Who is the Word of God, the Word of Life?

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The inquiry at hand is about the identity of the Word of God, the Word of Life.

Let's look in the 1 Epistle of John at the first three verses, and see what can be learned.

John writing to the believers in his day in age saying;

1Jn 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

One may ask the question, what was from the beginning, which the apostles had heard, and had seen with their eyes, and had looked upon, and that their hands had handled, of the Word of life?

Was it not the fleshly body of the Lord Jesus Christ, that Apostles had traveled around with for the past three years, until his death on the cross, being buried for three days in which some of the Apostles were going to go on back to fishing again (John 21:3-4); until they realized that Jesus had visited to them which they had journeyed back to Jerusalem and stayed with the resurrected Jesus Christ whom God had raised from the dead by the Holy Spirit of God (Romans 6:10-11).

I believe that from the context of scripture, that Jesus spoke spirit and life (John 6:63), so he can be seen as the Word of life.

What does that mean about that which was from the beginning?

In Genesis 1:1 Moses writes the very first verse saying In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 1:3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

You can see here, that when God had created the heavens and the earth; before the earth was even formed, and around it was empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep (perhaps earth was just simply all water), and the Holy Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Then God said, Let there be light, and there was light. So what is interesting about this? Think about this for a moment. When you speak to another person, you speak words to them. These words can be used to create stories, and tell stories about ones life and experience, those words are part of your own individual heart. When God spoke, the Word which came from God created. Did you know that before?

Let's look at another one perspective of John, by going to the Gospel of John and reading a few verses from there.

In the Gospel of John, the writer who spent his life with the apostles and the Lord Jesus Christ for three years, and continued to have faith after his resurrection wrote, in John 1 saying.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

Do you see how in the Beginning with God, was the Word that was with God in which through that word God spoke; God allowed the Word to create what was on the Fathers heart, which of course is always for a function and purpose to look towards the one whom created all things, in which you now obtain access to the Father, through the Word; that became the Lord Jesus Christ.

John writes in John 1:14 saying The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

You can see here that from the beginning, until the moment the the Word has been sent by God, became flesh leaving behind the former residence that was in the beginning now having become a man, a man whom is name is Jesus, but also Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23
“Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means ‘God is with us.’”

In the Gospel of Matthew, you can see here that when Mary would conceive, She would give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means 'God is with us', or 'God with us'.

How can that be if the Word now had became flesh, be called by a second name that means God with us? It was because the Father was able to help the Lord Jesus Christ, by and through the Holy Spirit of God, in which lead to Jesus by the fleshly nature to overcome sin, and temptation from Satan, and to even face the cross denying himself to allow himself to continue to live and decided to die for all of mankind so that all would be able to have access to the Father, by and through the Spirit in the same way now today in which God writes on the hearts and minds of those whom are his (Hebrews 10:16).

Therefore Jesus Christ, was the Word of God, and the Word of God was the soul of Jesus in a sense, which that soul was from God, and that soul always thought about the Fathers will, and the Word of God wouldn't let the Lord Jesus Christ by the flesh be overcome with evil; because that body was going to be a sacrifice for all sins (1 John 2:2).

Lastly, Jesus was the very expressed image of God because of the soul with-in the body of the Lord which was the Word of God who was with God in the beginning.

1Jn 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us

John goes on in his first epistle saying (For the life was manifested and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, was manifested unto us. Speaking of Jesus Christ whom had the words of eternal life (John 6:68).

Philippians 2:
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

Paul explains the makeup of Christ by the spiritual sense of being the Word of God, God with them, God with us, Immanuel. The Lord Jesus, because of the Word of God, made himself nothing, by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in now human likeness. Being found in the appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross!

Because of these things, and the Love of the Lord Jesus Christ for his Father, and for others. God exalted him to the highest place and give him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the Lord to the glory of God the Father.

1Jn 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

John writes onward here in his first epistle in verse 3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that that you also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship with with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
 

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The inquiry at hand is about the identity of the Word of God, the Word of Life.

Let's look in the 1 Epistle of John at the first three verses, and see what can be learned.

John writing to the believers in his day in age saying;



One may ask the question, what was from the beginning, which the apostles had heard, and had seen with their eyes, and had looked upon, and that their hands had handled, of the Word of life?

Was it not the fleshly body of the Lord Jesus Christ, that Apostles had traveled around with for the past three years, until his death on the cross, being buried for three days in which some of the Apostles were going to go on back to fishing again (John 21:3-4); until they realized that Jesus had visited to them which they had journeyed back to Jerusalem and stayed with the resurrected Jesus Christ whom God had raised from the dead by the Holy Spirit of God (Romans 6:10-11).

