9 teachings from Jesus
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Except for him, he was created direct-first and last= The FIRSTBORN of all creation. All other things created through him. see those words verse 1:16--through him, by another who has the power.
0 equality. Just like the OT says--I am YHWH(Jehovah)beside me( not we) there is no other God. Coll 1:16--things were created-THROUGH Jesus, obviously by another being who has the power= YHWH(Jehovah)
Why don't you quote Scripture? I quoted several and you evaded them like the Devil.
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Ronald Nolette
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They are both share the same nature- absolute divinity.
Different in authority
Equal in divinity.
Yahweh is the one who is addressing Israel in the book of Hosea so tell me this:
15 I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.
when did Yahweh come to earth and return back to His place . HINT: He was born in a stable and an angel called Him Yahweh with us!
Ronald Nolette
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Behold
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Jesus said.. :
"If you've seen me you've seen the Father"
"I and my Father are one".
"you believe in God, believe also in Me"..
ALSO......
"Jesus, Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be EQUAL with GOD"
Jesus is "God who was manifested in the Flesh"
Jesus pre-incarnate is "The Word WAS God".
Thomas said to Jesus...."My LORD and my GOD"
John 1:10.... says that Jesus "made the World"
Colossians 1:16 says He made it ALL and upholds it all with His Power.
Ronald Nolette
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Y
es, Equal to His Father in divinity but inferior in position or authority as the Scriptures clearly teach.
Behold
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God spoke creation = and JESUS IS THE WORD of GOD, pre-incarnate.
Jesus told you also..
"ALL power is given to me, in heaven and on earth"....
Jesus told you, He is the "Alpha and Omega", and '""God has no beginning and no ending""""
= ITS THE SAME.
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Ronald Nolette
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I agree 100% but Jesus is inferior in position and authority to HIs Father!
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
Jesus is equally god as His Father but in submission to HIs Father.
Hosea 13
4 You shall know no God but Me; For there is no Savior besides Me.
Behold
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Jesus said "I and my Father are one".
Jesus the Man, on Earth, was a Lamb, heading to the Cross.
He's not that now, Ronald.
God is coming back, as 2 Thessalonians 1:8, and this World , that- pre-incarnate preJesus made.....in John 1:10....is going to Shake and Bake.
You should listen to bible council-- Be like the Bereans and make sure of all things.
Every translation on earth with the removal of Gods name by satans will is aberrant. Misleading all using them.
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