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Another sign of the nearness of the last days as We see a Ratcheting up of Hatred toward anything Christian, Moral. or Conservative in our Nation!
The Texas storm and floods will cost 100 Billion += a very high price to pay for telling God He is not wanted or need in our life and we want any public prayer stopped. AOK!! Your choice!! God will not force anyone to accept His love,blessings,protection.
 
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Another sign of the nearness of the last days as We see a Ratcheting up of Hatred toward anything Christian, Moral. or Conservative in our Nation!
The Texas storm and floods will cost 100 Billion += a very high price to pay for telling God He is not wanted or need in our life and we want any public prayer stopped. AOK!! Your choice!! God will not force anyone to accept His love,blessings,protection.

Well I have been studying The Spring and Fall Feasts, which God declared to be HIS Feast. Jesus Fulfilled the Spring Feasts, these were what Stephen called the living oracles, they are things they practice, a form of worship through routine, the time between the spring and fall Feasts is the Time of the Gentiles, and when the Fall Feasts begin to be fulfilled, In MY Opinion!!! the time of the Gentiles will be over! The sad truth is that a Land that turns its Back on God will receive Judgment as a whole, we are responsible for the Kings we elect, Israel is a example, good King they flourished, bad King they went down hill, nothing New under the Sun. We are to refer to the History in the Scriptures for they are for our admonition, we as believers have the Hope that others do not, so all I can say is Hold On It's Going to get Bumpy.
 

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Well I have been studying The Spring and Fall Feasts, which God declared to be HIS Feast. Jesus Fulfilled the Spring Feasts, these were what Stephen called the living oracles, they are things they practice, a form of worship through routine, the time between the spring and fall Feasts is the Time of the Gentiles, and when the Fall Feasts begin to be fulfilled, In MY Opinion!!! the time of the Gentiles will be over! The sad truth is that a Land that turns its Back on God will receive Judgment as a whole, we are responsible for the Kings we elect, Israel is a example, good King they flourished, bad King they went down hill, nothing New under the Sun. We are to refer to the History in the Scriptures for they are for our admonition, we as believers have the Hope that others do not, so all I can say is Hold On It's Going to get Bumpy.


I understand the reasoning behind why the fall is the time, but is there more to show this other than Jesus fulfilling the Passover season + plus what was to come to pass 50 days later.

there were three main feasts during the year, weren't there?


Exo 23:14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty: ) 16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.

feast of unleavened bread


feast of harvest


feast of ingathering

it seems that the "feast of ingathering" maybe what we should be looking to.
 
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I understand the reasoning behind why the fall is the time, but is there more to show this other than Jesus fulfilling the Passover season + plus what was to come to pass 50 days later.

there were three main feasts during the year, weren't there?


Exo 23:14 Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. 15 Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty: ) 16 And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field.

feast of unleavened bread


feast of harvest


feast of ingathering

it seems that the "feast of ingathering" maybe what we should be looking to.

Passover between the evenings, at sundown the Passover was eaten, with bitter herbs and unleavened bread, also at sundown was the first Day of Unleavened Bread which is a High Sabbath, no work is done until sundown the next evening, after which we are allowed to take care of food prep, livestock, things that need attention. the 15th is the First day of unleavened Bread, and on the evening of the 20th, which at sundown is the 21st and this is the Last Day of Unleavened Bread which is also a High Sabbath, no work until sundown on the 21st. then in the Middle of the 7 days there will be a Weekly Sabbath, at the end of the Sabbath at sundown the priests will harvest a sheave of Barley for the the next day which will be a Sunday, or the first day of the week, which is the First fruits Offering. they were not required to come up for the First fruit offering because everyone was already in Jerusalem. the second required Feast was a one Day Feast which is called Shavot, which means 50 in Hebrew, also known as Pentecost, which in Greek means 50. after the weekly Sabbath, we count 7 weekly Sabbaths + 1 day which adds up to 50. the giving of the Holy Spirit, which was the same day that God Shouted the 10 Commandments from the Mount. the Last of the Fall Feasts is Tabernacles, or the Feasts of booths, which is an 8 day Feast. Our Savior was Born on the First day of Tabernacles, that was when the word was made Flesh and Tabernacled with Us. Those are the Three Required Pilgrimages, up to the City, Passover, & Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, and in the Fall Feast of Booths.
Yes In-gathering is what will be what we Hope for!
 
