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Trump has achieved what? A partial build of the wall with Mexico, renegotiated trade deals with Mexico and Canada, talked to North Korea, threatened his friends as if they are enemies, failed to face up to Russia, failed to sort out foriegn policy, pulled out of climate change negotiations, let the economy grow like it was under Obama, not deal with Covid-19, down play the serious nature of the pandemic.

All the great advisers he brought in, he fired almost straight away. He has barely any friends or allies left. He is completely out of his depth, and does not know what a president really is. He is literally a joke to the rest of the world, and the more you see the truth of all the incidents that have happened over the past 4 years, the more you realise it is just a joke with a money making spin......which will probably come to haunt him for the rest of his life.

1st few days in office, the crowd who came out for his inaugeration. It was smaller than some, so what. But for him it had to be the biggest in history, ever. Lying did not matter, but saying he was not the greatest was so so so bad, fake news. This is meglomania, which is not a good look for any country or even any human being. Polarising personality cults are not what democracies are about, dictatorships run it all the time. And the greatest cult of personality turns the leader into a god. And this god defines truth.

So by supporting Donald, one is supporting this step towards idolatry.
But maybe the truth is some of the USA have started to worship the USA and feel it is an insult the the USA is not great, whatever that means.
The crazy thing is the USA has become a super power, and ruled the world and kept peace for over 100 years. This may change in the future or it might continue, but it relies on people believing and following freedom. But maybe this in itself has been self propoganda, a belief in the ability to go from poverty to great success in a lifetime, which may now be dying because of the modern technological world and the propoganda of the internet. Funnily Trump was born into wealth, and lived wealthily and will die wealthy. Not exactly an American story, rather a celebrity story of how to look good, fund your self and become president while lying about everything. The new american great ethical story........

If we were to put your answer to me to fact-check? You would get 5 Pinocchio's!

1. Trump has placed more and bigger sanctions on Russia than the last 3 presidents combined!
2. 380 miles of tough to pass wall is no small thing seeing how he had to fight the left fighting him in court many times!
3. The Paris accords were punishing to America while letting China, India and3rd world countires pollute like crazy!
4. The economy grew far faster under Trump than Obama, and employment reached near record levels!
5. He dealt with Covid faster than the media reports! Also POTUS cannot mandate masks, shutdowns and other things- that is constitutionally left up to the states!
6. Those threats you say against friends? Those were trade deals that so heavily favored the foreign allies . Many were made after WW 2 to help those countries rebuild. Well they are rebuilt, so it is time to get new deals much much fairer to our nation!
7. His firings ? Just a little higher than many POTUS have done. He brought some in to do a job, and once accomplished brought in someone else. That is a business mind set that many ceo's do.
8. OUt of His depth? Well you are entitled to your opinion. But I bet you cannot produce an empirical manual that shows what a president should to be in their depth!
9. A Potus is the CEO of America! He executes what the legislative branch enacts!
10 No friends? He still gets thousands at his rallies to Bidens dozens.
11. List five national leaders or political bodies that have called Trump a joke. I know Pelosi and Shumer have but that isa joke trying to call someone else a joke!
12. Meglomania? Really???? 33% of all blacks thought Obama was the Messiah! Children were singing songs to Obama like German children did for HItler! So don't project. Yes Trump has a huge ego, is crude, rude and very politically incorrect! But he campaigned on things and he has been accomplishing them!
13. He has appointed originalist judges! Judges who will rule on the law not legislate as is the habit of judges appointed by Dems!
14. Personality cult? Maybe with some. But that is true of all candidates who have run. I don't know of any believers who worship the man or think he can do no wrong! Thoug I am sure there are some out there.

But by voting for Trump? this is what I am voting for, that the left has either explicitly or implicitly said they oppose.

1. Continued religious freedoms.
2. Hopefully bringing the slaughter of over 55,000,000 unborn to a trickle.
3. Seeing the economy go full speed ahead once this pandemic abates. BTW Trump ramped up production of PPE, respirators, treatment therapies and vaccines at record speed! Also if Trump is negligent- what about all the European leaders? Europe has a worse resurgence than we do!
4. Finish the Wall and bring in immigrants who will not be a drag on our benefit programs.
5. Continue to allow the reasonable amount of refugees we have always allowed.
6. REduce the tax burden on average citizens. Remember this Trump reduced the Salt deductions that caused the rich to pay far more in taxes than ever before ! The top 53% wage earners pay 100% of all federal income taxes. The bottom 20%? Get back more than they paid in!
7. REduce taxes! Prior to the pandemic Americans paid $7,000,000,000,000( that is trillion) in taxes at all levels. WE need less govt. not more!
8. Stay out of the Paris accords! Biden will not get his 500,000 charging stations in four years or ten years! People cannot afford electric cars! Nor can they spend the time needed to recharge a car on a highway! Check out how the solar cycles and the Solar minimum we have been in have far more effect on climate than man made gases!

