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“An old Scottish preacher had to go past a glass factory each day on his way
to the church. On one occasion he had a little extra time, and since the factory
door was open, he decided to look inside. There before him was a large, blazing
furnace. The minister gazed into the white, blue, and purple mass of liquid
flame, and the intense heat almost seared his face.

As he turned to leave, a workman standing in the shadows nearby overheard
him exclaim, ‘Ho mon! What shall Hell be like!’...

...As we know, the Lord, more than any other, warned about the danger of Hell
(Gr. gehenna) and hellfire. Most would agree this is the literal “Hell” of the Bible.
And the Lord had much to say about this realm.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...Ye serpents, ye
generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”
(Matt. 23:29,33)...​

...He adds in Mark 9:43,44 that some will “go into hell, into the fire that never
shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not [apparently a reference to the
soul], and the fire is not quenched.” If they go “into Hell,” are we not to under-
stand that Hell is a place, and not merely a state of mind?

The fire that is said never to be quenched clearly coincides with the “everlasting
fire” prepared for the devil and his angels. Furthermore, we know the fire is literal
because the Lord Himself confirmed this when He gave the interpretation of the
parable of the wheat and tares (Matt. 13:36-43)...

...But some will argue...

...the Apostle Paul gives us the most chilling description of Hell, that those
who enter through its gates will suffer everlasting destruction or loss of
wellbeing (II Thes. 1:9). They will be forever separated from the presence
of the Lord and the glory of His power.

As the old Scottish preacher exclaimed...

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“An old Scottish preacher had to go past a glass factory each day on his way
to the church. On one occasion he had a little extra time, and since the factory
door was open, he decided to look inside. There before him was a large, blazing
furnace. The minister gazed into the white, blue, and purple mass of liquid
flame, and the intense heat almost seared his face.

As he turned to leave, a workman standing in the shadows nearby overheard
him exclaim, ‘Ho mon! What shall Hell be like!’...

...As we know, the Lord, more than any other, warned about the danger of Hell
(Gr. gehenna) and hellfire. Most would agree this is the literal “Hell” of the Bible.
And the Lord had much to say about this realm.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...Ye serpents, ye
generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”
(Matt. 23:29,33)...​

...He adds in Mark 9:43,44 that some will “go into hell, into the fire that never
shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not [apparently a reference to the
soul], and the fire is not quenched.” If they go “into Hell,” are we not to under-
stand that Hell is a place, and not merely a state of mind?

The fire that is said never to be quenched clearly coincides with the “everlasting
fire” prepared for the devil and his angels. Furthermore, we know the fire is literal
because the Lord Himself confirmed this when He gave the interpretation of the
parable of the wheat and tares (Matt. 13:36-43)...

...But some will argue...

...the Apostle Paul gives us the most chilling description of Hell, that those
who enter through its gates will suffer everlasting destruction or loss of
wellbeing (II Thes. 1:9). They will be forever separated from the presence
of the Lord and the glory of His power.

As the old Scottish preacher exclaimed...

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What Will Hell Be Like?

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Hell, Sheol, Hades, And The Grave
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Since no one who goes there is conscious, it will basically be like nothing. Hell is simply an English word that was translated from Sheol and Hades as you finished your post with. It is defined as the abode of the dead, and I have no reason to think otherwise. But you did post the term from another Bible word, at Mat 29:33, what is that referring to Grace?
 

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FAQ: What might Hell be like?

REPLY: Seeing as how nobody down there has any more reason to be civil,
then I think new arrivals can expect to be ill treated in that world.

Also, folks down there are deprived of the regeneration spoken of per John
3:3-8 so they are there as they were here. Well; human nature tends to
deteriorate, sort of like the decay experienced by road kill and spoiled fruits
and vegetables. I'd expect that the lost get badder and baddder and badder
as time goes on so that even a saint like Mother Teresa would eventually
become so evil that her conduct in Hell would be disturbing to behold.

And then; according to Matt 7:21-23, not everyone talking the talk will make
the cut.

Well; I would not want to be one of them because they will surely be
mocked cruelly and without mercy by some of the netherworld's unruly
crowd. I can just hear their giggling and their taunts:

Hey Christian! How's about sharing the gospel with us ay? Tell us about the
love of God and how that's working for ya. Awwwww-Haw-Haw-Haw-
Hawwwwwwwww!

I'd rather end up in Hell as a Bernie Madoff than a failed Christian because
ol' ponzi schemer Bernie is sure to be given far more respect down there
than a bible thumper.
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Ps 115:17-18 . .The dead do not praise The Lord, nor do any who go
down into silence.

