Fellowship With Transgenders

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FAQ: Should Christians shun transgenders?

FAQ: Absolutely not!

Transgendering isn't specifically addressed in the Bible, viz: it's a gray area,
and as such ought to be approached in accord with the 14th chapter of
Romans which says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage
Christian transgenders with debating nor abuse them with judgmental
criticism.

Transgendering is a rough road to travel due to embarrassing therapy
regimens; and side effects, complications, negative public opinion, doubts,
regrets, disappointment, and mood swings that many would rather not talk
about. So be especially careful with your dialogue so as not to push them to
the point where you'll be forcing them to maintain their poise with fibs.

A little empathy, and a whole lot of tact and courtesy, can be very useful in
helping someone get thru the day, ergo: don't become a hell for
transgenders, instead, become a haven because people really ought to feel
safe with Christians instead of wary.

● Matt 7:12 . . So in everything: do to others what you would have them do
to you.
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I have yet to figure out why it is that so many Christians are in the habit of
conflating gender dysphoria with gays and lesbians; but I suspect the
mistake is due to a failure on their part to research the condition-- easily
done by simply taking the time to look for it on YouTube.

From what I've learned thus far: gender dysphoric folk are not what I'd call
a bad influence. For the most part they are simply harmless guys and girls
who truly believed they'd be happier as the opposite sex; and actually quite
a few do find satisfaction in that direction; though of course many
oftentimes discover that the dream was better than the reality as there are
some rather inconvenient complications associated with their surgeries.
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Beware of profiling!

For example it is the personal belief of some that if you're a white man, then
you are automatically a toxic male. Is that true? No, of course not, because
not every white guy is a bad person; in point of fact: quite a few white guys
are very decent folks. You see; profiling fails to take into account an
individual's personal characteristics.

In the same vein, not every transgender person is militant, nor are they all
political activists, nor are they all together unified to poison the minds of
young children. In point of fact, many of the transgenders I've reviewed on
YouTube are anxious to warn children about the hazards associated with
altering their sex.

Therefore I highly recommend dealing with transgenders on an individual
basis, i.e. one at a time, viz: should you meet with a transgender, resist
jumping to conclusions-- first get to know that person before deciding how
best to classify their thinking because if there is one thing on this earth that
everybody despises it's a prejudiced bigot, and too many Christians I
encounter online are exactly that.
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We are talking about those who get sexually aroused by wearing opposite gender clothing and pretending to be the opposite sex.

I've even seen where guys get an apparatus to feed infants from their chests....getting sexually stimulated by feeding a baby?

Sorry but these twisted biscuits can not be any part of my friend circle. And any who try will be met with hostility for believing we have anything in common.

 

[JohnDB]

Then nearly ALL of the rampaging mass shootings lately have been committed by trans people.

So....
I'm having a difficult time figuring out how these people add value to my life in spite of EVERYTHING Paul says in Romans 1&2 about them and the headlines about their misdeeds of shooting schools, theaters, malls, and people on holiday walking in tourist sections in town.
Not to mention rapes and beatings of innocents in bathrooms.
Then there's the pedophiles....who want to sexualize gradeschool children with transgender reading story hour at your local public library.

 

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Transgendering isn't specifically addressed in the Bible, viz: it's a gray area,
and as such ought to be approached in accord with the 14th chapter of
Romans which says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage
Christian transgenders with debating nor abuse them with judgmental
criticism.

What do you mean, not addressed in the Bible?

Deuteronomy 2:5
5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God..../KJV

It seems pretty clear to me. Havent you ever seen that before?

I admit I dont really know a lot about transgenders (or transvestites) But don't Trans people change their dress code with their identity or do Trans men continue to dress like men? Of course they start dressing like a woman. So how would that not be included in it being an abomination like that verse says?

I have yet to figure out why it is that so many Christians are in the habit of
conflating gender dysphoria with gays and lesbians; but I suspect the
mistake is due to a failure on their part to research the condition-- easily
done by simply taking the time to look for it on YouTube.

How are they not gay? They are all Gay, all of the abc+p+ people. They are gay and seeking me to understand them? I'm sorry but that's not in my job description. I would be hesitatnt to get them a drink of water, let alone let them into my house! Geez, talk about a home invasion!

