Do Old Testament type and figure that are fulfilled in the new give deeper biblical insight?
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Ferris Bueller
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Yes.
And it's a shame the church discarded them as worthless, even sinful, to recognize. I mean what better time and way to celebrate Christ our Passover Lamb than...oh, I don't know...Passover, maybe?
ScottA
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Much of what is written and created is mostly done in parable, i.e., as an "image", or is "like", etc...a cosmic explanation or manifestation of what is otherwise unseen to mortal mankind, because we too are made in image form. In a manner of speaking, God has drawn us many pictures...for we are but children, that is until or unless we mature.
quietthinker
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Ferris Bueller
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How are you going to do so with no temple?
No ark of the covenant!
No ministerial priesthood!
No sacrifice!
No altar!
No golden censor with sweet smelling incense!
No ark of the covenant!
No ministerial priesthood!
No sacrifice!
No altar!
No golden censor with sweet smelling incense!
No, I accept and pursue that which God directs. Should we do otherwise?
"...not as I will, but as thou wilt." Matt 26:39
What is God's will for us? Does He not know? Will He not correctly lead us if we surrender ourselves continuously to Him?
Ferris Bueller
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Why did the Catholics decide that it was not fitting to partake of the Passover elements, the bread and the wine, on the actual Passover date?
Ferris Bueller
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The types found in exodus 12 and fulfilled in the passion of Christ are fascinating
hyssop for example:
And what of any fulfilled in us? Could they not also be fascinating?
"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." John 16:33
"He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God" Rev 2:7
we don’t celebrate old covenant feasts but the new covenant feast in the body and blood of Christ!
the old pointed to Christ and to keep them would be a denial of his first coming as the Jews do!
Ferris Bueller
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No it's not. It's only a denial of Christ if you make it a denial of Christ.
The Catholic church decided that any and all observances of the Mosaic festivals was categorically without exception and for any reason sin. Not realizing the bread and wine they serve are elements of the Passover feast. This ignorance of the law was carried into the non-Catholic churches and remains to this day. It's only a sin to keep the festivals and sabbaths if you are doing that with the express purpose of being justified by those observances. Paul's example shows us, clearly, that it is not categorically for all reasons a sin to keep the Mosaic festival observances. But the Catholic church does not understand this and out of their anti-Semitism and ignorance of the law they literally outlawed the observances and replaced them with pagan festivals attractive to the masses.
Ferris Bueller
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They have not done so according to the letter of the law. They are unable to do that. But I assure you the Jews operate according to the Mosaic festival schedule not your gentile/pagan inventions.
Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, Cantate Domino, 1441: “The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and teaches that the matter pertaining to the law of the Old Testament, of the Mosaic Law, which are divided into ceremonies, sacred rites, sacrifices, and sacraments, because they were established to signify something in the future, although they were suited to divine worship at that time, after our Lord’s coming had been signified by them, ceased, and the sacraments of the New Testament began; and that whoever, even after the passion, placed hope in these matters of the law and submitted himself to them as necessary for salvation, as if faith in Christ could not save without them, sinned mortally. Yet it does not deny that after the passion of Christ up to the promulgation of the Gospel they could have been observed until they were believed to be in no way necessary for salvation; but after the promulgation of the Gospel it asserts that they cannot be observed without the loss of eternal salvation. All, therefore, who after that time (the promulgation of the Gospel) observe circumcision and the Sabbath and the other requirements of the law, it declares alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation, unless someday they recover from these errors.”
Pope Benedict XIV in Ex Quo:
"The first consideration is that the ceremonies of the Mosaic Law *were abrogated* by the coming of Christ and that they can no longer be observed without sin after the promulgation of the Gospel. "
Pope Pius XII in Mystici Corporis:
"29. And first of all, by the death of our Redeemer, the New Testament took the place of the Old Law which had been abolished; then the Law of Christ together with its mysteries, enactments, institutions, and sacred rites was ratified for the whole world in the blood of Jesus Christ. For, while our Divine Savior was preaching in a restricted area - He was not sent but to the sheep that were lost of the House of Israel [30] - the Law and the Gospel were together in force; [31] but on the gibbet of His death Jesus made void the Law with its decrees [32] fastened the handwriting of the Old Testament to the Cross, [33] establishing the New Testament in His blood shed for the whole human race.[34] "To such an extent, then," says St. Leo the Great, speaking of the Cross of our Lord, "*was there effected a transfer from the Law to the Gospel, from the Synagogue to the Church, from the many sacrifices to one Victim, that, as Our Lord expired, that mystical veil which shut off the innermost part of the temple and its sacred secret was rent violently from top to bottom.*" [35]
30. *On the Cross then the Old Law died, soon to be buried and to be a bearer of death*, [36] in order to give way to the New Testament of which Christ had chosen the Apostles as qualified ministers; [37] and although He had been constituted the Head of the whole human family in the womb of the Blessed Virgin, it is by the power of the Cross that our Savior exercises fully the office itself of Head of His Church. "
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