I believe that from the context of scripture, that Jesus spoke spirit and life (John 6:63), so he can be seen as the Word of life.

What does that mean about that which was from the beginning?

In Genesis 1:1 Moses writes the very first verse saying In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. 1:3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

You can see here, that when God had created the heavens and the earth; before the earth was even formed, and around it was empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep (perhaps earth was just simply all water), and the Holy Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

Then God said, Let there be light, and there was light. So what is interesting about this? Think about this for a moment. When you speak to another person, you speak words to them. These words can be used to create stories, and tell stories about ones life and experience, those words are part of your own individual heart. When God spoke, the Word which came from God created. Did you know that before?

Let's look at another one perspective of John, by going to the Gospel of John and reading a few verses from there.

In the Gospel of John, the writer who spent his life with the apostles and the Lord Jesus Christ for three years, and continued to have faith after his resurrection wrote, in John 1 saying.



Do you see how in the Beginning with God, was the Word that was with God in which through that word God spoke; God allowed the Word to create what was on the Fathers heart, which of course is always for a function and purpose to look towards the one whom created all things, in which you now obtain access to the Father, through the Word; that became the Lord Jesus Christ.



You can see here that from the beginning, until the moment the the Word has been sent by God, became flesh leaving behind the former residence that was in the beginning now having become a man, a man whom is name is Jesus, but also Immanuel.



In the Gospel of Matthew, you can see here that when Mary would conceive, She would give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means 'God is with us', or 'God with us'.

How can that be if the Word now had became flesh, be called by a second name that means God with us? It was because the Father was able to help the Lord Jesus Christ, by and through the Holy Spirit of God, in which lead to Jesus by the fleshly nature to overcome sin, and temptation from Satan, and to even face the cross denying himself to allow himself to continue to live and decided to die for all of mankind so that all would be able to have access to the Father, by and through the Spirit in the same way now today in which God writes on the hearts and minds of those whom are his (Hebrews 10:16).

Therefore Jesus Christ, was the Word of God, and the Word of God was the soul of Jesus in a sense, which that soul was from God, and that soul always thought about the Fathers will, and the Word of God wouldn't let the Lord Jesus Christ by the flesh be overcome with evil; because that body was going to be a sacrifice for all sins (1 John 2:2).

Lastly, Jesus was the very expressed image of God because of the soul with-in the body of the Lord which was the Word of God who was with God in the beginning.



John goes on in his first epistle saying (For the life was manifested and we have seen it, and bear witness, and show unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, was manifested unto us. Speaking of Jesus Christ whom had the words of eternal life (John 6:68).



Paul explains the makeup of Christ by the spiritual sense of being the Word of God, God with them, God with us, Immanuel. The Lord Jesus, because of the Word of God, made himself nothing, by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in now human likeness. Being found in the appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross!

Because of these things, and the Love of the Lord Jesus Christ for his Father, and for others. God exalted him to the highest place and give him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is the Lord to the glory of God the Father.



John writes onward here in his first epistle in verse 3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that that you also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship with with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
Have you come to see, who the Word of God was, and is?

Jesus whom has the words eternal life,

The Words of Eternal Life - John 6:60-71​

60 When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?” 61 But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples were grumbling about this, said to them, “Do you take offense at this? 62 Then what if you were to see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before? 63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. 64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning who those were who did not believe, and who it was who would betray him.) 65 And he said, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless it is granted him by the Father.” 66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

After Jesus had spoke about eating his flesh and drinking his blood.

After many people heard because Jesus said this in the synagogue.

When many of his disciples heard it, they said, "This is a hard saying; who can listen to it?" - The reason why, because of Jesus speaking saying and talking about eating his flesh and drinking his blood. They did not understand spiritual things as of yet, and they are listening to the Lord not understanding but they would find out what it meant after they received the Holy Spirit from God, which Jesus promised to send to them which would come from the Father.

When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured as this saying, he said unto him, does drinking my blood, and eating my flesh offend you? What does it mean when Jesus says these things? I personally believe that is partaking in the life and death of Christ, by remembering His life, by reading and learning about Him. Because learning from the Lord today, influence spiritual growth because now today, the Holy Spirit of God, and the Spirit of God dwell with-in believers when they come to the Lord Jesus Christ and have a renewed changed relationship now with God, whom adopts us and becomes our Father.

Jesus goes on to say after asking does this offend you - What and if you shall seen the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth the flesh profits nothing; the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Jesus openly explains that he was going to ascend in front of people, back up to the heavens to be with God. By asking the question "What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?".