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Another sign of the nearness of the last days as We see a Ratcheting up of Hatred toward anything Christian, Moral. or Conservative in our Nation!
The Texas storm and floods will cost 100 Billion += a very high price to pay for telling God He is not wanted or need in our life and we want any public prayer stopped. AOK!! Your choice!! God will not force anyone to accept His love,blessings,protection.


well what I see in the case "Ratcheting up of Hatred" is the redefinition of hatred, such as haters of haters. hence in the very politically liberal, sense its not hatting if you hate haters. then it becomes justified to hate. and you are correct to a point in the eyes of the public view Christians are haters, they hate homosexuality they hate adultery so on and so forth all the thing western culture seeks to make socially ok even glorified. take what was once for the up-right and now giving it to the strange and degenerate. and the continual appeasement has spilled over to the adornment of entitlement of the unseemly. therefore it is justified to hate them because they hate.

hence to retain this steeling of a society if you will they must get the general public to hate those they hate, by accusing such as bigots.
but bigot means one who stand their position and doesn't change their mind. so anyone faithful to such a thing as the bible is a bigot. but society says that is evil, evil in their judgement because such is against the social acceptance of their desires.

or racists

there's one for ya the president was called a racist by everyone the media could find that would say so. hence promoted by media. because he restrict travel to the US from certain countries. but note the media well knows that the countries mention are all Muslim and they also know Muslim is a religion, actually a political philosophy, not a race of people.

so this will go on, the ratcheting, what proves this to be so is :

United Nations General Assembly Resolution 3379, adopted on November 10, 1975 by a vote of 72 to 35 (with 32 abstentions), "determine[d] that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination". The vote took place approximately one year after UNGA 3237 granted the PLO "observer status", following PLO president Yasser Arafat's "olive branch" speech to the General Assembly in November 1974. The resolution was passed with the support of the Soviet bloc and other then Soviet-aligned nations, in addition to the Arab and Muslim majority countries.

The determination that "Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination", contained in the resolution, was revoked in 1991 with UN General Assembly Resolution 46/86.[1]

this is how corrupt the world is for its own purposes, and yes what the Muslim states have proved here is they can politically manipulate the west when they see fit. and the Americans will stamped in whatever direction that their fears lead them.
 
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Let us remember that Jesus stated that He Hated the Doctrines and deeds of the Nicolaitans, so Our Savior has a form of Hatred, commonly known as Righteous Indignation!
 

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Passover between the evenings, at sundown the Passover was eaten, with bitter herbs and unleavened bread, also at sundown was the first Day of Unleavened Bread which is a High Sabbath, no work is done until sundown the next evening, after which we are allowed to take care of food prep, livestock, things that need attention. the 15th is the First day of unleavened Bread, and on the evening of the 20th, which at sundown is the 21st and this is the Last Day of Unleavened Bread which is also a High Sabbath, no work until sundown on the 21st. then in the Middle of the 7 days there will be a Weekly Sabbath, at the end of the Sabbath at sundown the priests will harvest a sheave of Barley for the the next day which will be a Sunday, or the first day of the week, which is the First fruits Offering. they were not required to come up for the First fruit offering because everyone was already in Jerusalem. the second required Feast was a one Day Feast which is called Shavot, which means 50 in Hebrew, also known as Pentecost, which in Greek means 50. after the weekly Sabbath, we count 7 weekly Sabbaths + 1 day which adds up to 50. the giving of the Holy Spirit, which was the same day that God Shouted the 10 Commandments from the Mount. the Last of the Fall Feasts is Tabernacles, or the Feasts of booths, which is an 8 day Feast. Our Savior was Born on the First day of Tabernacles, that was when the word was made Flesh and Tabernacled with Us. Those are the Three Required Pilgrimages, up to the City, Passover, & Unleavened Bread, Pentecost, and in the Fall Feast of Booths.
Yes In-gathering is what will be what we Hope for!

I didn't know the speaking the Ten commandment to Israel was the same day. that info is in the awesome section, thanks. and I had no idea when exactly the day Jesus came into the world, to many theories fly around on that one. you should be teaching somewhere big guy, I mean it. this type of info is to valuable to keep to yourself. many people have been bamboozled by the seminary factories to the point know body seems to know nothing about this sort of thing. there's a big need for it.
 

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Let us remember that Jesus stated that He Hated the Doctrines and deeds of the Nicolaitans, so Our Savior has a form of Hatred, commonly known as Righteous Indignation!

I generally held that Nicolaitans was rule over the people, or establlshed clergy. The roots of that word suggest rule over or submission of the laity or congregants. While it was established that there are definite positions within the church (pastors, elders, etc) there is nothing that implies a hierarchal system that Nicolaitan would imply. Yeshua had some pretty harsh words for the doctrine of the nicolaitans. Yeshua taught us that we are to serve one another, not rule over one another.
 
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I didn't know the speaking the Ten commandment to Israel was the same day. that info is in the awesome section, thanks. and I had no idea when exactly the day Jesus came into the world, to many theories fly around on that one. you should be teaching somewhere big guy, I mean it. this type of info is to valuable to keep to yourself. many people have been bamboozled by the seminary factories to the point know body seems to know nothing about this sort of thing. there's a big need for it.

Indeed! According to tradition, God spoke the Ten Commandments in the all the known languages of the earth at that time. That is corresponds to Shavuot (Pentacost) is profound. On that day, those in the room when the Holy Spirit came upon them all spoke in the various languages of those present in Jerusalem.

