why are some animals homosexual?

[Ronald Nolette]

Jude knew of wandering stars, those stars are planets known today.

Jude 1:13
wild waves of the sea, foaming out of their own shame; wandering stars, to whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved to the age.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Jude knew of wandering stars, those stars are planets known today.

Jude 1:13
wild waves of the sea, foaming out of their own shame; wandering stars, to whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved to the age.

Sorry, but these "wandering stars are angels Look at the context and don't just look at the two words.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Show it didn't rain and plants were watered solely from underground.

Genesis 2

King James Version

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2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

 

[amigo de christo]

Genesis 2​

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King James Version​

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2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

And if its IN the BIBLE , WE BELIEVE IT . now lift those hands and praise the LORD .

 

[BeyondET]

Sorry, but these "wandering stars are angels Look at the context and don't just look at the two words.

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

Indeed, and to describe using what they saw with their own eyes and experienced like wind and fall.

clouds, water, trees, fruit, roots, raging waves of the sea foaming on the shore, wandering stars in the blackness of night.

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear:

clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

planets orbiting the sun no doubt look like stars at night.

 

[BeyondET]

Genesis 2​

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King James Version​

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2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

That's before man, when there's a tiller no reason for it not to rain.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

 

[amigo de christo]

The question , i believe , is why are some animals homosexaul .
UHHH cause those who love that sin claim they are such .
When a man or a woman has burned in their lusts one towards another , men with men and women with women ,
THEY GONNA SEE exactly what they WANT to SEE and what they see will always JUSTIFY THIER SIN .

 

[amigo de christo]

Better known as BEING GIVEN OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND

 

[amigo de christo]

The answers can always be found in scripture .

 

[amigo de christo]

Genesis 2​

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King James Version​

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2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

Hello ronald . I have a trivia question for you . ITs a real easy one too .
WHO DETERMINES what is inquity .
humanity and the ever changing world , OR IS IT GOD ALONE .
Exactly . now raise those hands and praise the glorious LORD . For more info OPEN BIBLE and let us learn BIBLE .
Cause i know those words were INSPIRED BY GOD . YEP . NOW HIT the trenches my friend .

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Indeed, and to describe using what they saw with their own eyes and experienced like wind and fall.

clouds, water, trees, fruit, roots, raging waves of the sea foaming on the shore, wandering stars in the blackness of night.

12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear:

clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

13 Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

planets orbiting the sun no doubt look like stars at night.

Your confusion lies in the fact that Jude brought up the angels who left their first estate with the people Jude was talking about! He brings up the angels and then compares them to the people of th epresent in Judes day . Those people are clouds without water . It is not taking about the weather pre flood.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

That's before man, when there's a tiller no reason for it not to rain.

5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

So now you are filling in the blanks after that passage with your own hypotheses? And what do you have to back it up?

 

[BeyondET]

Your confusion lies in the fact that Jude brought up the angels who left their first estate with the people Jude was talking about! He brings up the angels and then compares them to the people of th epresent in Judes day . Those people are clouds without water . It is not taking about the weather pre flood.

People are not clouds, you trying to create diversions isn't working.

 

[BeyondET]

So now you are filling in the blanks after that passage with your own hypotheses? And what do you have to back it up?

The items mentioned in scripture, duh

 

[Arthur81]

The answers can always be found in scripture .

Yes the answers to all of our problems can be found there directly or sometimes indirectly. The problem is, too many wish to read their own ideas into the answers in scripture, rather than let the scripture speak for itself. Of course, you must have basic common sense and the knowledge of interpretation to know what the scriptures are talking about. Too often that is lacking, and people blather on as if they have knowledge.

 

[Arthur81]

Threads such as this are one reason the world scoffs at, and belittles the church. Those who have only worldly wisdom can see the ignorance displayed by the professing church. The idea of homosexuality as understood in our day is a modern invention. You must study scripture to have full knowledge of same sex acts in the Bible, and then see how they fit in our day. NOTE: the Bible never speaks of sexual orientation, homo- or hetero-. We are left to evaluate conduct, behavior. The Bible condemns the rape of a man of a woman. The Bible condemns the attempted rape of men by men, and of women of males. Just because the Bible condemns rape of male on male, or male on female ... that does not condemn relations between men any more than it condemns relations between man and woman. Even the king behind the kjv has three lovers, surprised?

