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  1. Sword

    Sword Well-Known Member

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    I took this quote form this thread.
    Is it OK to ask Almighty God Questions?
    And directly from this post. Is it OK to ask Almighty God Questions?

    Does any one know what the answer to what person/persons is asking?

    It would be great if the people who believe this lie would tell what they believe, then we will be able to shine some light on the lie that satan hide behind, And then will be able to expose how the church helped satan with this lies and expose both with scripture.
    I would amagine the peiople who believe it will be a little shy in comwing forward here. No one likes getting exposed. I already know many of them in here and wonder what shall they do. They already used there excuse in not reading Gods word in the healing document.
    So i really look forward to this one as they dont have to read any long documents this time.
     
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    which lie was this, specifically? ty
    yes, but one must develop these answers for themselves, and i doubt any "answers" i could give would be very satisfying.
    1)Why do I allow suffering? You mean I, Whom you doubt even exists? Read Job, and see that it is humans who are obviously in charge of the physical plane, you should be asking why humans allow suffering. Find Job's confession--it's in there--and understand it, if you want to know why I allow suffering.
    2)Because men, like Job, are not physically served by spiritual truth, and religion is a natural outgrowth, a manifestation, of human's desires; the root of all suffering. As can be observed in any child denied candy. You have a desire to know where you will spend "eternity," because you are currently bound by time, and do not understand that the desire is moot, pointless. Religion is what has arisen to serve your desire, and thwart God's Will. Ask most any "Christian" if they "know" where they will spend eternity, and compare their answer with the Book. All of the Book. Ignore the part they lead you to, and misinterpret according to their own desires. Pay attention to their actions which will always--a la Job--reveal their intentions.
    3)You are manifesting the Kingdom of Heaven on earth, and becoming better gods, better every day, despite any "news" or false prophecies to the contrary. Who reading this would prefer to live even 100 years ago?
     
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    Religion will not get us closer to God. Faith in God, when God reaches down to us, is faith, He reached down to us and gave us his son Jesus Christ.

    if you're asking the age old question of why innocent people suffer unfairly in this world, well, a lot of it has to do with sin. Adam and Eve, our ancestors, chose to listen to that lying snake Satan instead of their heavenly Father the Lord God and eat the fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. They lost their innocence, and could not stay in paradise, Eden, any more. The nature to sin is in every human being ever born, I am not sure about Christ, He was suppose to be fully human and fully divine. People are afraid to die, they think death is so horrible, the end. Jesus freed us from fear of death, He prepared a place for us in heaven. In our father's house, their are many rooms. I don't know why some people suffer for long, painful illness without dying. God teaches us wisdom through suffering. I'm not sure what you mean when you say Christians being secure of where they will spend eternity, as if they are wrong, does the Bible say something differently? I know that we must not be Christians on the outside only, but on the inside we must act like Christians, behave like Jesus Christ, be kind, loving, gentle, merciful, forgiving, caring, patient, wise, prudent, righteous sober and compassionate. Suffering is a part of life. in the case of Job, there were divine reasons, God and Satan were quarreling over Job, over whether Job would still serve and praise the Lord if he lost everything.


    Innocent people sometimes suffer from the sin and evil of bad people. To give a modern day example, the terrorist who bombed the Arianna Grande concert, especially when a lot of the fans were children, children died, some were severely injured and lost limbs, that is an example of evil attacking people, children, out having fun, evil hateful terrorist attack western culture and cause much suffering.
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    Look guys Its in th title why does God kill children? I dont believe He does. But theres a world of Christians who think he does. Where are they let them now say why ythey believe God kills children or uses satan to do His dirty work. He doesnt? The question is not why does God allow suffering.
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    Ww can be taught learn wisdom when suffering. God does not bring about our suffering. Is the point of the post.

    I never mentiond eternity.


    Is rthat what Jesus done. Is that what you seen in his ministry? Yes we are to behave like Jesus but He never ment it in the way you and the whole church thinks He ment follow me. What is the biggest thing Jesus done on a daily basis. we know He had compassion but what did He do them when He had compassion????? You missed it Do you even know what He done each time He had compassion. You never mantioned it to my surprise???
     
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    "Why does God kill children today??"

    why did God kill anyone? or is it you are trying to blame God, for one's own trust in one's own judgment of what is good?

    man died (A&E) that day, therefore in God's eyes man is dead already.


    Mat_8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

    Mat_22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

    Mat_23:27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.


    the only "Life" the Almighty is interested in the case of the earth is the souls that are born in His Holy Spirit, hence "the saved". mankind dies from receiving the life that A&E had, after they ate of the tree.

    this question always comes from those who value and expect others to value this life in the flesh more then the life of Christ, and in that expectation that others should be like them in their own judgement, they express try to deceive others to value this life in the flesh more then the life of Christ.

