When a Nation Becomes Possessed

[historyb]

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possessed, or highly diabolically oppressed. I know that sounds like an extremist conclusion from a priest who “finds a devil under every rock.” Perhaps an accusation of “possession” from a conservative to a liberal is as unfair, goofy, unfounded, mindless and overused as a liberal calling a conservative “racist” for no good reason at all. But that is why I included the above examples showing the difference between Communism and the French Revolution: In communism, satan took over a nation in a stoic manner of silent atheism. In the French Revolution, satan took over a nation in making people live and act in an uncontrolled rage.

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possesses, or highly oppressed. For one, our 100 years of sexual sins and abortion have caught up to us. People screaming “racist!” at non-racists like Trump and Tucker without any evidence and without any interest in honest discussion first seemed to me to be the cause of insanity in our country. But now I see such insanity is the symptom (not the cause) of such insanity. Such insanity has grown in the minds of Americans already ratifying their consciences under 50 years of killing of unborn children.

When a Nation Becomes Possessed
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This is a great article I thought about how this nation can and is becoming possessed by satan

 

[farouk]

Shows the great need for wide, personal Bible reading and prayer.

 

[historyb]

Here is another good similar article:

The great wound in the world is that we are unhappy and we blame others for what is wrong with the world. Blaming others means that if we want to put the world right we must get rid of the ones who are the problem. The logic continues to force us to not only blame others, but to try to get rid of them, and the more frustrated we are in not being able to get rid of them (because maybe they are bigger and richer and stronger than us) the more we drift into irrational rage and murderous violence.

When this happens anyone can be the victim–anyone can be the scapegoat. History has shown that the Christians are ones who are attacked for they are the lambs–the sacrificial lambs.

What causes the irrational rage? Demon possession is part of the problem, but we needn’t suggest that the supernatural is the whole problem. Human evil produces violence. I have written here explaining how each one of the seven deadly sins leads to irrational rage and violence. When humanity indulges in sin it leads to irrational rage and violence, and because irrational rage always attaches itself to an innocent victim (that’s why it’s evil) the sin will always spiral downward into rage and murder.

Here’s an example.

Let’s say a boy was conceived in a moment of drunken lust. The father disappears. The mother hates being pregnant and attempts an abortion. In the womb the child knows nothing but hatred, stress, fear and loathing. He is born to a distressed and broken woman who can’t care for him. Let’s imagine that she is a drug addict who takes out her own rage and frustration on the child. So he is neglected, beaten, blamed and rejected. What kind of a man will he turn out to be? It doesn’t take much thinking to see how sin produces rage and violence.

When this individual story is multiplied many times over no wonder our whole world is erupting in mindless chaos, violence and hatred. For decades Americans have indulged in sins they did not think really mattered.

• We indulged in greed…”That doesn’t really hurt anybody! Except the poor, the disadvantaged, the unemployed the unemployable and the exploited workers
• We indulged in lust…”That doesn’t really hurt anybody!” Except for the broken hearts, broken homes, broken lives, victims of pornography, sex abuse and abortion.
• We indulged in pride…”That’s harmless!” Just a bit of strutting and boasting.” – No. Pride is the core evil that set us up as rivals. Read Immortal Combat to fully understand.
• We indulged in envy…”That just an inner sin. It doesn’t matter that much.” – Sorry. It leads to resentment, rivalry and revenge which kills
• We indulged in wrath…which leads to violence
• We indulged in gluttony…which kills the true and proper love of all things
• We indulged in sloth…which kills the human spirit and is most often linked with the other six.

The Result of Irrational Rage

 

[lforrest]

There are definitely demons at work, their influence and nature I don't fully know.

Marxism is straight from the pits of hell, as Marx himself was a satanist. The Marxist ideology is predicated on lies.

If one wishes to be free of such ideologies I'm convinced that a love for the truth is the key.