He goes on to explain that the spirit that quickenth (makes alive) the flesh profits nothing. Jesus here explains that the spirit is something to seek after to ask the Father in heaven to help you by the spirit that is give, that makes a person more alive; having relationship with God. The Flesh itself profits nothing, compared to the spirit.

Then finally, Jesus says here the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life.

So the very Word of God from with-in the Lord Jesus Christ, and the words which were spoke from the Father who is Spirit, are words that are spirit, and they are life.

Therefore Jesus goes onward to explain to the surrounding people; by saying But there are some of you that believe not.

For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not and who should betray him. - The Spiritual discernment of the Messiah.

After saying this, he concluded by saying "Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, expect it were given unto my Father."

Faith comes by hearing and hearing of the word of God, and growing in whom God is, and whom the Father had sent. Only good things come from the Father of the Lights.

From them on many of those who were traveling along with him as learning under him, went back, and walked no more with him.
 

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Part 2 of Post #2,

Joh 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

Joh 6:68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.


With all of this, Jesus said unto the twelve, "Will ye also go away?"

Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou has the words of eternal life.

What is eternal life? It is age-during life, that comes to a believer who is born again in Christ becoming a new creature and creation by the spirit in which one becomes adopted into the Family of God, by placing faith and trust in the Father, and in the Son of God whom came, died, and was buried again which is the power of God unto salvation. As this person grows and continues to seek out and learn in faith of what God has to offer by and through the knowledge that has been given from the Bible, they experience newness of life, as they build their trust, and fortify their faith in the one whom has shown Mercy on the world, by and through the Lord Jesus Christ. What comes is a good relationship with praying for others, and forgiving others, and to ask the Father to help you in your life by the spirit. (Luke 11:13)
 

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I'll add to what you posted (if thats ok?) It's bible study but not sure if you want to go this alone. or do not mind additions to this. But If you would rather now I can just delete the post, no biggy.

Jesus is shown as the eternal life that was with the Father also

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. (1 John 1:2)

1 John 1:1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

Our hands have handled

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

For the life was manifested

1 John 1:2 (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

The one true God and Jesus Christ

1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

That eternal life, which was with the Father
 

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I love that you do these things @Verily. Thank you for adding and your contribution to the study. I don’t mind anyone sharing! Your presentation is great and it’s always going to up to individuals to test all things for themselves if course. I come from a stand point of subjective Christianity where it’s individual choice to seek or not. They pick and choose what applies to them or does not. All things are lawful but not everything is beneficial and no one is should ever believe me. They should seek it out for themselves which is difficult to do. Especially when your flesh gets weary but the spirit is willing. As a side note I use to do these thing a lot and I’m hoping by the grace of God to get back into doing so; as in my life I was a drug abuser; an I think I’m still sort of recovering from it; though it’s been five months of no meth and going on three months with no weed. Very blessed and thankful; you are an awesome individual who does what they can when it comes to studying! You keep going and seeking for truth in order to help people in their faith towards the Father and the Son of God.

I love all the individuals in the forums; though sometimes conflict arises it’s best if people try to abide in Christ; and most certainly not get into their emotions to much on any given subject; I assume all of us are seeking for truth, some may seek to seem righteous among others, some may seek traditions, some may just seek for validation from others etc. “All things are lawful but not all things are beneficial.” Yahavah is the one whom should be sought after, in faith and by the spirit he may guide us to truth which brings us liberty in the Messiah.
 
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I think I prefer the bible study type atmosphere, where you can just post verses (which can often, by themselves show how they link between themselves). Without using our own words to assist. I personally prefer to grow in knowledge without adding our own words. They can often be twisty, and used as an attempt to steer His words more than they ought to.

And praise God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ that you have been clean from doing drugs for as long a you have, may He strengthen you in his grace and continually keep you. Peace
 

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Hey thank you,

I love going verse by verse. Doing segments of chapters with in books. I use to have many on YouTube as it’s a method which profitable. Explaining things hopefully by the spirit though there may be things I personally get wrong however we should throw away what’s bad and keep what’s good. As long as things are done by seeking God first and abiding in Christ being helped by the spirit there is a lot that be gained off doing so. When it comes to gospels and studying there are many spiritual lessons to be gained even in the old testament and then you have things like eschatology which are in need of being explained to understand especially with me being a westerner and the books themselves coming from the east. So I like to talk and try to expound on things as long as it’s not straying way off the curb; though for some I may do that because of not submitting to traditions, and coming from a stand point of the Bible not being written directly to us today. Though it’s been written for us and our spiritual wellbeing. Thank you again for your kind words @Verily.
 
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