I don't worship Trump, but I am grateful he has done much to benefit America! Personally- I would demand Europe pay even more for its defense. We spend more than any nation, have more manpower and weapons than any nation and we have to pay for the bases we need to house them?

Hey! If we are to shed our blood should another European war break out- the least Europe can do is to pay for their defense!

Trump ended our involvement in Afghanistan, reduced our presence in Iraq. REbuilt our badly depleted military. I want a POTUS who cares abou tthis nation First and Foremost! If they ruffle feathers of people? Too bad for them!
 

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If we were to put your answer to me to fact-check? You would get 5 Pinocchio's!

1. Trump has placed more and bigger sanctions on Russia than the last 3 presidents combined!
2. 380 miles of tough to pass wall is no small thing seeing how he had to fight the left fighting him in court many times!
3. The Paris accords were punishing to America while letting China, India and3rd world countires pollute like crazy!
4. The economy grew far faster under Trump than Obama, and employment reached near record levels!
5. He dealt with Covid faster than the media reports! Also POTUS cannot mandate masks, shutdowns and other things- that is constitutionally left up to the states!
6. Those threats you say against friends? Those were trade deals that so heavily favored the foreign allies . Many were made after WW 2 to help those countries rebuild. Well they are rebuilt, so it is time to get new deals much much fairer to our nation!
7. His firings ? Just a little higher than many POTUS have done. He brought some in to do a job, and once accomplished brought in someone else. That is a business mind set that many ceo's do.
8. OUt of His depth? Well you are entitled to your opinion. But I bet you cannot produce an empirical manual that shows what a president should to be in their depth!
9. A Potus is the CEO of America! He executes what the legislative branch enacts!
10 No friends? He still gets thousands at his rallies to Bidens dozens.
11. List five national leaders or political bodies that have called Trump a joke. I know Pelosi and Shumer have but that isa joke trying to call someone else a joke!
12. Meglomania? Really???? 33% of all blacks thought Obama was the Messiah! Children were singing songs to Obama like German children did for HItler! So don't project. Yes Trump has a huge ego, is crude, rude and very politically incorrect! But he campaigned on things and he has been accomplishing them!
13. He has appointed originalist judges! Judges who will rule on the law not legislate as is the habit of judges appointed by Dems!
14. Personality cult? Maybe with some. But that is true of all candidates who have run. I don't know of any believers who worship the man or think he can do no wrong! Thoug I am sure there are some out there.

But by voting for Trump? this is what I am voting for, that the left has either explicitly or implicitly said they oppose.

1. Continued religious freedoms.
2. Hopefully bringing the slaughter of over 55,000,000 unborn to a trickle.
3. Seeing the economy go full speed ahead once this pandemic abates. BTW Trump ramped up production of PPE, respirators, treatment therapies and vaccines at record speed! Also if Trump is negligent- what about all the European leaders? Europe has a worse resurgence than we do!
4. Finish the Wall and bring in immigrants who will not be a drag on our benefit programs.
5. Continue to allow the reasonable amount of refugees we have always allowed.
6. REduce the tax burden on average citizens. Remember this Trump reduced the Salt deductions that caused the rich to pay far more in taxes than ever before ! The top 53% wage earners pay 100% of all federal income taxes. The bottom 20%? Get back more than they paid in!
7. REduce taxes! Prior to the pandemic Americans paid $7,000,000,000,000( that is trillion) in taxes at all levels. WE need less govt. not more!
8. Stay out of the Paris accords! Biden will not get his 500,000 charging stations in four years or ten years! People cannot afford electric cars! Nor can they spend the time needed to recharge a car on a highway! Check out how the solar cycles and the Solar minimum we have been in have far more effect on climate than man made gases!

I don't worship Trump, but I am grateful he has done much to benefit America! Personally- I would demand Europe pay even more for its defense. We spend more than any nation, have more manpower and weapons than any nation and we have to pay for the bases we need to house them?

Hey! If we are to shed our blood should another European war break out- the least Europe can do is to pay for their defense!