 

[Yan]

The works of the demons had started since mankind consuming the forbidden tree of life and tree knowledge of good & evil (Genesis 3) which is those are from Kabbalah teaching. Those tree knowledge of good & evil were used in our psychological study in every university and also another fruit of those kabbalah was found in other science based of current modern knowledge such as astronomy, astrology, math, physics, etc. So, all those current "science" had made us (human) feels like being God as the creators of all things; so from this fruit will make those elites who ruled this world (Revelation 18:23) will act like god (Genesis 3:22). That's why in ancient Babylonians, Nimrod and Asherah was called as gods deity but they're called as an evil gods (fallen angels). No wonder since a long ago civilians are their prey, as Abraham himself was lived as an ordinary civilians and Nimrod lived as government ruler of Babylonians.

Many artists and Hollywood actors also had eaten the forbidden tree of Adam & Eve :
- What is Kabbalah? 2000 Years of Mysticism Explained | Keen Articles

 

[Hidden In Him]

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possessed, or highly diabolically oppressed. I know that sounds like an extremist conclusion from a priest who “finds a devil under every rock.” Perhaps an accusation of “possession” from a conservative to a liberal is as unfair, goofy, unfounded, mindless and overused as a liberal calling a conservative “racist” for no good reason at all. But that is why I included the above examples showing the difference between Communism and the French Revolution: In communism, satan took over a nation in a stoic manner of silent atheism. In the French Revolution, satan took over a nation in making people live and act in an uncontrolled rage.

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possesses, or highly oppressed. For one, our 100 years of sexual sins and abortion have caught up to us. People screaming “racist!” at non-racists like Trump and Tucker without any evidence and without any interest in honest discussion first seemed to me to be the cause of insanity in our country. But now I see such insanity is the symptom (not the cause) of such insanity. Such insanity has grown in the minds of Americans already ratifying their consciences under 50 years of killing of unborn children.

When a Nation Becomes Possessed
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This is a great article I thought about how this nation can and is becoming possessed by satan

This right here is a good quote from it as well:

The global screaming and hatred and rage against science and reason (yes, I wrote against, not for, science and reason) has now filled the throats of those living in an unearthly madness. They rage against anything and anybody they disagree with, with the cry: “racist!” having no idea what that word even means anymore. They yell at people without a mask without studying the case fatality rates or the use of inhaled steroids as a simple solution to coronavirus. The fact is: The left doesn’t care about faith or reason anymore. They only want the outside society to have as much disorder as their interior lives.

This rage and lawlessness that is now building within American society was prophesied well in advance, and when it finally is unleashed on our society it will be dreadful indeed. But out of it is going to come an army (Joel 2), and it is going to march on the enemy's strongholds like never before.

So I chose to look on the positives in all this. I think that has to be the biggest takeaway. As the scripture states, "Guard your heart, for out of it flow the issues of life."

 

[Giuliano]

I think I spot a spirit of fear. . . .

 

[DPMartin]

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possessed, or highly diabolically oppressed. I know that sounds like an extremist conclusion from a priest who “finds a devil under every rock.” Perhaps an accusation of “possession” from a conservative to a liberal is as unfair, goofy, unfounded, mindless and overused as a liberal calling a conservative “racist” for no good reason at all. But that is why I included the above examples showing the difference between Communism and the French Revolution: In communism, satan took over a nation in a stoic manner of silent atheism. In the French Revolution, satan took over a nation in making people live and act in an uncontrolled rage.

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possesses, or highly oppressed. For one, our 100 years of sexual sins and abortion have caught up to us. People screaming “racist!” at non-racists like Trump and Tucker without any evidence and without any interest in honest discussion first seemed to me to be the cause of insanity in our country. But now I see such insanity is the symptom (not the cause) of such insanity. Such insanity has grown in the minds of Americans already ratifying their consciences under 50 years of killing of unborn children.

When a Nation Becomes Possessed
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This is a great article I thought about how this nation can and is becoming possessed by satan

though one can relate its nothing more then man returning to its vomit. but this is that time spoken of. the Lord has been getting Israel reestablished and the influence of the Lord in the world will shift there. it most certainly is moving away from places like the US of A.

but green slime possessed, na, its human nature without the influence of God's nature. your catholic, what was rome like when guys like Peter and Paul were at work? it was acceptable for people to give their child to a wealthy influential, what we would call pedophile today, for their own personal gains. look at what was normal in other lands explorers would witness that can be unspeakable.


its human nature which is nothing more then animal nature. which will return to the days of Noah were there was:


Gen 6:5　 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.　

that is the destination of man.