"any who go down into silence" tells about people who have lost all
meaningful contact with God, i.e. He no longer lends them His ear; they're
permanently cut off from His benevolence, viz: The Lord has no interest in
them whatsoever and as far as He's concerned they're dead to Him like old
documents disposed in the shredder because they no longer matter.
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Like already stated hell is an English word that is trying to convey the meaning of the Biblical texts of Hebrew and Greek. One needs to also understand that many Greek words are associated with the Greek Mythology mindset and meanings as is revealed by the word Hades associated with a god being of the underworld which is Mythology. The Hebrew word Sheol meaning pit, grave etc, has the same root שאל as to ask or request, seeking what is not known. To put it simply in the Hebrew mindset "the people who wrote the Bible" sheol is unknown, what is unknown which is the grave. In the Hebrew mindset if something is unknown well they leave it at that. Contrasted in the Greek mindset they need to know. It is either this or it is that, it is black or it is white. Not so with the Hebrew. Problem with having to have an answer, things and doctrines start to be invented and mythology comes in and redefining terms takes place. My current understanding is that the modern view of hell predominately comes from the medieval ages and a lot of art from that period especially by Dante's 13 levels of hell picture which then evolved into a doctrine and belief of what hell is. This is not supported with the scriptures when read from the original languages along with their meanings. English is a translation of these original languages and English words do not necessarily convey accurately the meanings of words from these languages. To the original author's who lived and spoke in a language and culture vastly different from ours, I don't believe the current view of hell was held by them.
One must read and understand the scriptures as much as possible from the perspective of the times they were written in and by whom they were written by. Not by a modern perspective and culture.

Maybe the right question is what do I need to do to avoid being separated from Yahweh.

Blessings and Shalom
 

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In the beginning; humanity was created with a conscience patterned after its
maker's conscience.

"And God said: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness . . So God
created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male
and female created he them." (Gen 1:26-27)

Then came the forbidden fruit incident, wherein humanity's conscience lost
its divine quality and became humanistic.

Then the Lord God said: Behold, the man has become like one of us,
knowing good and evil. (Gen 3:22)

I think most folks would agree that monsters like Kim Jong-Un, Xi Jinping,
Robert Mugabe, Al Capone, drug cartel king pins, human traffickers, and
Joseph Stalin belong in Hell; but why are decent folk down there?

Well; obviously humanity's moral compass points to a different north than
their maker's, viz: sometimes what's justifiable in the eyes of humanity isn't
justifiable in the eyes of God.

There's a rather humorous scene in Dante's Inferno where these two guys
who knew each other in life are quarreling over who deserves Hell more than
the other; which is pretty silly when it's considered that both are in the same
place and on the same level.

I rather suspect that quite a few folks sincerely believe God has made a big
mistake sending them down there. In their judicious estimation; others
deserve it for sure, but not them.
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“An old Scottish preacher had to go past a glass factory each day on his way
to the church. On one occasion he had a little extra time, and since the factory
door was open, he decided to look inside. There before him was a large, blazing
furnace. The minister gazed into the white, blue, and purple mass of liquid
flame, and the intense heat almost seared his face.

As he turned to leave, a workman standing in the shadows nearby overheard
him exclaim, ‘Ho mon! What shall Hell be like!’...

...As we know, the Lord, more than any other, warned about the danger of Hell
(Gr. gehenna) and hellfire. Most would agree this is the literal “Hell” of the Bible.
And the Lord had much to say about this realm.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...Ye serpents, ye
generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”
(Matt. 23:29,33)...​

...He adds in Mark 9:43,44 that some will “go into hell, into the fire that never
shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not [apparently a reference to the
soul], and the fire is not quenched.” If they go “into Hell,” are we not to under-
stand that Hell is a place, and not merely a state of mind?

The fire that is said never to be quenched clearly coincides with the “everlasting
fire” prepared for the devil and his angels. Furthermore, we know the fire is literal
because the Lord Himself confirmed this when He gave the interpretation of the
parable of the wheat and tares (Matt. 13:36-43)...

...But some will argue...

...the Apostle Paul gives us the most chilling description of Hell, that those
who enter through its gates will suffer everlasting destruction or loss of
wellbeing (II Thes. 1:9). They will be forever separated from the presence
of the Lord and the glory of His power.

As the old Scottish preacher exclaimed...

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FULL study:
What Will Hell Be Like?

More study:
Hell, Sheol, Hades, And The Grave
-------------------------------

Precious friends:
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!
Hell is a word used in the King James Version (as well as in the Catholic Douay Version and most older translations) to translate the Hebrew sheohl and the Greek haides. In the King James Version the word “hell” is rendered from sheohl 31 times and from haides 10 times. This version is not consistent, however, since sheohl is also translated 31 times “grave” and 3 times “pit.” In the Douay Version sheohl is rendered “hell” 64 times, “pit” once, and “death” once.