Trump ended our involvement in Afghanistan, reduced our presence in Iraq. REbuilt our badly depleted military. I want a POTUS who cares abou tthis nation First and Foremost! If they ruffle feathers of people? Too bad for them!
Funny thing is for a celebrity and all the great success, it does not seem to have worked. A wall will not solve immigration and drug abuse. Sanctions on Russia while not supporting the NSA and CIA does not look good. Not condemning white supremacy groups looks weak. The Paris accord is politics, like pulling out is just stupid. We need action, walking away declares not fit for office.
Thinking coal and steel matter is short sighted and politicing for no gain. These are dead industries. Bio, pharma, ev, technological aids are our future. Bigger better guns are not going to work. Ai, adaptive systems are. China is starting to take a lead. When they stride ahead, what then?
 

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I am not even concerned with what crooked schemes the dems try to come up with for the election....as you said our Father will determine who is president and I know it will be Trump and we will have the results the night of the election. The dems may try to contest it but to no avail.
The Holy Spirit told me that all things that are hidden in darkness will be brought to light through Trump's presidency...which is what God intended to happen. To expose the corruption and the depth of it to the people and that puts it on us to pray and stand up for the injustices and money schemes done at the taxpayers expense. And what the enemy meant for evil God will turn to good....and every attempt the dems make to remove Trump will become a curse to them and what they do to him will come back on them instead. As it is already doing.

Edit....I didn't mean to say stand up for the injustices but rather stand up and rally against them through faith and prayer...lol. Sorry!

"The Holy Spirit showed me" is a prophecy of certainty. If Biden wins what then?

Corruption? There are so many checks and balances it is hard to get away with too much. Unfortunately believers often project horrendous things onto individuals. So it is affairs, using money or funding inappropriately. Trump paid off Stormy Daniels to avoid a scandle. His lawyer went to prison over this.

Leaders come and go. The people get the leaders they deserve. Leaders are a reflection of the culture and how far you can push it. It's not the leaders that matter, rather the state of the hearts of the people.

God bless you
 

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"The Holy Spirit showed me" is a prophecy of certainty. If Biden wins what then?

Corruption? There are so many checks and balances it is hard to get away with too much. Unfortunately believers often project horrendous things onto individuals. So it is affairs, using money or funding inappropriately. Trump paid off Stormy Daniels to avoid a scandle. His lawyer went to prison over this.

Leaders come and go. The people get the leaders they deserve. Leaders are a reflection of the culture and how far you can push it. It's not the leaders that matter, rather the state of the hearts of the people.

God bless you

I'm sure if Joe Biden wins the election that the Christians who said "the Holy Spirit showed me" will backtrack their proclamation about Trump in a hurry. I wonder if there will be a great exodus from Trumpism if Biden wins the election. Anyway, I wanted to tell you that I enjoy reading your posts, FollowHim. And I wanted to share these articles with you because we seem to share the same opinions about Trump and his supporters.

You Can’t Follow Jesus and Donald Trump

Trump v. Jesus: Christians can’t follow both

Minister: Trump and his supporters don't speak for Jesus
 
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"The Holy Spirit showed me" is a prophecy of certainty. If Biden wins what then?

Corruption? There are so many checks and balances it is hard to get away with too much. Unfortunately believers often project horrendous things onto individuals. So it is affairs, using money or funding inappropriately. Trump paid off Stormy Daniels to avoid a scandle. His lawyer went to prison over this.

Leaders come and go. The people get the leaders they deserve. Leaders are a reflection of the culture and how far you can push it. It's not the leaders that matter, rather the state of the hearts of the people.

God bless you

And here are some more articles for you to read.

For Trump’s Evangelicals, the Inconvenient Teachings of Christ

We are evangelical Christians not voting for Donald Trump this time

Comparing Trump to Jesus, and why some evangelicals believe Trump is God’s chosen one

Where Christian evangelicals worship Trump more than Jesus – key voters stay loyal to president
 

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I cannot be so sure. I am more and more becoming convinced that we are in the midst of divine judgment. I am more convinced that gods patience with America as a nation has reached its limit! If that is true, then God would insure a man like Biden would take the seat of the presidency so He may continue to pour judgment out on this nation!

Unlimited pornagraphy, promiscuity celebrated, homosexuality normalized, 55 million children killed, reckless spending drugs and alcoholism are pandemic, materialism greed, ungodliness in the streets?

