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Brakelite

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Outrageous. But can something good come out of it?
I believe that already we are witnessing a pushback against governments and institutions that support and promote the ludicrous woke concepts of the left. The pendulum of the political spectrum I believe is swinging back to the right... The question is, how far will that swing take us, and are there dangers in embracing right wing extremes simply for the purpose of abandoning left wing extremism?
 
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Matthias

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I believe that already we are witnessing a pushback against governments and institutions that support and promote the ludicrous woke concepts of the left. The pendulum of the political spectrum I believe is swinging back to the right... The question is, how far will that swing take us, and are there dangers in embracing right wing extremes simply for the purpose of abandoning left wing extremism?

That’s a possible short-term good that might come from it. You astutely pointed out the potential danger of a good reaction gone too far, resulting in something as equally bad - or worse - than the evil it replaces.

Is there another good besides the one you mentioned that could come out of this dreadful situation?
 

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@Matthias @Brakelite ...soapbox time of free thoughts............

When national power and influence are at stake, and they're always are, overwhelming large driving forces from only one side of the political/social aisle over a 'long' period of time can cause irreversible damage to society and the fabric of a nation i.e. create a genuine national crisis leading to civil war. This is not the goal we want to see achieved of course.

So the trick is to always have opposing forces counterbalancing or cancelling each other out. It is a question of balance indeed and we need the center of gravity to be closest to the pivot point or middle of the spectrum as realistically as possible.

And I agree that when a force of instability ( ex: pushback by correcting stable forces against unstable liberal actions and incursions into the integrity and vitality of the family unit...gender identity) is found and neutralized, a battle is won indeed. Unless we find it is really not a 'dead' issue; it is just playing possum. Regardless, it may be just one battle fought and won and not the war, just a short-term fill-in of an ever-aging and cracking dam and we do not see the widespread internal fractures running the length and breadth of it - undetectable giving a sense of conquest and balance until the deluge arrives.

We are called not only as citizens of a nation, even as Christians to apply proper and constant vigilance and inspection of ourselves and our lifestyles in society, in this world and hopefully we can be a 'good' force to keep opposing forces at bay. When we are gone or our influence becomes scarce, all heck can break loose.....weekend rant....oh well...forgive me..:musicaln:;)
 
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In my opinion, the world stage is being set for the appearance of the antichrist. Taking down the world’s great superpower (the United States) from within (cp. the moral decline of the Roman Empire) may shortly produce the good of the coming age.
Just do not know if there will be such a person or just one person as I lean toward it is as a system of evil being formed and getting ready to act.
 

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I believe that already we are witnessing a pushback against governments and institutions that support and promote the ludicrous woke concepts of the left. The pendulum of the political spectrum I believe is swinging back to the right... The question is, how far will that swing take us, and are there dangers in embracing right wing extremes simply for the purpose of abandoning left wing extremism?
The homosexuality community invariably becomes militant. Resistance to their demands will arouse their violence. That's why it was so important to not let homosexuality take a foothold in society. But in our misguided kindness we caved in to the inches they took. And now they want it all. The whole world will be as Sodom and Gomorrah in a short time.
 

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I believe that already we are witnessing a pushback against governments and institutions that support and promote the ludicrous woke concepts of the left. The pendulum of the political spectrum I believe is swinging back to the right... The question is, how far will that swing take us, and are there dangers in embracing right wing extremes simply for the purpose of abandoning left wing extremism?
As has been demonstrated, there is no legal, level-headed, right way to push back that won't be twisted and misrepresented as an illegal insurrection.
 
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The whole world will be as Sodom and Gomorrah in a short time.

This is why God commanded:

“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:13)

“And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.” (Deuteronomy 21:21)

Or else:

“The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.” (Psalms 12:8)

“…the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.” (Genesis 19:4-5)
 
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This is why God commanded:

“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:13)

“And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.” (Deuteronomy 21:21)

Or else:

“The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted.” (Psalms 12:8)

“…the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.” (Genesis 19:4-5)
These are exactly the scriptures I had in mind. :vgood:
 
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Just to be clear, I don't believe we are to put homosexuals to death. I believe God's intention was to show us it's a practice worthy of death (a death Christ gladly died for them if they'll just receive it), and that we are not to allow it in society for the good of society.
 

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In my opinion, the world stage is being set for the appearance of the antichrist. Taking down the world’s great superpower (the United States) from within (cp. the moral decline of the Roman Empire) may shortly produce the good of the coming age.
Yes, the free world must be destroyed to make way for the slavery and bondage and control of the anti-christ kingdom. Which, it seems, is Russian and Chinese style communism. They're using our moral weaknesses, our greed, our lusts, our perversions against us to achieve that goal. It's working. Even they know what destroys a nation! We're finished, folks.
 
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In my opinion, the world stage is being set for the appearance of the antichrist. Taking down the world’s great superpower (the United States) from within (cp. the moral decline of the Roman Empire) may shortly produce the good of the coming age.
What if the Antichrist was already here, and orchestrating the very pendulum swings that are increasingly becoming more and more extreme as time passes? And to what purpose would such ongoing conflict bring about? What of the reaction of the general populace to the constant changes, the incessant wars and conflict and debates and incursions and stripping away of our freedoms as contesting ideologies attempt to outdo the opposition with greater intensity in order to control and dominate society... And government? There will come a time, and I believe we are approaching that time now, that the world will demand peace. Will demand a peacemaker. Someone who will do away with the extremes and the swings and roundabouts of political and ideological intrigue and lies and tyranny, demands of obedience to senseless illogical concepts that are purely ideologically driven. By discarding the swings of thesis versus antithesis, of left versus right, of democrat versus republican, of socialism/communism versus capitalism, of liberalism versus conservatism.

If these conflicts and battles are all coordinated, orchestrated, you can know the conductor is already standing in the wings, hidden in plain sight, and the public in general unaware of any involvement in the struggle, but certainly becoming more and more hopeful that this one power/ individual can bring balance... Synthesis...a result you can be sure was something he wanted all along, but something the world generally would utterly reject and despise without having gone through all the prior difficulties.

So when the world finds that the pain of disunity is greater than the pain of fear of unity, the world will demand crave and plead for whoever can promise peace and safety.
This Antichrist will have no need to come bearing arms and forcing himself into the public's psyche, he will be welcomed with open arms.
 
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