You : shall never Perish

[Behold]

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Jesus says.....'"and you shall never perish".

The "You" there, is all the born again, who are the : "predestined elect".
Faith elects, God saves.
Every born again person is predestined to be conformed into the Image of Christ.
Are you born again? Then that is you.
You gave God your faith, by FREE WILL, and God accepted your faith and gave you His Righteousness.

"shall never perish", is Jesus explaining that because Christ is now in all the born again, and all the born again are born into God by God's Holy Spirit.....this situation can't be changed.
"shall never perish".
"never".

Now, if you are truly born again, and not just water sprinkled or water dunk'd and told that the water has saved you, or is required for you to be saved......(same cultish nonsense)....then you are going to meet a lot of so called "christians" who are on their own religious trip.
Their trip, many times, is not leading them to heaven. Their trip is leading them to damnation, even as they quote verses all the way to hell.
And why is that?
Its because to be born again, is to already be IN Heaven.
No Trip Necessary.
See, every born again person is waiting for their new body and the end of their eternal inheritance.
Every born again person is a " heir of God", and a joint heir with Christ".
This has HAPPENED. It is who we are, = all who are born again.
We are already HEIRS of the eternal promise and established in God's Spiritual Family as "born again" SONS of God.
If you are a girl / woman, that means you, if you are born again.

And a person says......>"but, absent from the Body is present with the Lord".... and we are going to meet Jesus in the Air, and get our new bodies.""
And that is exactly correct. And while you are waiting to do that, you are already seated in Heavenly Places, "in Christ", and you are already...>>"As Jesus is.....so are the born again, IN THIS WORLD".

Yes, its a spiritual mystery that is a eternal reality....if you are born again.

Welcome to your Salvation.
God accomplished it on the Cross and provides it when you believe in The God man, who was manifested in the Flesh to take away the sin of the world.
This is GOD on the Cross who said...>"it is FINISHED"....and He should know, as He just took the sin of the world upon Himself and died for YOU, 2000 yrs ago.
If you are born again, then Jesus has become your sin, and you have been "made righteous" and have become ..."the righteousness of God, in Christ" and you shall "never perish".

So, if you are water baptized religious, but lost..... always trying to be good, to try to be good enough for God acceptance....then stop....You can't do it.
And if you are born again and are trying to get God to keep you, then STOP, as you will "never perish"< and you need to relax, let go of your self righteousness, and exist in real faith that is TRUST that God Himself who started your salvation in you, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it.

Philippians 1:6

Believe it.

 

[GEN2REV]

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Jesus says.....'"and you shall never perish".

The "You" there, is all the born again, who are the : "predestined elect".
Faith elects, God saves.
Every born again person is predestined to be conformed into the Image of Christ.
Are you born again? Then that is you.
You gave God your faith, by FREE WILL, and God accepted your faith and gave you His Righteousness.

"shall never perish", is Jesus explaining that because Christ is now in all the born again, and all the born again are born into God by God's Holy Spirit.....this situation can't be changed.
"shall never perish".
"never".

Now, if you are truly born again, and not just water sprinkled or water dunk'd and told that the water has saved you, or is required for you to be saved......(same cultish nonsense)....then you are going to meet a lot of so called "christians" who are on their own religious trip.
Their trip, many times, is not leading them to heaven. Their trip is leading them to damnation, even as they quote verses all the way to hell.
And why is that?
Its because to be born again, is to already be IN Heaven.
No Trip Necessary.
See, every born again person is waiting for their new body and the end of their eternal inheritance.
Every born again person is a " heir of God", and a joint heir with Christ".
This has HAPPENED. It is who we are, = all who are born again.
We are already HEIRS of the eternal promise and established in God's Spiritual Family as "born again" SONS of God.
If you are a girl / woman, that means you, if you are born again.

And a person says......>"but, absent from the Body is present with the Lord".... and we are going to meet Jesus in the Air, and get our new bodies.""
And that is exactly correct. And while you are waiting to do that, you are already seated in Heavenly Places, "in Christ", and you are already...>>"As Jesus is.....so are the born again, IN THIS WORLD".

Yes, its a spiritual mystery that is a eternal reality....if you are born again.

Welcome to your Salvation.
God accomplished it on the Cross and provides it when you believe in The God man, who was manifested in the Flesh to take away the sin of the world.
This is GOD on the Cross who said...>"it is FINISHED"....and He should know, as He just took the sin of the world upon Himself and died for YOU, 2000 yrs ago.
If you are born again, then Jesus has become your sin, and you have been "made righteous" and have become ..."the righteousness of God, in Christ" and you shall "never perish".

So, if you are water baptized religious, but lost..... always trying to be good, to try to be good enough for God acceptance....then stop....You can't do it.
And if you are born again and are trying to get God to keep you, then STOP, as you will "never perish"< and you need to relax, let go of your self righteousness, and exist in real faith that is TRUST that God Himself who started your salvation in you, will HIMSELF be faithful to complete it.