REcord fires
record major storms,
record droughts
record debt
the pandemic affecting the world and the US #1 in the world for cases and victims.
depression level unemployment and poverty

Pretty hard to see how this is not our loving Father having had enough of a nation that has revieved more light of the gospel than any other nation in the world in history!
Just imagine the load of sin when you include the sins of all the world!

So much sin!

But so much love!
 

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Funny thing is for a celebrity and all the great success, it does not seem to have worked. A wall will not solve immigration and drug abuse. Sanctions on Russia while not supporting the NSA and CIA does not look good. Not condemning white supremacy groups looks weak. The Paris accord is politics, like pulling out is just stupid. We need action, walking away declares not fit for office.
Thinking coal and steel matter is short sighted and politicing for no gain. These are dead industries. Bio, pharma, ev, technological aids are our future. Bigger better guns are not going to work. Ai, adaptive systems are. China is starting to take a lead. When they stride ahead, what then?

1.The Wall has slowed ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ot a trickle in the areas where the wall has been built. Drug abuse is a personal issue, not a border issue. It is a sign of a nation in great decline!
2. How many times does Trump have to say teh words "I condemn" before the left will shut up about this lie?
3. YOur comment on the Paris accord is just opinion. YOu are entitled to it, but it doesn't make it fact. I am sorry but if I were POTUS, any accord that would cripple us and allow our enemies free passes, I would pull out of as well. Besides under Trump, we are the only industialized nation that has an empirically proven net reduction in our carbon footprint- without a Paris Accord!
4. We have 3 centuries of coal reserves and clean coal technology that reduces the harmful emissions by over 70%
5. Steel will be around for centuries more!
6. If bigger better guns will not work, why are China and Russia rushing like crazy to build aircraft carriers and make 5th generation fighters and make bigger battle tanks?????
7. Yes AI and systems are needed. We are well placed i nthose fields. The military is much more advanced than we are led to believe.
8. Chinas lead will fall. We have tightened the rules so they canot steal our technology and companies no longer have to yield all their proprietary secrets to do business in China! China is only good at reverse engineering, not coming up with original stuff!
9. we are the nation of pharma. We hold the most patents and the most discoveries in pharma.

You wish to dislike Trump- you are free to do so and support and vote for Biden or anyone else. But sorry, to do so because of gross lies is untenable .
 

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Just imagine the load of sin when you include the sins of all the world!

So much sin!

But so much love!

Yes all teh sin.

That is one of the reasons why God will unleash the seal, trumpet and bowl judgments at the end of days!
 

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1.The Wall has slowed ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION ot a trickle in the areas where the wall has been built. Drug abuse is a personal issue, not a border issue. It is a sign of a nation in great decline!
2. How many times does Trump have to say teh words "I condemn" before the left will shut up about this lie?
3. YOur comment on the Paris accord is just opinion. YOu are entitled to it, but it doesn't make it fact. I am sorry but if I were POTUS, any accord that would cripple us and allow our enemies free passes, I would pull out of as well. Besides under Trump, we are the only industialized nation that has an empirically proven net reduction in our carbon footprint- without a Paris Accord!
4. We have 3 centuries of coal reserves and clean coal technology that reduces the harmful emissions by over 70%
5. Steel will be around for centuries more!
6. If bigger better guns will not work, why are China and Russia rushing like crazy to build aircraft carriers and make 5th generation fighters and make bigger battle tanks?????
7. Yes AI and systems are needed. We are well placed i nthose fields. The military is much more advanced than we are led to believe.
8. Chinas lead will fall. We have tightened the rules so they canot steal our technology and companies no longer have to yield all their proprietary secrets to do business in China! China is only good at reverse engineering, not coming up with original stuff!
9. we are the nation of pharma. We hold the most patents and the most discoveries in pharma.

You wish to dislike Trump- you are free to do so and support and vote for Biden or anyone else. But sorry, to do so because of gross lies is untenable .

There used to be an idea a politician stood by his morals, sincerity and ability to be trusted. The main issue with Trump is he has failed on all levels and lies about it all the time. Most politicians would have just given up and gone away. I do not think there is going to be a library in honour of Trump and his wise words, or rather his wise tweets. Covid-19 has sunk Trump, 100%, because the choice between lives or business, he chooses business. Now I can see this, there is a line, but you have to respect Covid-19 as a deadly foe, not play games with it as if it means nothing when 200,000+ people have died. It is what leaders are for, to fight the fight against real enemies, and bring hope.

