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  1. Jacob28

    Jacob28 Member

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    "Let the woman learn in silence with all subjugation.

    But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

    For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

    And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." 1 Tim. 2:11-14

    This Epistle contains instructions for conduct within a Church. Each of these statements is the very Word of God in principle, and is not merely in the context of the Corinthians Church. All Christians Women are to:

    1.) Keep silent in church during teaching.
    2.) Learn and accept all being taught by Men.
    3.) Not teach Men anything.
    4.) Have absolutely no authority over a Man.
    5.) Use God's higher ordained preference upon Men as the sole reason for doing all of this, rather than coming up with some "Personal decision to agree and comply, Okay, Whatever you say."
    6.) Agree with God's statement that, as was sinless Eve before she sinned, Women are inherently more easily to transgress.

    Yes, Paul was right, especially since he was not married such that he would have been speaking from having had a grievously mouthy Wife who was contrary to this Word of God. Praise God for His clarity and authority.

    I was married to a Woman who had been teaching multiple Bible Studies to mixed groups. She later passed from cancer.
     
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    Pearl Well-Known Member

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    Oh No Again!

    Are you saying she died of cancer because of the teaching?
     
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    Hi @Jacob28! We've had debates on this before on the issue of women preaching or proclaiming God. There are examples of women prophets in the bible (Huldah - Wikipedia). And there is also the verse you mentioned: 1 Timothy 2:11-14.

    Women don't hold the priesthood in my church. And men have the ultimate authority. Women do preside over the other women and children of the church and give talks in my sacrament meetings as part of the congregation. Under direction from the priesthood.

    I think this honors the scriptures and also women with regard to the scriptures.
     
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    In my church we are all equal under Christ the head and sometimes women preach and sometimes men make the brews. We believe this verse:
    Galatians 3:28
    There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    Paul was addressing the church because of all the arguments among members at the time. He specifically addressed women who were married who were usurping their authority over their husband. This violated God's command that a husband is head of his household.
    I suggest if you are going to attempt to teach on the forum that you first study in depth what you are teaching.
     
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    Still smell troll. Baiting.
     
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    Yes, I answered a couple of his odd questions and then quickly realized what was going on. Regret responding. Going to ignore.
     
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    Did I say that? Are you trying to imagine something by "reading in between the lines?" Lol. You are.
     
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    Jacob28 Member

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    Please do.
     
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    Yes. People who intuitively chat and share can only "suggest."

    Paul was speaking of all women in the Church, not just of the ones you want. I specify you are not to add your interpretations to God's Word. Read the clarity of it.
     
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    Was the "Man created first?"
     
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    I smell a daughter of Eve.
     
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    Whether or not this topic has been previously debated matters not, just as it matters not that you say "Hi!" to me, and talk about what your church likes to do. God's Word does not allow women to "debate."

    This discussion is not about your ideas. It is about what is written as God's declared Word. Do you understand what I said?
     
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    You actually said at the end of your post:

    You made the link not me, I merely asked you for clarity. But I suspect you are protesting too loudly. LOL.
     
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    I agree to disagree....you haven't explained to other posters how your belief justifies God using women in ministry throughout the Bible.
     
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    If you do start to read it let me know and I'll re-read it with you.
     
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    Heart2Soul Spiritual Warrior Staff Member

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    I will, thanks again Pearl.
     
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    Excerpt:

    "For the first hundred years they (women) were teachers, administrators, evangelists and prophets, but then the creeping tide of institutionalism pushed them from the centre to the periphery of church life, as the numerous house churches spread across the great cities were subjected to centralized control."
     
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