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Allow me to ask you . . .
How do you repent of someone else's sin? Can you show me that in Scripture? I don't understand how that makes sense.
Are you aware of why most modern Bible's omit "Lord" from 1 Corinthians 15:47 and replace it with "man?"
It's better than Jesus repenting of his (own) nonexistent sin.
Well, close; let's just say it was for appearances sake.
Jesus bluffed his way through John’s water baptism of repentance even though it was a command given from heaven? That seems problematic too.
Perhaps. But neither Jesus' baptism nor Timothy's circumcision can fairly be called a "bluff," although both events were ineffective to accomplish what a baptism or a bris is thought by their respective adherents to accomplish. Jesus was not in need of repentance, Timothy was not in need of being marked a Jew -- but both obediently went through the formality in order to affirm their support for the ritual.
Projecting. It’s something you should have learned in elementary school. One can easily educate oneself that O’ means OF in English.
The problem with saying Jesus was just moving through the motions, like theater, is that if you apply it to John's water baptism we might as well apply it to everything he did. Just comes off an insincere and disingenuous.
I am indeed a Trinitarian, although my reasons are different than many advanced by others. It's a banned subject on this site.
www.britannica.com
Britannica doesn't really go far into it . One of the reasons why Jesus got water baptized for repentance was so that it would be revealed to Israel that he is the Messiah. God needed to establish who Jesus was in the first place. I am comfortable with accepting that Jesus took John's water baptism of repentance just so it could be revealed he is the man the Spirit descended on, even if he had no sin to repent of. Side note, Jesus didn't receive the Holy Spirit anointing and empowerment until his water baptism.I am indeed a Trinitarian, although my reasons are different than many advanced by others. It's a banned subject on this site.
You'll notice my comment "if Matt. 3:13-15 is accurate." There's a lot to be said on that subject. Here is a start from Brittanica:
"The author apparently found it to be embarrassing that Jesus received John’s baptism of repentance (why would Jesus have needed it?). Thus, he has John protest against the baptism and claim that Jesus should instead baptize him (Matthew 3:13–17; this objection is not in Mark or Luke). Those verses in Matthew assume that John recognized Jesus as being greater than he, but Matthew later shows John, in prison, sending a message to ask Jesus whether he was “the one who is to come” (Matthew 11:2–6). Those passages make it virtually certain that John baptized Jesus and highly probable that John asked Jesus who he was. John’s protest against baptizing Jesus appears to be Matthew’s creation. In keeping those passages while, in effect, arguing against them, Matthew validates the authenticity of the tradition that John baptized Jesus and later enquired about his true identity."
Jesus - The Jewish religion in the 1st century
Jesus - The Jewish religion in the 1st century: Judaism, as the Jewish religion came to be known in the 1st century ce, was based on ancient Israelite religion, shorn of many of its Canaanite characteristics but with the addition of important features from Babylonia and Persia. The Jews differed...
Did you notice that John the Baptist seemed to begin second guessing himself in Matt 11:2 about who Jesus is? In John 1:31-34 John the Baptist seemed sure about who Jesus is then in Matthew 11:2 John asked "Are You the One who was to come, or should we look for someone else?"I am indeed a Trinitarian, although my reasons are different than many advanced by others. It's a banned subject on this site.
You'll notice my comment "if Matt. 3:13-15 is accurate." There's a lot to be said on that subject. Here is a start from Brittanica:
"The author apparently found it to be embarrassing that Jesus received John’s baptism of repentance (why would Jesus have needed it?). Thus, he has John protest against the baptism and claim that Jesus should instead baptize him (Matthew 3:13–17; this objection is not in Mark or Luke). Those verses in Matthew assume that John recognized Jesus as being greater than he, but Matthew later shows John, in prison, sending a message to ask Jesus whether he was “the one who is to come” (Matthew 11:2–6). Those passages make it virtually certain that John baptized Jesus and highly probable that John asked Jesus who he was. John’s protest against baptizing Jesus appears to be Matthew’s creation. In keeping those passages while, in effect, arguing against them, Matthew validates the authenticity of the tradition that John baptized Jesus and later enquired about his true identity."
Jesus - The Jewish religion in the 1st century
Jesus - The Jewish religion in the 1st century: Judaism, as the Jewish religion came to be known in the 1st century ce, was based on ancient Israelite religion, shorn of many of its Canaanite characteristics but with the addition of important features from Babylonia and Persia. The Jews differed...
Right. The Brittanica passage suggests that he was actually FIRST guessing himself while in prison, and that his words to Christ at the Jordan were made up by Matthew. I have some sympathy for that view.
New light comes at the proper time( Matt 24:45)-- trinity translations are filled with errors. Never corrected. Like capitol G God to the word at John 1:1, it is not that way in the Greek lexicons. Its why throughout history Greek scholars translated a god into many translations. Because its correct.
John was originally written in all capitals.
The "Chosen" and "elect" are the spirit-anointed Christians. Are you spirit-anointed? Are you part of the 144,000?
I am Spirit anointed but do not believe I am part of the 144,000.
