Why, if God is sovereign, is there a global pandemic?

[Truman]

Has the Almighty become less than before? Is He losing His grip on things?
Or is there another reason why things are the way they are?
Is this judgement on us, His people?
Are we, as a whole, walking towards a cliff, and is He, in His faithfulness, allowing pain to drive us back to Him?
Are we putting Him first, despising all others in comparison, including ourselves?
Have we become arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned about the less fortunate.
Do we replace mercy with excuses?
Are we, for His sake, willing to lose our lives that we might find them?
Are we close to a terrible war and one-world government?
Are we willing to repent?
Will this thread be ignored?

 

[Amazed@grace]

Remember the aftermath of 9-11? TV preacher's and sundry others said it was the judgement of God. Then, a first responder found a cut steel crossbeam in the imploded debris of the towers in New York City and there came proof! Or, others said it was a sign of Christ and his sovereignty. While others said that was just magical thinking. And if sovereignty and mercy were the crux of the matter, the hijackers would have failed before entering any of those 4 planes. While scripture tells us, all things are predetermined by God's plan. Not many are willing to believe that. Even when God tells us so.

 

[amigo de christo]

all shall come to pass just as it was foretold in the bible . Our Glorious LORD warned us what the times near the end would appear .
GOD has already determined that near the end the world would surrender unto the beast . GOD has purposed
that all who rejected the love of the truth , aka JESUS the GOSPEL , that they might be saved
will go under a strong delusion and be damned .
GOD is in control my dear friend . Times willl continue to get only more wicked , only more delusional
and most all will go under the delusion . For many reject the one and only true HOPE which is Christ JESUS .
Or they come to another jesus , a man invented version that panders to the lusts of their heart and of their flesh .
I am truly so concerned and worried for so many folks .
We must truly learn the biblical Christ well and also what those apostels taught , all sound doctrine .
Loving and learning and growing in the Grace of our LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

Take notice also , we are seeing Massive signs of something very clear . It shows us exactly what days we are in
and where this is all headed .
We have inquity abounding through the roof . We have a massive falling away under a false all inclusive we are one gospel .
AND they do it in the name of peace and safety .
We have sin being honored . We have massive confusion of faces . I mean when folks cannot even grasp what sex they are
and worse the world glorifies it and speaks evil of any who would correct it . WHAT days do we think we are in .
And notice that all the worlds religions and even the secular are getting in line for this we are one world peace unity move .
ITS a delusion that is leading them all , but not to GOD , but to he who desires to be as GOD .
And as i said , they all chanting its for peace , peace , world peace and security , world peace and safety .
Remember anything peculiar about those words , PEACE and SAFETY .
A hint , FOR WHEN THEY SHALL Say PEACE and SAFETY THEN SUDDEN DESTRUCTION COMES UPON THEM and They will not escape .

 

[amigo de christo]

Let us remember as in the days of lott , noah so too shall be the coming of the Son of man .
So lets take a peek at something and then compare it to our generation right now .
Lott . The men surrounded the house and said bring us out the men we want to KNOW them .
And lott even offered up his daughters and also reminded them not to do such evil .
And then they said now we gonna deal worse with you .
Now , something very similiar is already occuring .
Notice that evil , inquity had skyrocketed and the MEN was wanting to know the men .
Notice that lott did correct them and they accused him of being JUDGMENTAL a JUDGE
HE had even offered up his daughters .
SO lets look a simliar mindset which will get much worse .
And they surrounded the shop of the cake baker and they said , BAKE A CAKE FOR OUR WEDDING
and the baker said , I can offer you up sweets and such , only i cannot bake this cake for your wedding .
AND what did they say , YOU JUDGER , now we will deal worse with you and take you to court .
WE THINK this aint happening . BUT IT IS . AND IT WILL GET MUCH WORSE .
AND all the while they are chanting , gays , atheists , the worlds religoins , WE ARE ONE , ALL FOR WORLD PEACE and SAFETY .
WE are running on a path that clearly shows us , THE DOOR IS GONNA BE SLAMMED SHUT
THE KING Is gonna rise up and on that day , WOE unto all who are not IN THE ARK , IN JESUS CHRIST .
WE must prepare to suffer all for JESUS sake , and we must be watching and ready , lest THAT DAY , HIS DAY overtakes one as a thief .

