Was Sin Created By God ?

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rev 4:[sup]11[/sup]Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.Many today really underestimate, or dont believe this precious truth, or they limit its meaning. But the truth of the matter is that all which we experience and see of in this world was created for The Triune's God purpose and pleasure..not one speck of dust is excepted, all for His pleasure, which includes sin and evil.In the greek, it would read The all is created for thy pleasure, things was just added by the translators.. remember isa 53:Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.It pleased the LORD to bruise Him, for sin..the word pleased is the hebrew word:chaphets :to delight in, take pleasure in, desire, be pleased with to delight in, have pleasure in
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to be pleased to doSo it is plainy seen, that the sin offering christ was made for His people was pleasing and a pleasure for the Lord, He delighteth in it, hence we see how the greatest evil in the world, was actually created for Gods pleasure..Lets look at an new testament passage that teaches the same thing..col 1: [sup]16[/sup]For by him[Jesus christ] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: [sup]17[/sup]And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. It certainly cannot be denied from this passage we have revealed that God by the Mediator of Man, Jesus christ, again created all things..more descriptively, we have created , principalties, powers, dominions, thrones.and ect..all entities in heaven, in earth, visible and invisible..sin is a power..its an entity, its a dominion..lets look at rom 6:For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.yes, sin is a dominion..and according to col 1 all dominions were created by God..what is the meaning of dominion ?its the greek word:kyrieuô which means:to be lord of, to rule, have dominion over2) of things and forcesa) to exercise influence upon, to have power overSurely our expirence of sin fits this very definitions..The humble david prayed ps 19:Keep back thy servant also from presumptuous sins; let them not have dominion over me: then shall I be upright, and I shall be innocent from the great transgression.david believed this blessed truth that i am sharing today from the word of God, that sin is a dominion, created by and controlled by the Sovereign Lord, and that it serves His pleasure..The word sin is given identity in rom 7:[sup]8[/sup]But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.note, sin taking occasion..[sup]9[/sup]For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.[sup]11[/sup]For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, [sin]deceived me, and by it [sin]slew me. [sup]13[/sup]Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. [sup]14[/sup]For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.[sup]17[/sup]Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. [sup]25[/sup]I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sinnow does the Law of God have being, power, or entitiy ? So likewise the Law of sin..Therefore sin too is a power..and what does the scripture say in col 1: [sup]16[/sup]For by him[Jesus christ] were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: If sin is a power, like rom 7 declares it to be, then according to this scripture, it was created for Jesus christ..Sin was created for Jesus christ to die for, was it not ? Did not Jesus christ die for sin ?1 cor 15:[sup]3[/sup]For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; [sup]4[/sup]And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: was not this dying for sin of Gods eternal purpose ? eph 3:[sup]9[/sup]And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: [sup]10[/sup]To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, [sup]11[/sup]According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: Was not this declared as Gods eternal purpose too in rev 13: [sup]8[/sup]And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain[for sin] from the foundation of the world. [sup]9[/sup]If any man have an ear, let him hear.Its clearly taught in scripture, for those who are of God, that sin was created by and for God, yes, it in all its evil, only serve the wise purpose of God, in the salvation of His people, through our Lord Jesus christ.. Only Gods True sheep will hear Gods voice in this blessed truth, but Gods enemies will reject and contradict it, but this too, is the pleasure of the Lord..
 

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QUOTE (savedbygrace57 @ Mar 14 2009, 12:18 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70814
rev 4:[sup]11[/sup]Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.Many today really underestimate, or dont believe this precious truth, or they limit its meaning. But the truth of the matter is that all which we experience and see of in this world was created for The Triune's God purpose and pleasure..not one speck of dust is excepted, all for His pleasure, which includes sin and evil.In the greek, it would read The all is created for thy pleasure, things was just added by the translators.. remember isa 53:Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.It pleased the LORD to bruise Him, for sin..the word pleased is the hebrew word:chaphets :to delight in, take pleasure in, desire, be pleased with to delight in, have pleasure in
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to be pleased to doSo it is plainy seen, that the sin offering christ was made for His people was pleasing and a pleasure for the Lord, He delighteth in it, hence we see how the greatest evil in the world, was actually created for Gods pleasure..
Yes, God put his SON to grief, Hebrews 5:7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a SON, he learned obedience from what he suffered and once made perfect, he becames the sourece of eternal salvation for all who obey him and was designated by God to be High Priest. God delighted in Christ, his Son. Who came and fulfilled the Laws requirement, shedding of blood, for our sins. God delighted in His Son and was well pleased as he spoke from the cloud the Day Christ was baptized to those standing around at the Jordan with John the Baptist. Christ so loved the Father that he gave his life as the Father so love the world he gave his only SON. How much more should we, being the children of God, live our lives to delight our Father as Christ did? I don't know if I could go so far as to say God delights in evil, but I would say that God uses evil for good. In Christ's precious and holy words of lifeVickie
 

