Will Fornicators Inherit God’s Kingdom?

[DavidB]

1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 NASB
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.”

Sexual relations outside of marriage is commonplace. How many think that practicing fornication will prevent a person from inheriting the Kingdom?

If you had a son or daughter who chose to live with someone though not married, how would you handle the situation? If you acted like nothing was wrong, would you be condoning their choice, a choice that could cost them their eternal future? Would that be showing real love?

 

[Lifelong_sinner]

1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 NASB
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.”

Sexual relations outside of marriage is commonplace. How many think that practicing fornication will prevent a person from inheriting the Kingdom?

If you had a son or daughter who chose to live with someone though not married, how would you handle the situation? If you acted like nothing was wrong, would you be condoning their choice, a choice that could cost them their eternal future? Would that be showing real love?

it absolutely will keep a person out of Heaven. If i had a kid who did this, and knew it was wrong, i would just remind them that hell is right warm year round.

 

[lforrest]

I do not see that the vows are what constitutes marrage, but the cleaving together as in Gen 2:24.

Or does God differ to the civil authorities for who is married to whom?

 

[JunChosen]

@DavidB,

In your scheme of things who then can be saved seeing as in Adam all die! That there is none righteous ,no, not one! Romans 3:10.
And there's NONE that seeks after God? And, if none that seeks after God, who then can be saved?

To God Be The Glory

 

[DavidB]

@DavidB,

In your scheme of things who then can be saved seeing as in Adam all die! That there is none righteous ,no, not one! Romans 3:10.
And there's NONE that seeks after God? And, if none that seeks after God, who then can be saved?

To God Be The Glory

It’s not my scheme. It’s Paul’s by inspiration. You can do with it what you like. Obviously many who say they are Christians dismiss what Paul wrote.

There certainly is no one without sin. Thanks to God that he gave his Son as a ransom for us. There are Christians who do not practice the types of serious sin that Paul says will keep you out of the Kingdom. How many? Jesus did say the gate was narrow and the road was cramped.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Will Fornicators Inherit God’s Kingdom?

Nope!

 

[DavidB]

I do not see that the vows are what constitutes marrage, but the cleaving together as in Gen 2:24.

Or does God differ to the civil authorities for who is married to whom?

How do you apply Romans 13?

Fornication is defined as having relations when not married. Do you think fornicators will inherit God’s Kingdom?

 

[Wrangler]

If you had a son or daughter who chose to live with someone though not married, how would you handle the situation? If you acted like nothing was wrong, would you be condoning their choice, a choice that could cost them their eternal future? Would that be showing real love?

I recently shared that my daughter is doing this in the thread about JW cult. After her choosing to not be in my life for a long time, I could comment on a number of things in her life that are not right. The question is, would my saying anything about these things help?

One thing I've learned is that if people do not ask you what your opinion is, they probably don't want to hear it.

I spoke to my wife after my last conversation with my daughter. She paused and repeated my question when I asked her how are things in her life. She's being very careful of what she shares. I do believe a lot of that is her not wanting to burden me wtth things she can handle. Obviously, pride is very apparent.

She has shared things that trouble her and at the top of the list is KNOWING I have turned to Christ, she fears I will reciprocate and expel her from my life. Next on her list is the religious damage done to her hubby (slang for living like a legal husband). She fears the negative aspects of religion in her life right now. I have prayed on this and KNOW the thing for me to do is extend grace. She knows my morals. She already knows where I stand.

I am condoning her choice to have me in her life and that shows real love, sacrificial love. I've sacrificed my ego while also standing up to her a number of times. My goal is to win the war (of her soul), not the battle (of a particular choice).

Hope this helps.

 

[lforrest]

How do you apply Romans 13?

Fornication is defined as having relations when not married. Do you think fornicators will inherit God’s Kingdom?

I don't see how authority vested in an officiating priest through a government that was established by God becomes the only legitimate way to have a marrage.

If the governing authority were absolute they could even pair up people without their consent. Or those of the same gender.

My point is your definition of fornication may be flawed if God's requirement for marriage is met aside from the governing authority. Which I suppose it can be, as there was marrage before governing authorities were established.

 

[Behold]

1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 NASB
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?

Look at the verse.
The verse tells you clearly the context.
The verse says...>"the unrighteous will not inherit the KOG".

So, as the KOG is a Spiritual Kingdom that is IN the born again, and the born again have been "translated from darkness TO LIGHT"..... See that LIGHT?
ROMANS 14:17
That is the KOG, and all the BORN AGAIN are in it. This is why we are "seated in Heavenly places in Christ"", RIGHT NOW.

So, the born again, have the KOG already.........we are not waiting for it.
We are already "made Righteous" and have become "the Righteousness of God, in Christ"
We are in the KOG, the very instant we were born again into it.

 

[ScottA]

1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 NASB
“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.”

Sexual relations outside of marriage is commonplace. How many think that practicing fornication will prevent a person from inheriting the Kingdom?

If you had a son or daughter who chose to live with someone though not married, how would you handle the situation? If you acted like nothing was wrong, would you be condoning their choice, a choice that could cost them their eternal future? Would that be showing real love?

In so many words... No.

However, just as marriage was a mystery not fully understood for thousands of years until Christ announced that He was the Bridegroom and Paul elaborated the mystery "as Christ is to the church", I would suggest that this is a similar parable--about other gods.

