Times Jesus contradicted/"override" the Old Testament

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Let's make our own list.
I'll start.
High Priest Jesus married a woman defiled by prostitution.

Leviticus 21:13-15
"13The woman he (the High Priest) marries must be a virgin. 14He is not to marry a widow, a divorced woman, or one defiled by prostitution. He is to marry a virgin from his own people, 15so that he does not defile his offspring among his people"
 

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Satan loves to plant seeds of doubt!! Who wants to help satan??
What we are to do is ask ourselves how/why Jesus is able to override or contradict the law and still claim to have come to fulfill the law, not destroy it (Matthew 5:17-18).

What this exercise will do is show the superiority of Jesus and his ministry over that of the Levites and their ministry. If a law stood opposed to you under the old covenant there wasn't much you could do about it. But under Christ's ministry in this new covenant he has a way to save you from the condemnation of the law and how it stood opposed to you. Mainly by changing us from the disabled, damaged, and unclean people we are, and to whom the law stands opposed, into clean and whole people the law does not oppose.

In my example, us widowed, divorced, and unfaithful unclean people can be married to High Priest Jesus, even though that is forbidden by law, because through him we are no longer the widowed, divorced, and unfaithful unclean people we used to be. We have been transformed and made eligible for marriage to the High Priest that the law prohibited and kept us from.
 
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This will take 2 post... PART 1

The Law of God as found in the pages of the Old Testament was intended for Adam, then Noah, then Abraham and finally for the nation of Israel at the time of the Exodus. Its application lasted until the death of Christ on the tree of crucifixion. That Law was holy, just, and good (Romans 7:12). But the apostle Paul said that the Law in the Old Testament was intended by God for people who were spiritual infants, mere children in the faith. It was not to be used for determining righteousness once Christ Jesus died for the sins of the world.

Christ introduced a new concept of religious practice which Paul called “the Law of Christ” (Galatians 6:2). This new Law of Christ is not an outwardly written law to be read on tables of stone, but is written upon the hearts of Christians and manifested by their observance of the nine fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22–23). This was the Law for Christians that Paul established in his letters to the Romans, Corinthians, and Galatians. It replaced the written Law of the Old Testament — with the Ten Commandments and subsidiary Laws given to Israel.

Can the Old Law Be Changed?
Some people feel the Law can never be changed, even to the crossing of a “t” or the dotting of an “i.” Those who believe this will be shocked at what the Bible says. The Law of God can be changed and parts abolished if God so desires. This is Progressive Revelation in action.

To show that the Law of God can be changed, or even abolished, it is necessary to see how historically the Law of God started, developed, and finally became the Old Covenant. We need to see how the Law was changed and altered from time to time from Adam to Noah. It later changed:

· from Noah to Abraham, again


· from Abraham to Moses, and


· from Moses to Samuel, then


· from Samuel to Ezekiel the prophet, and


· from Ezekiel to John the Baptist, and finally


· to Christ before His crucifixion.

The former Law of God changed quite often, with additions and/or deletions, throughout the various periods associated with the men just mentioned.

Some people, however, have the mistaken notion that the Law of God can never change in any way. That belief is sheer nonsense and has not the slightest validity in the biblical revelation. Why, God can change and alter His Law any time He pleases. He can change whole sections, or He can revise small and minor points. God is not restricted in matters dealing with His Law and assumes all authority to add to, or eliminate precepts from His Law at any time.

The Law of God in the Old Testament was a very flexible piece of legislation that changed dramatically when God saw the need for such alterations. The Law of God is not the universally consistent piece of legislation (with an eternal permanence associated with it) that a few “law-keeping” Christians have erroneously taught. The Law of God changed dramatically, and often, from Adam to Christ.

The Law of God Starts in Genesis
To understand this matter clearly, we need to be reminded that when the apostle Paul talked about the Law of God, he plainly stated that Christians were no longer “under the law.” He then gave an illustration from that Law, of Sarah and Hagar recorded in Genesis (Galatians 4:21–31). This reference of Paul to the Law was long before Moses established the Old Covenant at Mount Sinai. The Book of Genesis itself was reckoned by Jews and by biblical authorities as the first book of the Law. The Law of God, commands of God given to man, begins with the first chapters of Genesis, not with the twentieth chapter of the Book of Exodus where the Ten Commandments and subsidiary laws were given for the nation of Israel.

What is the very first Law of God found in Holy Scriptures? The first Law is found in Genesis 2:16–17, with both a positive and a negative command. It is,

“And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, ‘Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil [bad], you shall not eat of it: for in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die.’”