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QUOTE (Vickie @ Mar 14 2009, 04:48 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70832
Yes, God put his SON to grief, Hebrews 5:7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a SON, he learned obedience from what he suffered and once made perfect, he becames the sourece of eternal salvation for all who obey him and was designated by God to be High Priest. God delighted in Christ, his Son. Who came and fulfilled the Laws requirement, shedding of blood, for our sins. God delighted in His Son and was well pleased as he spoke from the cloud the Day Christ was baptized to those standing around at the Jordan with John the Baptist. Christ so loved the Father that he gave his life as the Father so love the world he gave his only SON. How much more should we, being the children of God, live our lives to delight our Father as Christ did? I don't know if I could go so far as to say God delights in evil, but I would say that God uses evil for good. In Christ's precious and holy words of lifeVickie
Well, I have shown you the truth, you dont believe it..QUOTE (Jordan @ Mar 14 2009, 03:17 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70822
No God did not create sin.
You can deny truth all you want, i just showed it to you..you must dont believe in God..since you reject His words..
 

Christina

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God DID NOT CREATE SIN God can not sin and if you believe he did then you need to go back and search for what you missed God created Lucifer ... who fell became full of pride and introduced sin into the World ... So did God create Lucifer who became Satan yes ... did God create sin NO!!!Sin is not created or a part of creation ... God created all things in perfection NOT IMPERFECTION... He gave Lucifer a free will and beatuy and itelligence and he used this free will to become prideful and itroduce sin ...Not God ...
 

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Your right I dont believe what isnt true ... as I said in my postIts like a douhgnut with a hole the absence of God is evil ....and sin is not created... its its an action against God ... If what you say is true than the Bible lies ...Its says Satan brought sin into the World through Adam .. You are saying thats a lie God did ??he brought sin against himself?? ... His creation is not perfect then?you cant have it both ways ....Heres a good ltttle article about this Did God create sin?No, God did not create sin. God is holy and He would not create that which is contrary to His nature. Sinfulness is the opposite of holiness. It is lawlessness (1 John 3:4). God is the author of the Law which is a reflection of His holy character (Exodus 20). Therefore, God cannot create that which is in direct violation of the Law any more than a person can wish himself to be bigger than the sun. It just isn’t possible.But, if God didn’t create sin, then where did it come from? This is a question that has been debated by theologians and philosophers for many years. I cannot say that I have any better answers than they. Nevertheless, let me venture a guess.God created the conditions where free will creatures would be able to make a choice between obedience and disobedience to God. This condition existed when God created an angel called Lucifer who was without sin yet, apparently, had free will. Lucifer chose to rebel against God and sin (Isaiah 14:12-15; Ezek. 28:13-15). Likewise, Adam and Eve, having been made by God without sin, listened to the devil and chose to sin against God (Gen. 3).But God did not cause them to sin (James 1:13). In the freedom of their wills, each decided to rebel against God and sin entered the world (Rom. 5:12). God simply allowed the condition to exist where sin was possible.An analogy can be found in the relationship between a parent and a child. A parent can create the condition that makes disobedience possible yet the parent remains innocent if the child sins. For example, if a parent tells his child to clean up his room and the child does not, he has rebelled. But, the parent is not responsible for the child’s sin, nor did he cause the child to sin. The child had a choice to obey or not to obey.Likewise, God has created the condition in the world where the ability to rebel against Him was possible. Yet, he is not responsible for that rebellion once it has been committed. Therefore, sin originated with Lucifer who was the first to rebel and entered the world through Adam who likewise chose disobedience
 

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QUOTE (savedbygrace57 @ Mar 16 2009, 04:07 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70934
QUOTE (Christina @ Mar 16 2009, 03:39 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=70931
Your right I dont believe what isnt true ...
You dont believe what is true, because you cant..Is that all you can say? No opinions of your nasty comment or anyone comment is going to change someone's mind because you and anyone have no ounce of prove whatsoever. No scriptures to support it but their own opinions.