And the same goes for those other practices named by Paul.

 

[JunChosen]

It’s not my scheme. It’s Paul’s by inspiration. You can do with it what you like. Obviously many who say they are Christians dismiss what Paul wrote.

Apparently, you didn't "get" my post. Please read again and if still you don't get it, ask then we can reason together?

 

[DavidB]

Apparently, you didn't "get" my post. Please read again and if still you don't get it, ask then we can reason together?

Please elaborate.

 

[DavidB]

I don't see how authority vested in an officiating priest through a government that was established by God becomes the only legitimate way to have a marrage.

If the governing authority were absolute they could even pair up people without their consent. Or those of the same gender.

My point is your definition of fornication may be flawed if God's requirement for marriage is met aside from the governing authority. Which I suppose it can be, as there was marrage before governing authorities were established.

Setting aside the aspect of how marriage is established, (that was just an illustration of my question) do you believe that those practicing fornication will inherit the Kingdom of God?

Your comments bring some questions to my mind. If a couple decides to live together and wants to define that as a marriage, is that marriage binding before God as a one flesh lifetime commitment? Would they only be able to marry (or move in with) someone else if their mate died or committed adultery as Jesus laid out?

 

[lforrest]

Setting aside the aspect of how marriage is established, (that was just an illustration of my question) do you believe that those practicing fornication will inherit the Kingdom of God?

Your comments bring some questions to my mind. If a couple decides to live together and wants to define that as a marriage, is that marriage binding before God as a one flesh lifetime commitment? Would they only be able to marry (or move in with) someone else if their mate died or committed adultery as Jesus laid out?

As it is written in the scriptures I believe fornicaters will not enter the Kingdom of God.

And yes I believe a live in relationship would be a binding marrage, but my opinion is of the minority.

 

[Wrangler]

As it is written in the scriptures I believe fornicaters will not enter the Kingdom of God.

And yes I believe a live in relationship would be a binding marrage, but my opinion is of the minority.

I tend to agree.

Although I have not delved into the etymology of fornication, I get the sense the prohibition is more against ‘sleeping around’ rather than against having a committed relationship that has not participated in a ritual or legal proceeding.

I told my daughters hubby that he lives like he’s married and I’m going to respect that and talk to him like my son.

The ensuing conversation was both heartfelt and challenging.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Look at the verse.
The verse tells you clearly the context.
The verse says...>"the unrighteous will not inherit the KOG".

So, as the KOG is a Spiritual Kingdom that is IN the born again, and the born again have been "translated from darkness TO LIGHT"..... See that LIGHT?
ROMANS 14:17
That is the KOG, and all the BORN AGAIN are in it. This is why we are "seated in Heavenly places in Christ"", RIGHT NOW.

So, the born again, have the KOG already.........we are not waiting for it.
We are already "made Righteous" and have become "the Righteousness of God, in Christ"
We are in the KOG, the very instant we were born again into it.

Yes, one who is truly born again would not play up on his wife.

It was Jesus who clearly established what Marriage was, this is due to Grace !
The Jew does not have Grace, so such is only a contract ? and that's why nowadays Marriage has been dragged down to a Jewish level or worse and it's because they have no Grace ! that's the key point a Godless marriage ! is promoted by Satan, such as the bastardisation creation such as the stupidity of so called Gay marriage. not to mention such is only less that 10% of gays were are for such nonsense. but we get the Government Nazis pushing such rubbish as a great issue of their gods and another feather in their cap for Socialist depravity sakes.

It was given as the Jews hardness of their hearts ? but with Jesus all is set correct and he gives Grace, Grace endures over all in fact when one understands what the Grace of God is.

 

[Scott Downey]

God joins together a man and a women in marriage. The marriage ceremonies are for the observance of other men and women as a witness to the marriage that God did already. It reminds me of John talking to Jesus here,

John Baptizes Jesus
13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to John at the Jordan to be baptized by him. 14 And John tried to prevent Him, saying, “I need to be baptized by You, and are You coming to me?”

15 But Jesus answered and said to him, “Permit it to be so now, for thus it is fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness.” Then he allowed Him.

So yes people should get married before they physically join together as this is the right thing to do in the government of God for us.
What would happen if for some reason, the 2 had sex together, but then never got officially married? This would be fornication, sexual immorality, those who practice the works of the flesh will not inherit eternal life.
But all can be forgiven. Then like Jesus says, go and sin no more less something worse befall you. And also is recognized the common law wife and husband, never officially married according to the law.

Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

John 5:14
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple, and said to him, “See, you have been made well. Sin no more, lest a worse thing come upon you.”

Everyone will give an account to God for the deeds done in the body.
Those who practice the works of the flesh, show themselves not converted to Christ.

 

[JunChosen]

Please elaborate.

The phrase "as in Adam all die" means each and every person that will be born in this world, the gates of hell is upon them. Hence, as in Adam all die.
And also, Romans 3:10-11, begs an answer. IOW, if there is none righteous and none seeks after God, who then can be saved? None. But Paul explains from verses 12 through to the end of the chapter.

To God Be The Glory

 

[Gregory]

Will Fornicators Inherit God’s Kingdom?

Nope!

Wait a minute. If I am OSAS, will I not be forgiven immediately after I commit fornication and still be allowed in heaven?