 

[amigo de christo]

Yes the answers to all of our problems can be found there directly or sometimes indirectly. The problem is, too many wish to read their own ideas into the answers in scripture, rather than let the scripture speak for itself. Of course, you must have basic common sense and the knowledge of interpretation to know what the scriptures are talking about. Too often that is lacking, and people blather on as if they have knowledge.

They sure do blather on and on and on .
I mean the nonsense i hear from some churches .
Trying to do anything and everything to justify man with man or woman with woman . I HEAR YA MY FRIEND .
They blah , blah blah blah blah , ON and on and on . But have long forgotten something .
THE WORLD dont determine what is right or wrong , THE WORLD dont determine what is inquity
GOD DOES . OPEN THEM BIBLES and let us get busy LEARNING THAT GOD and HIS CHRIST and the doctrine
of the apostels too . THANKS for such a wonderful reminder arthur , your right many do BLATHER ON and ON and ON .

 

[amigo de christo]

Threads such as this are one reason the world scoffs at, and belittles the church. Those who have only worldly wisdom can see the ignorance displayed by the professing church. The idea of homosexuality as understood in our day is a modern invention. You must study scripture to have full knowledge of same sex acts in the Bible, and then see how they fit in our day. NOTE: the Bible never speaks of sexual orientation, homo- or hetero-. We are left to evaluate conduct, behavior. The Bible condemns the rape of a man of a woman. The Bible condemns the attempted rape of men by men, and of women of males. Just because the Bible condemns rape of male on male, or male on female ... that does not condemn relations between men any more than it condemns relations between man and woman. Even the king behind the kjv has three lovers, surprised?

talk about TWISTING the SCRIPS . it says they BURNED IN THEIR LUST one TOWARDS another .
MAN shall not LIE with man as he does with woman . THAT DONT MEAN RAPE DUDE .
You TWISTING THINGS. According to what i understood you to be saying , the commandment would have said
this , Man shall not RAPE a man as HE DOES A WOMAN . YEAH . exactly . IT DONT say that cause GOD condones
the rape of none . IT SAYS what it means . Man shall not have sex PEROID with another man as HE does with woman .
GOD will never HONOR the marriage of man with man or woman with woman either .

 

[amigo de christo]

The brasen nerve o some people is blasphemous .
As i am sure you will see when you read a certain response from a certain fellow .
Hint he has given himself the name of a man who became KING by pulling a sword out of a stone .
Man shall not lie with man as he does with woman .
According to that other fellow who tries to insinuate rape .
WELL he just got exposed .
I mean by his standards it would imply this . Man shall not RAPE man as he does Woman . ONLY WE GOT US A SERIOUS
problem with that interpretation , NOW DONT WE .
Cause the last time i checked GOD condones the rape of none . IT MEANS what IT SAYS .
This other king knoweth not what he speaks of ................

 

[Arthur81]

What do people use as a basis for condemning a sin labeled "sodomy"? They go to the 19th chapter of Genesis - where we find "all the people" v4... wanted to have sex with the angels they thought were men and that by force -

"And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door." (Gen 19:9 KJV)

That is attempted rape! Then go to the Apostle Paul and examine his three statements about male on male sexual sin to see what it is. I reject totally the modern translations on this and use the revered KJV followed by the RV, ASV & YLT, using the English dictionary matching closer that day's English, the 1828 Webster's -

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind," (1Cor 6:9 KJV)

"ABU'SER, n. s as z. One who abuses, in speech or behavior; one that deceives; a ravisher; a sodomite." 1 Cor 6.

"RAV'ISHER, n. 1. One that takes by violence. 2. One that forces a woman to his carnal embrace."

"For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;" (1Tim 1:10 KJV)

DEFILE, v.t. 5. To corrupt chastity; to debauch; to violate; to tarnish the purity of character by lewdness. Schechem defiled Dinah. Gen 34.
(Read Gen 34 and you see the defilement was rape.)

This is the same thing as Paul writes in Rom. 1:27, men leaving their women, perverts at heart. Read about Nero and you get the idea!

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Speaking of "king", how many know King James of the KJV had 3 male lovers in addition to his wife?

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James I & VI and his male ‘favourites’

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It does not seem that the translators of the honorable KJV were as 'homophobic' as many are today.