are causing more harm than covid. The people pushing for these lockdowns are still working and remain unaffected by them
 

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Here's why it worked for S. Korea, and why Trump blew his chance to make that happen here:

One of the hallmarks of South Korea’s success was that authorities reacted remarkably quickly to reports of the spread of coronavirus in nearby China.

Just one week after the country reported its first case on January 20, the government ordered factories to start producing coronavirus test kits en masse. Within two weeks, the country was producing more than 100,000 test kits a day.


“We were very nervous. We believed that it could develop into a pandemic,” Lee Sang-won, an infectious diseases expert at the Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC), told Reuters.

“We acted like an army,” he said.

Fortunately, the KCDC had run a test scenario in December, just before the outbreak, which ensured it was relatively well prepared when coronavirus struck.


By contrast, the US – which detected its first case on the same day as South Korea – failed to react quickly. Although President Donald Trump has now enacted emergency powers which could force companies to manufacture medical goods, the country faces big shortages of testing kits – and had only tested 60,000 out of its around 350 million population as of mid-March.
South Korea conquered coronavirus without a lockdown: a model to follow?

And Trump disbanded the pandemic team just before it was needed. And he failed to get adequate testing underway. And he kept denying there was any reason to worry, calling concerns about the pandemic "a hoax."

So the opportunity passed, and tens of thousands of Americans needlessly died.

 

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@Enoch111 if we look at the case numbers today, we can look back and say lockdowns did keep the numbers down by heaps, the comparison is at least 24x more cases in the past 24 hours without lockdown in Australia compared to with lockdowns during

5th of January, 2022 (No lockdown) - 64,774 new cases in 24 hours

14th of October, 2021 (Lockdown in NSW, VIC and the day lockdown ended in ACT) - 2,752 new cases in 24 hours (which is the highest number I found with multiple state lockdowns)

5th of August, 2020 (Lockdown in Greater Melbourne during the 2nd wave) 739 new cases in 24 hours in the whole of Australia

So there has been a massive difference between lockdown and no lockdown here in Australia with the case numbers.
 

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There was absolutely no need for lock downs!
OP


Propaganda 24-7;
Teach the world to sing be in FEAR of DEATH.
The FEAR...invisible.
Can’t, see, hear, touch, smell, taste.
The pseudo FIX...

* Human experiment...diapers on mouth and nose.
* Human experiment...silence
* Human experiment...separate
* Human experiment...pitting
* Human experiment...prohibit travel
* Human experiment...lock down
* Human experiment...lock up
* Human experiment...threats with weapons
* Human experiment...silence God
* Human experiment...push FREE drugs
* Human experiment...push more, more, more FREE drugs
* Human experiment...assessment

Observation...Counting....Tally up...Deaths? Irrelevant ~
Observation...Counting....Tally up...
Number of Humans willing to acquiesce their...
God given LIBERTY, TO the DICTATION of a handful of colluding Wicked men.

Wicked men sit in seats of Power, Desiring to Be the People’s MASTER.
The Human Experiment, is the PLANdemic!


 

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Note: A study has been done to see if lock downs actually reduced death rates. The result was "No effect whatsoever". The full article is quoted from World News Daily, (WND) with my sub-headings in blue. It should be clear after reading this that lock downs were a political ploy to shut down economies, and that the Wuhan virus was politicized from day one.

WND
Study: Lockdowns had no effect on death rates!
Policies 'appear to be substantial long-run government failures'
By
Art Moore

BIG TIME GOVERNMENT FAILURE
In a country-by-country comparison, a Danish professor has concluded the evidence shows the spring 2020 lockdowns in response to the coronavirus pandemic had no effect on death rates.

PROPER SCIENTIFIC STUDIES WERE CONDUCTED
Further, wrote Professor Christian Bjørnskov of Aarhus University, the unprecedented shutdown policies "appear to be substantial long-run government failures." His paper, "Did Lockdown Work? An Economist's Cross-Country Comparison," sought to "explore the association between the severity of lockdown policies in the first half of 2020 and mortality rates." The professor of economics used two indices from the University of Oxford's school of government as COVID-19 policy measures and compared weekly mortality rates from 24 European countries in the first halves of 2017-2020. "I find no clear association between lockdown policies and mortality development," he wrote. His paper reviewed two other studies that reached the same conclusion.