· Genesis 2:16–17

God also recorded a judgment upon man if he would ever disobey God’s command and eat of the forbidden tree. That was “For in the day that you eat thereof you shall surely die.” Paul said that mankind found that this Law (indeed, any Law of God) was impossible to keep or to save a person. Before long, Adam and Eve were eating of the forbidden fruit and the Law, meant to keep them alive, espoused death for them. Spiritually that “death” of Adam spread to embrace the whole human race (Romans 5:12–21). This doctrinal fact is a prime teaching of the apostle Paul.

In the period from Adam to Noah, there were a few other laws of God recorded in the Holy Scriptures. There were laws against

· murder (Genesis 4:15, 23; 9:6),

· immodesty (Genesis 9:23),

· wrong marriages (Genesis 6:1–4), and

· wickedness in general (Genesis 6:5).

Jewish theologians put these early laws into one package, with a few other laws and called them the “Laws of Noah.” These laws, mentioned especially around the time of Noah, were the only ones that Jews in Christ’s time (and even today) felt that all Gentile nations were specifically required to observe for a right relationship with God. In the time of Noah, no other laws were mentioned in the Scriptures as necessary to be kept. For example, the Sabbath was not a requirement during the first 2,500 years of man’s existence. There was no command in Genesis 2 that said that humans were required to observe the Sabbath day as God did on the seventh day of creation. 1

From the records found in the Bible, there were very few requirements in the worship of God until the time of Abraham, and even then it was only when Abraham was given the circumcision covenant at 99 years of age that real physical ritual became a necessity. However, the selection of Abraham and his family as a special group demanded that distinct laws regulate their lives before God.

Thus Abraham and his family (along with his later descendants) came into a unique relationship with the creator. No longer could Abraham or his seed act like their neighbors around them. They were set apart and sanctified as special people in the eyes of God. This meant that the simple laws revealed before the time of Abraham which allowed mankind to be in a proper relationship with God were no longer sufficient to please God as far as Abraham and his family were concerned. This is a clear example of God changing His mind about His Laws. The Law of God began to take on new proportions with extra and different commands and laws from the time of Abraham to Moses. The differences are very great.

With the introduction of the covenant of circumcision between God and man (specifically with Abraham and his seed), religious requirements became more ritualistic and distinctive. Later, when Moses was commissioned by God to give the Israelites His Old Covenant revelation, elaborate ceremonialism became even more pronounced with a vast amount of new laws coming into existence.

Let us look at the dissimilarities and see how God altered His laws many times. So, when you ask about the need to keep God’s Law, you first must determine what period of Law (and what laws) you mean. In no way are “laws of God” eternal or for application at all periods of time or for all people. One must be careful and not make such erroneous evaluations. Note some major differences.

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The Vast Differences between the Patriarchal and Mosaic Legal Systems
· Under the Abrahamic covenant, God allowed his people to offer sacrifices anywhere they pleased (Genesis 12:7, 35:1; Job 1:5). Moses changed this law by commanding only the family of Aaron to attend to the sacred rites (Exodus 40:1–16) and those sacrifices could only be offered on the altar in the Sanctuary (Deuteronomy 12:13–14).


· Abraham planted a grove (or sacred tree) in Beersheba (Genesis 21:33), but under Moses the use of groves became prohibited (Exodus 34:14; 2 Chronicles 14:3; Isaiah 17:8).


· Jacob set up a pillar (Genesis 28:18), but this was later forbidden by Moses (Deuteronomy 16:22, margin).


· God said in the time of Noah: “Every moving thing [i.e., all animals] that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things” (Genesis 9:3), but with Moses only the beasts mentioned in Leviticus chapter 11 were allowed or disallowed.


· There were no official feast days commanded in the time of Abraham, but with Moses, ordained festivals became required periods for attendance by all Israelite males (Leviticus 23).


· There was no commanded Tithing at first. Tithing was not a law in the patriarchal period. 2


· None of the patriarchs wore phylacteries (at least we have no record of such), but with Moses their use was commanded (Numbers 15:37–41).


· The land did not have to rest every 7th year under the patriarchs (Genesis 41:34–35), but with Moses, the land rest was commanded (Leviticus 25:1–7).


· Abraham married his half-sister with God’s full approval (Genesis 20:12), but this became illegal in the time of Moses (Leviticus 20:17).


· Abraham was confederate with his Canaanite neighbors (Genesis 14:13), but no leagues with the Canaanites were allowed in the dispensation of Moses. Indeed, the Canaanites were to be exterminated (Deuteronomy 20:17–18).