The trouble with politics, a crisis occurs, a strange politician appears, sorts it, and then the next style is need to get on to the next task.
In the UK it was Thatcher and the unions, which ushered in financial services big time. The Blair and the welfare state, now its Boris and Brexit.
People imagine its politics and the force of argument, but really its need and the best solution that enough agree on. The next massive challenge is China and the new Mao leader who looks like they want to conquer the world. Industry back to the US might become a reality, with this fall out.

Hatred is a strong word, but communist China has never loved the west, but they will use it to become powerful enough to strike back.

Thinking of prophecy, where are the prophets regarding the WW3.
A country building a navy bigger than the US, missiles enough to sink whole fleets, is not a friendly, passive force who thinks business and trade wins the world.
 

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By supporting President Trump, I'm supporting Free Market, State Autonomy, Deregulation, Lower Taxation, Foreign Policy built on supporting Amercan intrests rather than giving America away.

So no, this isn't supporting idolatry, not to me.

Are you REALLY telling me I'm turning Pres. Trump into a god???

Much love!

After listening to Trump and seeing how he reacts to ego knocks, and at rallies how he loves being loved, I realised this is just a personality cult, where he plays to the audience to get attention. For him everything is a TV show, its how it looks that he really cares about. So someone is a friend today and an enemy tomorrow. There is a big difference between what someone can appear to represent and what they actually are day to day.

Presidents are flags pointing at issues, and leading the way to an approach, which congress and the senate hopefully take up.
But as Roger Stone advised Trump, exaggerate, make everything bigger than it is, get attention all the time, and smile through it.
Truth does not matter, its the attention that matters. This works over sound bites where people only hear a phrase, see a look,
"Make America great again" "Fake news" "Build a wall" "Scrap Obama care" "Covid is the flu"

This works until you realise that is all it is, without substance or depth. Everyone with substance and depth who gets close hits a brick wall and resigns. Some have called Trump terrible things because obvious responses where completely lacking, not even close to sensible. The phrase that stood out to me most recently was coming out of Covid because he is immune and young.

The fact these two ideas are ludicrous did not matter to him. Until he read the reaction. Nothing considered or balanced, or reasonable, just the same propoganda. When do people wake up to this propoganda machine is just that...... Trump is unique, because he can do this without a conscience. Today he will say one thing, tomorrow the opposite and deny both things when it suits. And if you oppose him, you are a bad person, fake news, say something nice, you are a friend and really great. Literally everyone around him just wants to keep him away from anything important, because it is a child in a china shop. Any other president is better than this, because this is like a child driving a car...... worse if you do not agree Trump is great, your fired.....
 

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Don't despise the day of small things! That's merely the first step. Just imagine is someone is able to make that viable!

Much love!

I am not sure you realise how much pressure this is. It could only be created by crushing two diamonds together at their very tip, so a minute area with an enormous like putting every city on earth into one mound and getting all that weight put into one square millimetre and that is still not enough weight. The super conductivity was an accident, the idea to was to created solid hydrogen, which was thought impossible.

So this method of super conductivity is also impossible...... So this is not a first step, it is just a curiosity, on the borders of what is possible.

On the subject of voting for Trump, he is not a republican, he is just Donald. So if you like Donald vote for him, but that is what you are voting for, not for conservative politics or anything that represents proper government or leadership.

God bless you
 

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So this method of super conductivity is also impossible...... So this is not a first step, it is just a curiosity, on the borders of what is possible.
But when you look at the history of Scientific discovery, much was considered impossible. Until we figured out how to do it. The first step towards a technology is always identifying the target.

Much love!
 

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But when you look at the history of Scientific discovery, much was considered impossible. Until we figured out how to do it. The first step towards a technology is always identifying the target.

Much love!

Super conductivity is something they have been looking at since 1911.
Hydrogen is the lightest element there is, so the hardest to make solid.
All my comment on was this is not a break through, it just an observation like seeing the echo of the big bang, nice.....
 

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But when you look at the history of Scientific discovery, much was considered impossible. Until we figured out how to do it. The first step towards a technology is always identifying the target.

Much love!

I suppose my observation is USA is generally right wing, and anti-social welfare.
The problem is robots and AI and taking over the simple jobs. What are you going to do with those with limited abilities, as there are fewer roles that need filling? And what are we going to do when we are really old and unable to look after ourselves because we are too weak and there are not enough people or money to provide support?