It is a shame that the church walked away from its Jewish roots. There is so much the church misses out on. So many fail to remember that the Messiah was Jewish, the early church was predominately Jewish, and the entire NT was written by Jewish people with the possible exception of Luke. This avoidance of the Jewish roots has led to so much doctrinal error by the church over the centuries.

it is relatively easy to determine when Yeshua was born. In Luke, we see Zechariah (JB's dad) serving in the temple during his course of Aviyah (the 8th course of the priests, establish by King David). That puts his time of service roughly in late June. He is told by an angel that he and Elishavah will have a son that will go forth in the spirit of Elijah to proclaim the Messiah. Later, we see Mary getting her angelic visitation that she will be the mother of the Messiah. She immediately goes to Elishavah, her cousin and JB's mom, and Elishavah is in her 6th month of pregnancy. So that means Mary conceived in December, most likely at Hannukah (festival of lights) since Yeshua is the "light of the world". Go forward nine months gestation, and you are in the fall festivals. Hannukah is not on the list of feast days of Leviticus 23, but it was recognized by Yeshua as a legitimate feast day in John 10:22.

As a side note, given when JB was conceived, it is most likely that JB was born at Passover. Tradition is that always a place is set at the Passover table for Elijah. The children are sent to the door at this time to see if Elijah has come. Elijah had to precede the Messiah (Malachi 4:5). JB came in the spirit and power of Elijah, confirmed by both the angel and later by Yeshua Himself.

Simple, eh?
 
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Indeed! According to tradition, God spoke the Ten Commandments in the all the known languages of the earth at that time. That is corresponds to Shavuot (Pentacost) is profound. On that day, those in the room when the Holy Spirit came upon them all spoke in the various languages of those present in Jerusalem.

It is a shame that the church walked away from its Jewish roots. There is so much the church misses out on. So many fail to remember that the Messiah was Jewish, the early church was predominately Jewish, and the entire NT was written by Jewish people with the possible exception of Luke. This avoidance of the Jewish roots has led to so much doctrinal error by the church over the centuries.

it is relatively easy to determine when Yeshua was born. In Luke, we see Zechariah (JB's dad) serving in the temple during his course of Aviyah (the 8th course of the priests, establish by King David). That puts his time of service roughly in late June. He is told by an angel that he and Elishavah will have a son that will go forth in the spirit of Elijah to proclaim the Messiah. Later, we see Mary getting her angelic visitation that she will be the mother of the Messiah. She immediately goes to Elishavah, her cousin and JB's mom, and Elishavah is in her 6th month of pregnancy. So that means Mary conceived in December, most likely at Hannukah (festival of lights) since Yeshua is the "light of the world". Go forward nine months gestation, and you are in the fall festivals. Hannukah is not on the list of feast days of Leviticus 23, but it was recognized by Yeshua as a legitimate feast day in John 10:22.

As a side note, given when JB was conceived, it is most likely that JB was born at Passover. Tradition is that always a place is set at the Passover table for Elijah. The children are sent to the door at this time to see if Elijah has come. Elijah had to precede the Messiah (Malachi 4:5). JB came in the spirit and power of Elijah, confirmed by both the angel and later by Yeshua Himself.

Simple, eh?

Tabernacles, 1st High Sabbath of Tabernacles, When the word in the flesh, Tabernacled with us,? you most likely know this! I Just enjoyed your post.
 

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Indeed! According to tradition, God spoke the Ten Commandments in the all the known languages of the earth at that time. That is corresponds to Shavuot (Pentacost) is profound. On that day, those in the room when the Holy Spirit came upon them all spoke in the various languages of those present in Jerusalem.

It is a shame that the church walked away from its Jewish roots. There is so much the church misses out on. So many fail to remember that the Messiah was Jewish, the early church was predominately Jewish, and the entire NT was written by Jewish people with the possible exception of Luke. This avoidance of the Jewish roots has led to so much doctrinal error by the church over the centuries.

it is relatively easy to determine when Yeshua was born. In Luke, we see Zechariah (JB's dad) serving in the temple during his course of Aviyah (the 8th course of the priests, establish by King David). That puts his time of service roughly in late June. He is told by an angel that he and Elishavah will have a son that will go forth in the spirit of Elijah to proclaim the Messiah. Later, we see Mary getting her angelic visitation that she will be the mother of the Messiah. She immediately goes to Elishavah, her cousin and JB's mom, and Elishavah is in her 6th month of pregnancy. So that means Mary conceived in December, most likely at Hannukah (festival of lights) since Yeshua is the "light of the world". Go forward nine months gestation, and you are in the fall festivals. Hannukah is not on the list of feast days of Leviticus 23, but it was recognized by Yeshua as a legitimate feast day in John 10:22.

As a side note, given when JB was conceived, it is most likely that JB was born at Passover. Tradition is that always a place is set at the Passover table for Elijah. The children are sent to the door at this time to see if Elijah has come. Elijah had to precede the Messiah (Malachi 4:5). JB came in the spirit and power of Elijah, confirmed by both the angel and later by Yeshua Himself.

Simple, eh?

yah, very good. and you are correct that it is essential to the followers Life in Christ that the understanding of such be brought to light, otherwise it becomes stagnant, again very, very good.

also, if you remember when Jesus appeared to the two walking and in there witness afterwards they said that their hearts were burning as the Lord Jesus revealed what He fulfilled in the scriptures to them. this is a lessen in itself of just what feeds the sheep in respect to the meat of the Word, and its effect on the believer.
 
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