· There was also no commanded Sabbath law in the patriarchal period. However, in the time of Moses the Sabbath was first introduced as a law for Israelites to obey (Exodus 20:8; Nehemiah 9:14; Ezekiel 20:12) with stringent requirements that changed the very character of the 7th day of the week. Moses had now emerged on the scene and a profound change in religious essentials had come into existence for Israel.

The differences between the religious system of the patriarchs and that of Moses were dramatic. If a religious Israelite after the time of Moses could have been transported back to Abraham’s time and witnessed Abraham (not knowing who he was) performing his religious duties, he would have called him an unconverted heathen. And though it is made clear in the Scriptures that God knew Abraham “obeyed my voice and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws” (Genesis 26:5), those laws (the Law of God in Abraham’s time) were very different from those later laws commanded to Moses and to the Israelites at Mount Sinai.

Indeed, for Abraham’s first 99 years of life he was not circumcised, later

· he built altars anywhere he pleased,

· he raised up groves,

· he offered no lamb at Passover,

· he kept no weekly Sabbath,

· he attended no holy feasts,

· he wore no phylacteries,

· he married his half-sister,

· kept no land sabbath [that is, no Sabbatical Years], and of all things

· he was allied with the Canaanites.

What God did in the time of Moses was to rescind the religious requirements of the Patriarchal period in favor of stricter laws ordained in the time of Moses. The two religious systems were so completely different that if one were to mix the teachings together, utter contradiction and confusion would result. There is no compatibility at all between the two systems.

However, some people today are so conservative in their views that they will not allow God to establish new religious systems different from previous ones. They cannot believe God would ever change ritualistic or ceremonial teachings that He once gave to His people. In no way is this true biblical teaching. Certainly God does not change His mind in overall philosophical matters that dominate His character and personality (Malachi 3:6), but He most decidedly changed His own religious systems in the past when He saw fit.

God uses the principle of Progressive Revelation throughout the Bible. God has introduced new and progressively more mature systems of worship adding and deleting them as He pleases. This is seen when we distinguish the essential differences between the Patriarchal System of religious requirements and the Mosaic System, two patterns of conduct dissimilar and utterly distinct.

The other prime example of such vast changes in God’s laws, commandments, and teachings is God’s change from the Mosaic System to the advanced Christian System which depends not on Mosaic Law, but on the merits of grace. Diversities between the Mosaic and the Christian Systems are so pronounced that the two cannot be compared in a systematic sense. There is as much difference between the teachings of Christianity and Moses as there is between the Mosaic and the Patriarchal Systems.

People should recognize this biblical teaching of Progressive Revelation and apply the newer teachings if they ever hope to understand what God now requires of them.
 

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There was no commanded Tithing at first. Tithing was not a law in the patriarchal period.
Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek
Gen 14:20 "And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all."

· God said in the time of Noah: “Every moving thing [i.e., all animals] that lives shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things” (Genesis 9:3), but with Moses only the beasts mentioned in Leviticus chapter 11 were allowed or disallowed.

Noah knew the difference between clean and unclean animals...
Gen 7:2"Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female."
I'm sure that pork wasn't clean, and then was, but then wasn't at the time of Moses. I bet the reason why Noah knew the difference is because God told him.
 
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What we are to do is ask ourselves how/why Jesus is able to override or contradict the law and still claim to have come to fulfill the law, not destroy it (Matthew 5:17-18).

What this exercise will do is show the superiority of Jesus and his ministry over that of the Levites and their ministry. If a law stood opposed to you under the old covenant there wasn't much you could do about it. But under Christ's ministry in this new covenant he has a way to save you from the condemnation of the law and how it stood opposed to you. Mainly by changing us from the disabled, damaged, and unclean people we are, and to whom the law stands opposed, into clean and whole people the law does not oppose.

In my example, us widowed, divorced, and unfaithful unclean people can be married to High Priest Jesus, even though that is forbidden by law, because through him we are no longer the widowed, divorced, and unfaithful unclean people we used to be. We have been transformed and made eligible for marriage to the High Priest that the law prohibited and kept us from.
Doubt is brought on by deception. Deception is brought about by misunderstandings of the word of God. Just ask Eve who misquoted the warning of the Lord.
 
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High Priest Jesus married a woman defiled by prostitution.