You need a socialist response. And this is coming, and politics will have to shift to adjust. When we died young and fit until we got ill and are gone, getting out and fighting worked. But this world is going, to be replaced with personal need and lack of supply. There are solutions, but it is more a mindset shift thats needed, and the far left need to be tamed. They believe in conspiracies like the far right, but let them win and its a blood bath.
 

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Super conductivity is something they have been looking at since 1911.
Hydrogen is the lightest element there is, so the hardest to make solid.
All my comment on was this is not a break through, it just an observation like seeing the echo of the big bang, nice.....
Echo of the 'big bang'?

Perhaps our worldview is more different than I thought . . .

But still . . . this seems to be the history of scientific discovery. Hey! Did you see that? I'll bet that will never happen again! Oh really? And off they go!

Who knows! But I wouldn't reject it out of hand.

Much love!
 

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I suppose my observation is USA is generally right wing, and anti-social welfare.
The problem is robots and AI and taking over the simple jobs. What are you going to do with those with limited abilities, as there are fewer roles that need filling? And what are we going to do when we are really old and unable to look after ourselves because we are too weak and there are not enough people or money to provide support?

You need a socialist response. And this is coming, and politics will have to shift to adjust. When we died young and fit until we got ill and are gone, getting out and fighting worked. But this world is going, to be replaced with personal need and lack of supply. There are solutions, but it is more a mindset shift thats needed, and the far left need to be tamed. They believe in conspiracies like the far right, but let them win and its a blood bath.
I think it is encroaching socialism that is creating this problem.

So we're "chicken and egg".

:)
 

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I think it is encroaching socialism that is creating this problem.

So we're "chicken and egg".

:)
I have a 95 year old mum in a care home, who needs 24hr support, which can only be funded by the sale of her house. And that is fine, except, our society cannot support the numbers that will arrive in this situation over the coming years. This is just a fact and we are part of this.

If the USA will not wake up to the need of their own people, then it will fall. Compassion used to be a trait of caring christian communities, now I wonder how christian these communities actually are.

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There used to be an idea a politician stood by his morals, sincerity and ability to be trusted. The main issue with Trump is he has failed on all levels and lies about it all the time. Most politicians would have just given up and gone away. I do not think there is going to be a library in honour of Trump and his wise words, or rather his wise tweets. Covid-19 has sunk Trump, 100%, because the choice between lives or business, he chooses business. Now I can see this, there is a line, but you have to respect Covid-19 as a deadly foe, not play games with it as if it means nothing when 200,000+ people have died. It is what leaders are for, to fight the fight against real enemies, and bring hope.

The trouble with politics, a crisis occurs, a strange politician appears, sorts it, and then the next style is need to get on to the next task.
In the UK it was Thatcher and the unions, which ushered in financial services big time. The Blair and the welfare state, now its Boris and Brexit.
People imagine its politics and the force of argument, but really its need and the best solution that enough agree on. The next massive challenge is China and the new Mao leader who looks like they want to conquer the world. Industry back to the US might become a reality, with this fall out.

Hatred is a strong word, but communist China has never loved the west, but they will use it to become powerful enough to strike back.

Thinking of prophecy, where are the prophets regarding the WW3.
A country building a navy bigger than the US, missiles enough to sink whole fleets, is not a friendly, passive force who thinks business and trade wins the world.

See it is your thinking that is wrong! Your second paragraph shows that. But first. Yes Trump will not have a library. He is not a politician so he has no political background wherewith to fill a library.

And no Trump did not choose between lives and business, He chose lives AND business. He shut the nation down! the 2nd Quarter showed teh single largest drop in GDP in our history! Over 60 million people went out of work. And to try to ameliorate that? Trump got passed the 2.2 trillion dollar stimulus bill that helped individuals (an extra $600 weekly in unemployment and a $1200 check for each adult and $500 for each child), plus small businesses and big businesses like airlines, hotels et.al.

He ramped up PPE production because under Obama teh stockpile had depleted and much of it was expired and rotting!

He sent two hospital ships ouot. Had teh Armed forces set up numerous MASH units to help treat people who were not serious. He banned travel from China 3 days after the emergency was declared by the so called "experts". Masks could not be worn by everyone because we did not have enough to go around for even the health care workers!

They are blaming Trump for the deaths when you look at nations that are reproting honestly have the same % deaths and infections as us! The whole world is now seeing a second wave. Don't listen to the propoganda of the left on this. 5 minutes doing google searches shows they are lying!
 
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