In 1885, with the publication of the complete English Revised Version, the original word sheohl was in many places transliterated into the English text of the Hebrew Scriptures, though, in most occurrences, “grave” and “pit” were used, and “hell” is found some 14 times. This was a point on which the American committee disagreed with the British revisers, and so, when producing the American Standard Version (1901) they transliterated sheohl in all 65 of its appearances. Both versions transliterated haides in the Christian Greek Scriptures in all ten of its occurrences, though the Greek word Geenna (English, “Gehenna”) is rendered “hell” throughout, as is true of many other modern translations.

Concerning this use of “hell” to translate these original words from the Hebrew and Greek, Vine’s Expository Dictionary of Old and New Testament Words (1981, Vol. 2, p. 187) says: “HADES . . . It corresponds to ‘Sheol’ in the O.T. [Old Testament]. In the A.V. of the O.T. [Old Testament] and N.T. [New Testament], it has been unhappily rendered ‘Hell.’”

Collier's Encyclopedia (1986, Vol. 12, p. 28) says concerning “Hell”: “First it stands for the Hebrew Sheol of the Old Testament and the Greek Hades of the Septuagint and New Testament. Since Sheol in Old Testament times referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggested no moral distinctions, the word ‘hell,’ as understood today, is not a happy translation.”

It is, in fact, because of the way that the word “hell” is understood today that it is such an unsatisfactory translation of these original Bible words. Webster's Third New International Dictionary, unabridged, under “Hell” says: “fr[om] . . . helan to conceal.” The word “hell” thus originally conveyed no thought of heat or torment but simply of a ‘covered over or concealed place.’ In the old English dialect the expression “helling potatoes” meant, not to roast them, but simply to place the potatoes in the ground or in a cellar.

The meaning given today to the word “hell” is that portrayed in Dante's Divine Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost, which meaning is completely foreign to the original definition of the word. The idea of a “hell” of fiery torment, however, dates back long before Dante or Milton.

“Hellfire” has been a basic teaching in Christendom for many centuries. It is understandable why The Encyclopedia Americana (1956, Vol. XIV, p. 81) said: “Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.” Nevertheless, such transliteration and consistent rendering does enable the Bible student to make an accurate comparison of the texts in which these original words appear and, with open mind, thereby to arrive at a correct understanding of their true significance.

So he point is Sheol, Hades, Hell actually referred simply to the abode of the dead and suggests no moral distinctions. Hell isn't a place of fiery torment where persons are alive screaming in pain because of fire. No matter which word you use, the Hebrew word Sheol, or the Greek word Hades, or the English word Hell, each of these words refer simply to the abode of the dead where people sleep in death until the resurrection.

When fire is mentioned in the Holy Scriptures it indicates complete destruction, not eternal torment; for instance, in the text at 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9: “And to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with the angels of his power: in a flame of fire, giving vengeance to them who know not God and who obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. Who shall suffer eternal punishment in destruction, from the face of the Lord and from the glory of his power.” Here “destruction” does not mean spoiling or damaging. When God destroys or burns something, he puts it completely out of existence.
 

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Yeah, well, it's impossible for God to literally burn a person for eternity, because human beings don't have souls, they are souls, Genesis 2:7 shows us that. Genesis 2:7 doesn't say God gave the flesh and blood human body a living soul that he formed from the dust of the ground, instead Genesis 2:7 says that God took dust from the ground and formed a flesh and blood human body, then he blew the breath(spirit) of life into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. This scripture shows that the breath(spirit) of life, separately, on it's own, without it being in the flesh and blood human body isn't a living soul or living person. It's the flesh and blood human body that becomes the living soul or living person, after God blows the breath(spirit) of life into the flesh and blood human body.
 

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God warned them in Gen 2:17 that if they ate from the tree of knowledge that they would become candidates for the Second Death which is the prospect for all who turn away from God and His statutes at the time of the final judgement for all of mankind.

Do you know what actions we can take to overcome this outcome?
 

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FAQ: What is meant by soul?

REPLY: Soul began appearing in the Bible in the book of Genesis by the
Hebrew word nephesh (neh'-fesh) which isn't unique to human life. Its first
appearance is at Gen 1:20-21 in reference to aqua creatures and winged
creatures; again at Gen 1:24 as terra creatures; viz: cattle, creepy crawlies,
and wild beasts; and again in Gen 2:7 as the human creature; and yet again
at Gen 9:10 to classify every living thing aboard Noah's ark.

* God is said to have a soul. (Lev 26:11, Lev 26:30, Judg 10:16, Isa 42:1,
Jer 32:41, and Zech 11:8)

Soul is somewhat ambiguous but basically refers to consciousness, self
awareness, and individuality. It's sometimes a reference to one's heart, e.g.
Gen 34:3, and to the core of one's being, e.g. Gen 27:4.

All in all, soul is just another way of referring to that part of sentient life that
we call "self" which can be roughly defined as the who that you are.