 

[Truman]

Authoritarianism is everywhere...agree with us, or we will destroy you.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Has the Almighty become less than before? Is He losing His grip on things?
Or is there another reason why things are the way they are?
Is this judgement on us, His people?
Are we, as a whole, walking towards a cliff, and is He, in His faithfulness, allowing pain to drive us back to Him?
Are we putting Him first, despising all others in comparison, including ourselves?
Have we become arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned about the less fortunate.
Do we replace mercy with excuses?
Are we, for His sake, willing to lose our lives that we might find them?
Are we close to a terrible war and one-world government?
Are we willing to repent?
Will this thread be ignored?

Fulfillment of prophesy in the Bible....Jesus said these things would come.

 

[Amazed@grace]

Authoritarianism is everywhere...agree with us, or we will destroy you.

And as far as America, we're moving now closer to full on Socialism. Which leads inevitably to Communism. An ideology Mr. Biden's former boss embraced. Christian liberties and rights being infringed under the excuse of the virus I think was also a test to see how far we would concede to soft communism cloaked as authoritarian dictates, by state. Most notably the most overt were those authorities in blue states. There is a great example of overcoming such antichristian actions. Though it arrives here as news made by an American pastor in the UK. https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/...r-religious-freedom-in-uk-discrimination-case God bless him.

 

[Truman]

We are frogs in a pot, who never thought that we'd get caught,
In such an awkward spot, now we see what thought got...us!

A-okay, U.S.A., what have you got to say today?
Is communism here to stay, or are you willing to say,

That Jesus is the only way to stay...free...from sea...to shining sea? - Truman the Levite

 

[Enoch111]

Is this judgement on us, His people?

Questionably. But it is more than likely that this bogus pandemic is a part of this development: For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. All these are the beginning of sorrows. (Mt 24:7.8)

Viral pandemics are pestilences. But coronavirus was a BIOWEAPON against humanity by design. God was not behind the evil conspiracy to bring the whole world under bondage to COVID tyranny. This was the work of Satan through his evil minions in governments and various agencies.

From God's perspective this is a test for genuine Christians who are being forced to abandon corporate worship, or to drastically modify it so that it becomes worthless. Christians must stand up to COVID tyranny and defy the powers that be, since we are to render to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's (worship and fellowship while assembling together).

As of now, the Constitutions of Western countries are still valid, therefore the courts are still for recourse against government tyranny. A superior court in Weimar, Germany has ruled that the lockdowns are not only unconstitutional, but an assault on human dignity. European lawyers are calling this crimes against humanity.

Everything about this pandemic is bogus and based on lies. Everything. Yes, the virus is another strain of flu, and ordinary hygiene would have been enough to prevent its spread. But the death rates in various countries are about 0.1 percent or less, which means less than 1,000 people in 1,000,000 (one million) die from this infection. The death rate in Sweden which had no lockdowns was 0.079%. That is not a pandemic at all. The death rate in Canada is about 0.042%.

But the daily fear-mongering and the unconstitutional lockdowns, masking, and distancing were designed to bring the world into bondage, and the conspiracy was a success. The bogus vaccines are the next development, which will eventually change into the Mark of the Beast through nanotechnology, gene therapy and vaccine passports. Christians must TOTALLY reject these vaccines and all government restrictions, all of which are bogus. The plan is (1) depopulation and (2)destabilization. This includes the destruction of lives, livelihoods, and businesses.

 

[Addy]

Well... I guess then... you are really going to have a problem with the fence the government placed around this church in Alberta for continuously breaking covid protocols.