Philippians 1:6

Believe it.

What happens to those who are not born again? The Bible says they are not judged. What becomes of them?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What happens to those who are not born again? The Bible says they are not judged. What becomes of them?

he who does not believed is condemned already

Their state never changed, and their state, if not changed before death, will continue to remain

 

[amigo de christo]

he who does not believed is condemned already

Their state never changed, and their state, if not changed before death, will continue to remain

Very good answer .
JESUS said that . The ONLY , ONLY condemnation one has . And he says if they BELIEVE NOT
they ARE CONDEMNED . YES INDEED my friend YOU STICK GLUED to that original gospel .

 

[Behold]

What happens to those who are not born again? The Bible says they are not judged.

What bible are you reading?
Its not one that Paul has anything to do with, if YOUR bible says that Christ rejectors are not Judged.

In Fact, all unbelievers are DAMNED ALREADY........and the only way out of that eternal damnation is found here. John 14:6.

And here....>"all that call on Jesus, shall be saved".

GEN2REV, Notice this verse, if you have a real bible.

John 3:36.
This verse, tells you that if you are not a believer in Yeshua, Born again, then you are DAMNED yet not dead yet., and the only way out of that damnation, is........ "All that call upon the name of the Lord , shall be SAVED";.

Saved from what?
Saved from John 3:36 and Revelation 20:11

 

[amigo de christo]

What happens to those who are not born again? The Bible says they are not judged. What becomes of them?

Very dangerous mindset this is . We cannot heed this generations new love god .
Stick to what JESUS said my friend . All we can do is preach the gospel
whoever hears amen , whoever rejects they have one that shall judge them on the last day , JESUS , THE WORD .
IT wont bode well for them my friend . Let us stick to the original life saving life changing gospel .
OFFER up the HOPE of CHRIST , but never offer up a false hope . A false hope leads only to the second death .

 

[GEN2REV]

he who does not believed is condemned already
Their state never changed, and their state, if not changed before death, will continue to remain

Very good answer .
JESUS said that . The ONLY , ONLY condemnation one has . And he says if they BELIEVE NOT
they ARE CONDEMNED . YES INDEED my friend YOU STICK GLUED to that original gospel .

What bible are you reading?
Its not one that Paul has anything to do with, if YOUR bible says that Christ rejectors are not Judged.

In Fact, all unbelievers are DAMNED ALREADY........and the only way out of that eternal damnation is found here. John 14:6.

And here....>"all that call on Jesus, shall be saved".

GEN2REV, Notice this verse, if you have a real bible.

John 3:36.
This verse, tells you that if you are not a believer in Yeshua, Born again, then you are DAMNED yet not dead yet., and the only way out of that damnation, is........ "All that call upon the name of the Lord , shall be SAVED";.

Saved from what?
Saved from John 3:36 and Revelation 20:11

Very dangerous mindset this is . We cannot heed this generations new love god .
Stick to what JESUS said my friend . All we can do is preach the gospel
whoever hears amen , whoever rejects they have one that shall judge them on the last day , JESUS , THE WORD .
IT wont bode well for them my friend . Let us stick to the original life saving life changing gospel .
OFFER up the HOPE of CHRIST , but never offer up a false hope . A false hope leads only to the second death .

The issue, it appears, is with the words damned, condemned and judged being used interchangeably. I'm not sure that's how the Bible intends it.

The passage I was referring to is Psalm 1. Specifically Psalms 1:5 which says that "the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous."

They won't even be there at the Great White Throne; if that is even a literal event.

I believe they are still condemned, but this possibly happens immediately upon death. There are many verses throughout Proverbs, and possibly elsewhere, that paint a very clear picture of annihilation. When you consider all that is stated in the Bible about what happens after physical death, I think it's clear that this is not the case for all people, but likely only those who die without any relationship with God - those who have chosen not to embrace Him, who have never developed a love for the Truth and/or those who were never called; not elect. John 6:44

If they never stand before God in the judgment, it is most likely they were never resurrected ... because they became as dust in the wind, spiritually, upon their physical death.

 

[Behold]

The issue, it appears, is with the words damned, condemned and judged being used interchangeably. I'm not sure that's how the Bible intends it.

1.) All are already damned, who are not born again. John 3:36

2.) Damned.... does not refer to your body, as your body is going in the ground.

3.) Judged...... Jesus said if you do not trust in Him, if you do not receive Him by faith, if you do not accept and believe that He is THE Messiah, then you will "die in your sins".. because you are NOT redeemed from them by being "born again".
And.. water cannot solved that for you. IF it could then water would have died on the Cross.
Notice that it didnt ? Notice that the dying thief was never water baptized and he is in Heaven right now, "in Christ".

4.) Revelation 20:11 : The start of the 2nd death, which is finished when you end up IN the Lake of Fire.