LOCKDOWNS PRODUCED A MAJOR RECESSION
"The lockdowns in most Western countries have thrown the world into the most severe recession since World War II and the most rapidly developing recession ever seen in mature market economies," Bjørnskov wrote. "They have also caused an erosion of fundamental rights and the separation of powers in large part of the world as both democratic and autocratic regimes have misused their emergency powers and ignored constitutional limits to policy-making."

SCHOLARLY METHODOLOGY COMPARED 24 COUNTRIES
He reasoned then that it's "important to evaluate whether and to which extent the lockdowns have worked as officially intended: to suppress the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus and prevent deaths associated with it." In his comparison of 24 countries, he found the lockdowns did not work as intended, finding no association with lower mortality. The paper was published by The SSRN, formerly known as Social Science Research Network, which describes itself as "a repository for preprints and international journal devoted to the rapid dissemination of scholarly research in the social sciences and humanities and more."

LONG RUN GOVERNMENT FAILURES
'Long-run government failures'
Bjørnskov noted much has been made of Sweden's decision not to impose a full-scale lockdown. He pointed out that Sweden's mortality rates are 14% higher than in the preceding three years. That is slightly more than France but considerably lower than Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom, which all implemented much stricter policies. "The problem at hand is therefore that evidence from Sweden as well as the evidence presented here does not suggest that lockdowns have significantly affected the development of mortality in Europe," he said.


DEATHS WERE ACTUALLY HIGHER IN LOCK DOWNS
"It has nevertheless wreaked economic havoc in most societies and may lead to a substantial number of additional deaths for other reasons," wrote Bjørnskov. He cited a British government report from April predicting a limited lockdown could cause 185,000 excess deaths over the next years." Evaluated as a whole, at a first glance, the lockdown policies of the Spring of 2020 therefore appear to be substantial long-run government failures," the professor concluded.

RATIONALITY WAS ABANDONED
'Rationality has played only a small part' in public policy. A case against the coronavirus lockdowns also has been made by former New York Times reporter Alex Berenson in two self-published booklets available on Amazon.com. His latest is "Unreported Truths about COVID-19 and Lockdowns: Part 2: Update and Examination of Lockdowns as a Strategy." Berenson said in an interview with Fox News that it's important to get different perspectives at a time when 90% of media "is saying the same thing, with very little pushback or smart questioning." The lockdowns in the spring of 2020 "really came out of nowhere," he said.

LOCK DOWNS WERE PREVIOUSLY REJECTED
"When you look at the history of lockdowns, they were rejected over and over again as a tool when we were considering what to do about flu epidemics, including flu epidemics that would have been much worse than what the coronavirus epidemic is," Berenson said. "I'm talking about something up to the Spanish Flu, or possibly even worse than that. The health authorities and the scientists who considered this said, 'No lockdowns. Lockdowns don’t work.'" Previous data indicate lockdowns don't work once the epidemic stage is reached, he said. but government leaders did it anyway as they struggled to understand COVID-19. "We threw out a lot of work that we had done in a matter of days," Berenson said. "It is completely unprecedented. Wherever you stand on lockdowns, you should understand how unprecedented this is."

He said he would be surprised if there were additional lockdowns going forward, in part because "there is an understanding now of how destructive" they were to both society and the economy. "In Arizona, Texas and Florida, the worst of it is behind us in terms of the number of people hospitalized," Berenson said.

"The death counts will still continue to rise, but they accomplished that without a major lockdown. So, I think, rationally, governors who look at that and distance themselves from the media hysteria, will say, look in Houston ... Phoenix, Miami, without lockdowns those hospitals continued to function." Berenson said "rationality has played only a small part" in public policy, so nothing would shock him.

"The point of the lockdown is supposed to be to save the hospitals from being overrun, to save us all from some sort of massive societal collapse. That didn’t happen," he said. "So what on earth would we be doing it for going forward?"

Not surprisingly, there also is a censorship angle to Berenson's message. Amazon initially told Berenson his first booklet didn't meet the company's "guidelines." But the digital retail giant backed down after SpaceX CEO Elon Musk and other prominent journalists spoke up for Berenson.


Study: Lockdowns had no effect on death rates!

There was absolutely no need for lock downs!

Yes there was, in order to bring in the new world order