 

[historyb]

but green slime possessed, na, its human nature without the influence of God's nature.

Ghost busters reference

you catholic what was rome like when guys like Peter and Paul were at work? it was acceptable for people to give their child to a wealthy influential what we would call pedophile today for their own personal gains. look at what was normal in other lands explorers would witness that can be unspeakable.

Not Catholic. Check my signature

 

[bukka]

I think I spot a spirit of fear. . . .

This is an interesting thread, but no antidote to the fear has been offered. The virtue needed here is fortitude.

Christians have the answer. We must follow our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, in all things.

We must practice faith, hope and charity.

We must practice the civic, or cardinal, virtues of prudence, justice, temperance and fortitude.

If one is imprudent in the matter of justice, such as in racial and economic matters, social justice in other words, one should also expect to be lacking in fortitude. This is because sinning against others, in being unjust towards them, one must, inevitably, descend into fear, for those who have been sinned against will seek to strike back eventually. They will, also, still be seeking justice and a redress of their grievances. If one doesn't stop sinning, one must live cowardly, for the sinner must fear God and man.

And of course, if prudence, justice, and fortitude are neglected, so must also be temperance. Those who are, many times, sinners, seek escape in drugs, alcohol, sex, etc.

So to have good civic virtues, one must practice them all in faith, hope and charity, walking in the path of the Lord.

 

[DPMartin]

Ghost busters reference

Not Catholic. Check my signature

sorry I made the mistake of thinking you were interested in the subject at hand, not your self and what you think we should think of you.
don't care about your signature, all the other junk on your posting says you are. no wonder you have to make a point of it.

 

[Giuliano]

This is an interesting thread, but no antidote to the fear has been offered. The virtue needed here is fortitude.

Christians have the answer. We must follow our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, in all things.

We must practice faith, hope and charity.

We must practice the civic, or cardinal, virtues of prudence, justice, temperance and fortitude.

If one is imprudent in the matter of justice, such as in racial and economic matters, social justice in other words, one should also expect to be lacking in fortitude. This is because sinning against others, in being unjust towards them, one must, inevitably, descend into fear, for those who have been sinned against will seek to strike back eventually. They will, also, still be seeking justice and a redress of their grievances. If one doesn't stop sinning, one must live cowardly, for the sinner must fear God and man.

And of course, if prudence, justice, and fortitude are neglected, so must also be temperance. Those who are, many times, sinners, seek escape in drugs, alcohol, sex, etc.

So to have good civic virtues, one must practice them all in faith, hope and charity, walking in the path of the Lord.

Your post reminds me of:

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
19 We love him, because he first loved us.
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

 

[Joseph77]

This is an interesting thread, but no antidote to the fear has been offered.

Are you saying this is not the answer >>> (when achieved) >>>

Christians have the answer.

What does Jesus say about fear ? (throughout the NT)

 

[bukka]

Your post reminds me of:

1 John 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.
19 We love him, because he first loved us.
20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

That scripture is wonderfully to the point about how one should deal with fear. You've made very concrete my abstract answer in this thread. Thanks for sharing this Giuliano.

Are you saying this is not the answer >>> (when achieved) >>>

What does Jesus say about fear ? (throughout the NT)

It appears that Giuliano has answered that for the both of us, Joseph77. It was a fine answer, wasn't it?

 

[Scoot]

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possessed, or highly diabolically oppressed.

My apologies. I have not read the article mentioned at this point.

If I may though I would like make reference to Daniel 10 where it appears as though there can be designated demonic principalities over nations (such as Persia and Greece). From my limited outside view of America, it appears as though once the country looked to God, but over time has kicked God out (from a governing aspect - I acknowledge there are still many godly individuals). Prayers at school one of the more notable occurrences.