 

[Rita]

From God's perspective this is a test for genuine Christians who are being forced to abandon corporate worship, or to drastically modify it so that it becomes worthless. Christians must stand up to COVID tyranny and defy the powers that be, since we are to render to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's (worship and fellowship while assembling together).

what a shallow way to look at the bigger picture.... that statement is just so revealing !!
Not going to argue the case with you Enoch but needed to state the shallowness of your prospective..........
Rita

 

[Addy]

what a shallow way to look at the bigger picture.... that statement is just so revealing !!

LOL

 

[Stumpmaster]

Has the Almighty become less than before? Is He losing His grip on things?
Or is there another reason why things are the way they are?
Is this judgement on us, His people?
Are we, as a whole, walking towards a cliff, and is He, in His faithfulness, allowing pain to drive us back to Him?
Are we putting Him first, despising all others in comparison, including ourselves?
Have we become arrogant, overfed, and unconcerned about the less fortunate.
Do we replace mercy with excuses?
Are we, for His sake, willing to lose our lives that we might find them?
Are we close to a terrible war and one-world government?
Are we willing to repent?
Will this thread be ignored?

During both World Wars preachers around the earth busied themselves trying to convince all and sundry that the end was nigh . . .

 

[Enoch111]

what a shallow way to look at the bigger picture.... that statement is just so revealing !!
Not going to argue the case with you Enoch but needed to state the shallowness of your prospective..........
Rita

There is absolutely nothing shallow about exposing evil in government. Jesus not only exposed evil in the religious government in Israel, but He spoke out very strongly against the evildoers. So did John the Baptist against Herod. So what are you doing about evil when it attacks the right of Christians to worship freely?

 

[Enoch111]

Well... I guess then... you are really going to have a problem with the fence the government placed around this church in Alberta for continuously breaking covid protocols.

Absolutely. I have written to MLA Drew Barnes (who was against restrictions on churches) with a copy to Jason Kenney. I have even posted my letter in another thread dealing precisely with this matter.

 

[Addy]

Absolutely. I have written to MLA Drew Barnes (who was against restrictions on churches) with a copy to Jason Kenney. I have even posted my letter in another thread dealing precisely with this matter.

I have absolutely NO problem with your beliefs and opinions Enoch.... You even taught me something yesterday... What I take issue with is that you throw them on EVERY CHRISTIAN.. and that is not right.... I don't see things as you do... that does not make me wrong.

I am all for exercising the right to speak... but do so for yourself instead of demanding others to follow.

 

[Addy]

All of (ALL as in the entire province ) is under complete lockdown... shelter in place orders... we are told only to go out for essential supplies. This was effective midnight... It will be this way for a month.

These measures include everyone... I do not see why churches expect to be exempt from this.. or Why some Christians seem to feel the need to pull their RIGHTS card at this time. Gone are the days where life will ever be normal... I think people are not wanting to face that America and Canada as we knew it are GONE... and never coming back... These are prophetic times... It's far more beneficial to be focusing on God right now... rather than what the WORLD is doing.

 

[Rita]

There is absolutely nothing shallow about exposing evil in government. Jesus not only exposed evil in the religious government in Israel, but He spoke out very strongly against the evildoers. So did John the Baptist against Herod. So what are you doing about evil when it attacks the right of Christians to worship freely?

That wasn’t what I was referring to, it was the conclusion that you stated boldly that you think you know what God is doing and for one sole purpose, you are not God and I am pretty sure that we all have something to learn, including you. So the shallowness comment was linked to your limited vision of what is going on.
Rita

 

[fellow]

There is absolutely nothing shallow about exposing evil in government. Jesus not only exposed evil in the religious government in Israel, but He spoke out very strongly against the evildoers. So did John the Baptist against Herod. So what are you doing about evil when it attacks the right of Christians to worship freely?

They were more than evil doers. They were the children of the devil. Esau took wives of these children and became known of Babylonians. When the Jews were defeated in battle they were taken to Babylon where many of the Jews intermarried with them. When the King of Babylon decided to allow the true Jews to go back to Israel to rebuild the temple many of the other Babylons went there to help. They became known as the Pharisees and these are the ones who were against Jesus, of course.
Joh 8:43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Joh 8:45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
Joh 8:46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
Joh 8:47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.