Jesus' followers can expect to retain their souls when they pass on, but
things are not looking good for the lost. According to Matt 10:28, people's
souls survive normal death, but do not survive Hell fire. That fact gives me
pause to question whether people condemned to the lake of fire-- depicted
by Rev 20:11-15 --will be aware of their circumstances in an environment
that destroys both soul and body.
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Deut 34:5-6 . . Moses the servant of The Lord died there in the land of
Moab, according to the word of The Lord. And He buried him in the valley in
the land of Moab, opposite Beth-peor; but no man knows his burial place to
this day.

A very curious scene unfolded during Moses' burial.

Jude 1:9 . . Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the Devil and
argued about the body of Moses, did not dare to accuse him of blaspheme,
but said: "The Lord rebuke you."

* Though the passage above shows God responsible for Moses' burial, the
actual labor was apparently assigned.

Anyway; if the Devil would interfere with the burial of a holy man like Moses,
then I think we can safely assume he (or one of his minions) probably
interferes with the burials of ordinary folk too; and I should think the
smartest way for him to interfere is to ensure the minister comes out with
nothing useful in his eulogy; but instead with the usual mushy rhetoric by
which nobody hearing it can be saved. (Just goes to show that the Devil is
not above walking over the bones of the dead to get what he wants.)
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theirs misunderstandings about hell and the lake of fire. Luke chapter 16, Jesus gave us a analogy of Richman and Lazarus. Both died the same time. Lazarus went to paradise. And Richman went to hell. Understand this. There's a Gulf separating both sides of paradise and hell. Those in hell, are the wicked or spirtualty dead. They are walking around in shame and sadness. There waiting for judgement day. Those in paradise are have eternal life. They made it. Why did Richman man end up in hell, called sheol. Because he didn't repent, and pride, self gratification and was self absorbed. What about Lazarus?? What did Jesus teach in Matthew chapter 18??. 18:3. And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into kingdom of heaven. Humility. The rest is self explanatory. Now the lake of fire. Read revelation chapter 20. Those who names are not written in lamb's book of life. Those deemed unworthy will follow satan into lake of fire.
 

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God prohibits dishonesty.

Lev 19:11 . . You shall not deal falsely, neither lie one to another.

I think it's probably safe to posit that more liars are now, and more liars will
be, in Hell than anybody else simply because deceit, deception, fraud, fibs,
cover-ups, dissembling, cheating, false impressions, pretense, and half
truths are far more common.

Rev 21:8 . . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

Living in a world of liars below shouldn't be much different than living in a
world of liars up here so that folks who end up down there should fit right in;
requiring only minimal adjustment.
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“An old Scottish preacher had to go past a glass factory each day on his way
to the church. On one occasion he had a little extra time, and since the factory
door was open, he decided to look inside. There before him was a large, blazing
furnace. The minister gazed into the white, blue, and purple mass of liquid
flame, and the intense heat almost seared his face.

As he turned to leave, a workman standing in the shadows nearby overheard
him exclaim, ‘Ho mon! What shall Hell be like!’...

...As we know, the Lord, more than any other, warned about the danger of Hell
(Gr. gehenna) and hellfire. Most would agree this is the literal “Hell” of the Bible.
And the Lord had much to say about this realm.

“Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!...Ye serpents, ye
generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?”
(Matt. 23:29,33)...​

...He adds in Mark 9:43,44 that some will “go into hell, into the fire that never
shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not [apparently a reference to the
soul], and the fire is not quenched.” If they go “into Hell,” are we not to under-
stand that Hell is a place, and not merely a state of mind?

The fire that is said never to be quenched clearly coincides with the “everlasting
fire” prepared for the devil and his angels. Furthermore, we know the fire is literal
because the Lord Himself confirmed this when He gave the interpretation of the
parable of the wheat and tares (Matt. 13:36-43)...

...But some will argue...

...the Apostle Paul gives us the most chilling description of Hell, that those
who enter through its gates will suffer everlasting destruction or loss of
wellbeing (II Thes. 1:9). They will be forever separated from the presence
of the Lord and the glory of His power.

As the old Scottish preacher exclaimed...

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FULL study:
What Will Hell Be Like?

More study:
Hell, Sheol, Hades, And The Grave
-------------------------------

Precious friends:
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided!
how long do you think one would last in such intense heat?
 

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Hell is done and over with according to Revelation 20.
 

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One of my favorite lines from the movie "Titanic" is when Mr. Ismay protests
that the ship can't sink; and Mr. Andrews responds: She's made of iron, sir!
I assure you, she can... and she will. It is a mathematical certainty.

There are folks at large all across the internet, and around the globe,
sincerely believing that Hell isn't a place of conscious suffering. They, like
Mr. Ismay, will be utterly stunned and bewildered to the limits of human
endurance to discover it's exactly that.
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Hell will be the worst prison ever, with the worst beings who ever lived, with no parole, "forever and ever".