If God no longer dwells in those locations, does that leave an opening / vacuum for other non-spiritual influences? Can Mat 12:44 apply in these instances too? Instead of God, does the nation now have demonic influence in the majority of it's classrooms (let alone other places too)? Are people now taught lies instead of truth? Is this why we see evil called good, and lies promoted above truth?

By an outside observation of the fruit that is coming from these institutions, I'd say it's plausible at the least. With the increase in toys, games and movies that 'play' with the occultic realm opening up countless people to who-knows-what, the idea that half of the country is now possessed, or as you say diabolically oppressed seems well within reach of possibility. (From my personal experiences I have significant suspicions that many Christians are demonically oppressed as well - while too being deceived into believing their oppression is medical as opposed to demonic - suicidal thoughts not being the least, but that's another topic)...

But is our attention to stop and focus on things that are evil, things that are cruel, things that are wicked? Or, whilst being aware of these things, and hating them to our core - are we to focus on things that are honest, just and pure (Phil 4:8), and to wage ware in the spiritual realm Eph 6:12?

I would never oppose someone for pointing out wickedness in a situation - we need watchmen. However I believe our journey doesn't stop when we note evil - that's just the beginning of our journey / response.

So to me - my thought is "Yes - I believe your statement is highly likely.... but my encouragement is to focus on "what do we do about it and what do we change in our lives now" from a personal perspective?

My personal conviction is that if the nation(s) are in this place to me I suspect that it could be a direct reflection on the current state of the church in those nations - and it's really us that we need to focus on and get right - and not the circumstance.

 

[Joseph77]

My personal conviction is that if the nation(s) are in this place to me I suspect that it could be a direct reflection on the current state of the church in those nations - and it's really us that we need to focus on and get right - and not the circumstance.

IN the countries with the worst persecution, there may be found the purest, finest, most right and true, fellowship ('underground') .....
As for "the church in those nations"..... that's a much smaller topic, unless you want to discuss the false church, but I don't think that's what you want, and it is not likely to be profitable.

 

[Scoot]

IN the countries with the worst persecution, there may be found the purest, finest, most right and true, fellowship ('underground') .....
As for "the church in those nations"..... that's a much smaller topic, unless you want to discuss the false church, but I don't think that's what you want, and it is not likely to be profitable.

Quite true Joseph - you make a good point there, and thanks for pointing that out!

I do note that these nations you speak of are different - in that they weren't Christian nations to start with, so there wasn't that legacy to fall from. I fully acknowledge your point though and my initial statement is unfair and reflects on those unnecessarily. Thanks for picking this up. Maybe I should rephrase to "I can't help but think that the state of the nations that used to be strongly Christian that has fallen to wickedness is a reflection on the state of the Church in those nations"?

My logic behind this is that I just see that the state of the Church has significantly declined and become more worldly in the nations that are falling away... (I'm generalising -I know there are still good strongly convicted Christians in the USA, Australia and elsewhere too), but I don't think it's a far stretch to think that the nations have become more wicked over the last half century or so, and the church generally speaking has been watered down in that decline as well. Conversely - I can't help but think that if the Church (in general) had have remained much stronger throughout - that the state of the nation could be quite different.

ie: If I was to compare the moral values of the average Christian these days to the moral values of a non christian 50 years ago, I think in many aspects the non-christian from 50 years ago may appear to be more moral than the modern day average Christian? As such - isn't it possible that the Church have something to answer for, for the state and decline in the nation?

 

[Enoch111]

I now believe we are at the point where half of America is possessed, or highly diabolically oppressed.

I would tend to agree with you 100%, based upon the actual evidence.

 

[Joseph77]

I can't help but think that if the Church (in general) had have remained much stronger throughout - that the state of the nation could be quite different.

ie: If I was to compare the moral values of the average Christian these days to the moral values of a non christian 50 years ago, I think in many aspects the non-christian from 50 years ago may appear to be more moral than the modern day average Christian? As such - isn't it possible that the Church have something to answer for, for the state and decline in the nation?

With so much mis-information in the history of religion and the nations (including the usa) , it is awkward (for man impossible) reaching the truth, but by continually seeking the truth, it is God's Promise, that the truth may be found , and the truth will set us free.