Leviticus 21:13-15
"13The woman he (the High Priest) marries must be a virgin. 14He is not to marry a widow, a divorced woman, or one defiled by prostitution. He is to marry a virgin from his own people, 15so that he does not defile his offspring among his people"
Here's why you are 100% wrong:

"For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ." - 2 Cor. 11:2

When Jesus said there are no contradictions in the scriptures(Jhn 10:35), that's exactly what He meant: 0. Jesus was a prophet and would not have contradicted anything that was already written in the OT. Contradicting even 1 passage would have made Him a false prophet.
 

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Here's why you are 100% wrong:

"For I am jealous for you with godly jealousy. For I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ." - 2 Cor. 11:2

When Jesus said there are no contradictions in the scriptures(Jhn 10:35), that's exactly what He meant: 0. Jesus was a prophet and would not have contradicted anything that was already written in the OT. Contradicting even 1 passage would have made Him a false prophet.
Which one of us is a chaste virgin that we should be qualified, lawfully, to be married to the High Priest?
So, what did God do to override that requirement of law without breaking or removing that requirement of law, @Desire Of All Nations ?
 

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They cannot believe God would ever change ritualistic or ceremonial teachings that He once gave to His people. In no way is this true biblical teaching. Certainly God does not change His mind in overall philosophical matters that dominate His character and personality (Malachi 3:6), but He most decidedly changed His own religious systems in the past when He saw fit.

God uses the principle of Progressive Revelation throughout the Bible. God has introduced new and progressively more mature systems of worship adding and deleting them as He pleases. This is seen when we distinguish the essential differences between the Patriarchal System of religious requirements and the Mosaic System, two patterns of conduct dissimilar and utterly distinct.

The other prime example of such vast changes in God’s laws, commandments, and teachings is God’s change from the Mosaic System to the advanced Christian System which depends not on Mosaic Law, but on the merits of grace. Diversities between the Mosaic and the Christian Systems are so pronounced that the two cannot be compared in a systematic sense. There is as much difference between the teachings of Christianity and Moses as there is between the Mosaic and the Patriarchal Systems.

People should recognize this biblical teaching of Progressive Revelation and apply the newer teachings if they ever hope to understand what God now requires of them.
The problem with this is Jesus made it very clear he did not come to tear down the law of Moses, but to fulfill it.

"17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17
What we have to do is learn how Jesus leaves the law of Moses intact while at the same time releasing us from some of it's literal requirements. The key is in the word 'fulfill'. When the requirements of a particular law are met you don't have to continue to seek to keep that law. As an example, you don't have to continue to keep the law of animal sacrifice for sin because that requirement of law has already been satisfactorily satisfied by the blood and body of Christ. So you don't have to keep a law in order to do what has already been done for you through Christ. And so the law of animal sacrifice is satisfied, not changed or broken.
 
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The problem with this is Jesus made it very clear he did not come to tear down the law of Moses, but to fulfill it.

"17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them." Matthew 5:17
What we have to do is learn how Jesus leaves the law of Moses intact while at the same time releasing us from some of it's literal requirements. The key is in the word 'fulfill'. When the requirements of a particular law are met you don't have to continue to seek to keep that law. As an example, you don't have to continue to keep the law of animal sacrifice for sin because that requirement of law has already been satisfactorily satisfied by the blood and body of Christ. So you don't have to keep a law in order to do what has already been done for you through Christ. And so the law of animal sacrifice is satisfied, not changed or broken.

Very few were given the power to change God’s laws in the Old Testament and then only under God’s instruction. Read the Beatitudes and you will see Jesus not just changing the law but magnifying it to the point it being impossible to keep.

Read how many times Jesus said… “You have heard” … “But I say to you” You have heard the law… Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; Now watch Jesus add to and magnify the law! 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

Jesus fulfilled the law on our behalf. The Mosaic religious requirements ended with the establishment of Christianity when the world went from having to obey written laws to unwritten laws engraved on the heart (unwritten laws of the Spirit that cannot be read or seen with the eyes). With the final and mature teachings of Christ, the Mosaic system — designed to be kept by spiritual infants — became antiquated and unnecessary. God had something better to give mankind and gave Christianity as His final teaching for the world.

The essential features we reckon today as the main teaching of Christianity taught by Peter, John, and Paul, were thoroughly absent from Christ’s message to the Jews when He was in the flesh. This evaluation may surprise some, but there is no doubt that this is true. Christ’s message in the flesh was a completion (and even a magnification) of the Mosaic Law, not the beginning of the new Christian system. True, Christ gave hints of the new teaching of Christianity soon to merge on earth, but He gave no systematic disclosures about it in the flesh.