    God is the Judge, and as Jesus says is the One that is good, therefore the only one who is the Judge of what is good. you don't trust or believe that then you dwell in the same place you were born into when you were born into the flesh.
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    Did you even read my post ?
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    Do you have scripture for that belief system you claim God has?
     
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    I'm not sure who asked the Question: Why does God kill children today ? But I can tell you God doesn't Kill anyone today. You may ask why does God allow such things as death. But to say HE KILLS is way off base.
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    So why does God allow such things as cancer killing children?
     
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    because you must reap what you sow; it is the Law of sin and death. If you eat from a grocery store even, CAFO meat and unfermented soy jammed up every orifice, your wheat all bathed in Roundup, there is a price to pay. If you are sterile in that environment, you are blessed. :(
     
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    Why limit the subject of this entire thread? Why not include all forms of sickness while you are at it? Why does God allow children to get sick at all? The answer to your question is quite easy really. It was by one man that sin entered the world, and therefore death by sin, which passed upon all man. Also, you seem to have forgotten that God cursed the very ground you stand on that we all must consume on a daily basis to survive. Beyond this, I can also put half of the blame for the spike in diseases like cancer & diabetes on companies like Monsanto and their GMO food as a major driving force behind it as well. There is a reason why their own employees don't eat the same food they sell to us in their cafeterias, but really, the scriptural bases of the curse should suffice. If you think someones child should be exempt from the curse just because of your bleeding heart, well, sorry, too bad, suck it up. At least in scripture, it is indicated that when a child dies they are guaranteed entrance into heaven.

     
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    God doesn't kill babies - he saves them.

    It is a great misunderstanding of humanity to think of a free-fall toward death as life, when it would be better described as a slow death. The misunderstanding is one of context. We are destine for death from birth...and it is God who has come to our rescue. Those who know God have the difficult task of breaking the bad news first and the good news last, that life as we know it is not life at all, but a death sentence, making us [all] guilty of a crime we were unaware of. The "good news" is, saying we are sorry is all it takes to get off. Parents should tell the story to their children:

    "Once upon a time...there was a great King whose children did not appreciate him and were bad. So the King devised a plan for them to go to sleep and wake up in a magical place where they would learn about both good and bad, where they would have a second chance. So those children who were sorry and did not want to be bad would go to sleep again and wake up to all that is good, and those who were not sorry and preferred bad would go to sleep and wake up to all that was bad. And all little children should look at their own life in the same way."
     
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    Thats about it, why should one be afraid of death, when death is a part of life. God doesnt kill children is our doing and corrption that came about becasue of teh fall of man.
     
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    Trying to stay on topic which far to many in here struggle to do for some reason.
     
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    You were doing so well with your comments until your very last sentence!

    Where do you read that when a child dies he is guaranteed entrance into heaven?

    Your translation of Matthew 18:3-6 is in error. There the term “become as little children” MEANS to “have a child like trust.” You sound like Nicodemus in John 3:4. The thrust of Matthew 18:3-6 is in verse 6 “which believe in Me.” Compare 1 John 2:1 where John addresses the disciples as “little children.”

    Psalm 58:3-6 reads:.

    The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

    4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;

    5 Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.

    6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD.

    I hope this helped.

    To God Be The Glory
     
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    Sword Well-Known Member

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    You read it with David telling his child " You cant come to me, but I will come to you" This clearly tells us there is a time of inocence under Gods grace.

    So your teaching doesnt help. So much misteaching and misunderstanding Gods word.
     
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    "The LORD brings death and makes alive." (I Samuel 2:6)

    There is a sense in which God is responsible for the death of every human being on this planet. We are all sinners - we are all rebels who deserve nothing better than instant annihilation. God is merciful and patient, and He allows us a reasonable number of years in which to repent and serve Him - but sooner or later He executes the death sentence. We have no cause for complaint against Him if He chooses to do so 'sooner' rather than 'later'.
     
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    Personally , I think we only have a problem with it ( death, child or otherwise) if we are focussed on ' this here and now life' only.
    It is naturally earth shattering when a child dies. The parents have already painted pictures of what life with that child will be like....a fulfillment of their dreams....
    But, as has already been said...death is but a doorway into someplace better.
    My own take on it...is to fight for the child ( if sick) I don't believe we are called to just " ho hum" in the face of sickness....it is our enemy.
    In the case of my eldest daughter , I stayed awake all night and rebuked the spirit of death from taking my daughter. I could feel the evil presence in the room.
    By morning that atmosphere in the room had changed and I knew that she would recover.
    But when death visits and also takes...we can only do as David did, and we "arise anoint ourself , and worship before the Lord"

     
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