This first “Gospel” (good news) preached by John the Baptist and by Christ, was a ministry of law, of the Old Covenant, without a Savior, without the Holy Spirit and meant only for Israel. But it was a message emphasizing the soon coming Kingdom of God, promised by the prophets to appear on earth at the end of the age (Isaiah 11:1–16). Almost all the teaching of John and the ministry of Christ in the flesh were about that Kingdom.

Though the main teaching of Christ during His earthly ministry was about this soon-coming Messianic Kingdom, He knew that it was not to be introduced until much later. The Christian system, which God had in mind was to be fundamentally different from the Old Covenant instruction involving the Kingdom promised solely to Israel. What Christ did with His preaching in the flesh was to show the utter futility of obtaining salvation under law (under any law). But His emphasis on law was to give a contrast to the only message that could bring for the real salvation that Israel (and even the world) was hoping for. If people want their salvation based on their observance of Law (any Law), then get ready for disaster, because no person on earth can keep the Law.

This is what the apostle Paul came to see with a clear vision. Anyone would admit that this is a correct judgment. So, Christ introduced another way to obtain salvation. It was not to be based on the observance of Law (any Law), but based on a trust in Christ and in His death on the tree of crucifixion. A new way of gaining salvation was inaugurated with the death, burial, and resurrection of the Christ, and culminated when the Christ was exalted to sit on the Father’s right hand on the day of His resurrection. Every statement made by Peter, John, or Paul about man’s salvation in Christ is based on the teaching of Christ’s death, burial, resurrection, and glorification, and this includes John 3:16–17, 12:32–33; Acts 2:36–39; and also Romans 10:9–13 that Protestants love to quote.

As a matter of fact, the apostle Paul in the totality of his Gospel message referred only one time to any teaching that Christ taught in the flesh. That was a reference to the bread and wine that symbolized Christ’s death on the eve of His crucifixion (1 Corinthians 11:23–24). Not once did Paul use as a basis for his Gospel any other statement or commandment that Christ made or presented to the Jews while in the flesh. Paul made a point that when Christ taught the Jews within the Old Covenant relationship (before His death, burial, resurrection, and glorification), this former message about “commandment keeping” as the only means to salvation had no bearing on the Christian Gospel that Paul taught. Paul stated dogmatically:

“Wherefore henceforth [with Christ’s death and resurrection] know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.” 2 Corinthians 5:16

This is very different from what we see in so-called “Law-keeping and Commandment-keeping Churches” today who base their essential doctrinal positions on statements and commandments made by Christ while teaching the Jews in an Old Covenant relationship with God. Paul would have none of this. Paul commenced the teaching of “his Gospel” (Romans 2:16; 2 Timothy 2:8) with the death, burial, resurrection, and glorification of Christ. All the teachings Christ gave to the Jews during His earthly ministry within the Old Covenant framework were of no importance to Paul (in matters relating to salvation). Paul did not refer to any of Christ’s teachings (other than the bread and wine) given by Christ while in the flesh. “Though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more” (2 Corinthians 5:16).

Those first teachings of Christ while He was in the flesh were given only to the children of Israel and Judah. (See Matthew 10:5-6). And though Jews were offered salvation if they kept the commandments, since no one could keep the commandments to be saved, no one was ever saved under that Old Covenant message given by Christ while in the flesh. And Christ offered no Gentiles any salvation whatever before the crucifixion of Christ. But something better was coming. It was a system of salvation to be given by faith (through grace) and not through law. The Gentiles were finally soon to be offered salvation (along with Israel).
 

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Read how many times Jesus said… “You have heard” … “But I say to you” You have heard the law… Mat 5:27 "You have heard that it was said, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY'; Now watch Jesus add to and magnify the law! 28 but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.
No change of law here.

"You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife" Exodus 20:17
 

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No change of law here.

"You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife" Exodus 20:17

Exo 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery.

Change of Law given by the Son of God... Neighbors wife does not include all types of adultery

Mat 5:21 "You have heard that it was said to an older generation, 'Do not murder,' and 'whoever murders will be subjected to judgment.'
22 But I say to you that anyone who is angry with a brother will be subjected to judgment. And whoever insults a brother will be brought before the council, and whoever says 'Fool' will be sent to fiery hell.


Sure is different than Murder! Must have been a CHANGE!

Mat 5:31
"It was said, 'Whoever divorces his wife must give her a legal document.' 32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Sure looks like a change to me?

Mat 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor' and 'hate your enemy.' 44 But I say to you, love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you,

Sure looks like a change to me?

Paul