All of those gay people are in direct rebellion to God the Creator. That's why they're not welcome. Please dont try to explain to us about how we should "research" them and understand them! I'd rather talk a person who is repentant and seeking God and to be able to shake that stuff off! Tell us about a repentant gay, and perhaps we can help?

Do you know any that are repentant? Or do you only seek for us to accept them as they are, gay. Drag queens are gay, all Trannys are gay. Who needs 'em? There's undoubtably an evil spirit (or many) behind this movement that you speak of. So if it's spiritual then it is dangerous to rub elbows with these people. Geez an evil spirit might enter me and try to make me gay! (They have to leave). I'd bet you a dollar that being gay is addictive, just like everything else on this fallen world. And us Christians arent really all that good at discerning when a spirit is there that might accidently enter them, and then what? Spirit of gay in my house?! No Thanks.

That's nuts. We could give all the gays their own island, but then they'd die off, so they have to stay in society and prey on your children...Hope they dont get your children!

 

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If you ask me: the real sinners in the world of transgender are the parents,
and the supposedly competent adults in education and the medical
professions, who get kids as young as 12 and 13 started on cross-sex
chemicals which in time have the potential to result in sterility, early-onset
menopause, and irreversible changes to a kid's physical characteristics.

The tragedy of it all is that quite a few youngsters are experimenting with
transgendering while too young to fully comprehend the gravity of what they
are doing to themselves. For example when pre-pubescent girls are told they
may never be able to have children of their own should they choose to go
the distance with transgendering, many don't care because they haven't
matured enough yet to perceive what it's like to be a mommy. Pre
pubescent girls often view children as a messy nuisance.

And then there's also the permanent loss of libido; which is a loss common
to both boys and girls. Pre-pubescent kids have yet to experience full-on
libido and thus are unable to appreciate its value in adulthood.

For example; my first experience with chemo-therapy for esophageal cancer
quenched my normal libido considerably; and I began regarding women as
unsanitary beasts rather than the alluring creatures they're meant to be.
Well; I was very relieved when my libido got back up to speed after
completing chemo, but kids who pursue transgendering to the max quite
possibly will never even get to have a taste of that particular fact of life.

So-called "informed consent" isn't possible with pre-pubescent kids because
they just simply aren't old enough yet to appreciate the risks. For example:
we were babysitting a good friend's little girl one evening while watching
Michael Jackson perform on the television. Teen-age girls in the audience
were screaming and weeping; so our friend's little girl wanted to know why
they were crying like that. My wife explained: "When you get older; you'll
understand" Well I can just about guarantee that with enough cross-sex
chemicals in their systems (e.g. testosterone and puberty blocker) little girls
will never be old enough to understand and thus they'll miss the star-struck
excitement that makes a growing girl's teen-age years so special.
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What do you mean, not addressed in the Bible?

Deuteronomy 2:5
5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the Lord thy God..../KJV

It seems pretty clear to me. Havent you ever seen that before?

I admit I dont really know a lot about transgenders (or transvestites) But don't Trans people change their dress code with their identity or do Trans men continue to dress like men? Of course they start dressing like a woman. So how would that not be included in it being an abomination like that verse says?



How are they not gay? They are all Gay, all of the abc+p+ people. They are gay and seeking me to understand them? I'm sorry but that's not in my job description. I would be hesitatnt to get them a drink of water, let alone let them into my house! Geez, talk about a home invasion!

All of those gay people are in direct rebellion to God the Creator. That's why they're not welcome. Please dont try to explain to us about how we should "research" them and understand them! I'd rather talk a person who is repentant and seeking God and to be able to shake that stuff off! Tell us about a repentant gay, and perhaps we can help?

Do you know any that are repentant? Or do you only seek for us to accept them as they are, gay. Drag queens are gay, all Trannys are gay. Who needs 'em? There's undoubtably an evil spirit (or many) behind this movement that you speak of. So if it's spiritual then it is dangerous to rub elbows with these people. Geez an evil spirit might enter me and try to make me gay! (They have to leave). I'd bet you a dollar that being gay is addictive, just like everything else on this fallen world. And us Christians arent really all that good at discerning when a spirit is there that might accidently enter them, and then what? Spirit of gay in my house?! No Thanks.

That's nuts. We could give all the gays their own island, but then they'd die off, so they have to stay in society and prey on your children...Hope they dont get your children!

Some dont read the Bible, and pick up evils lies to say the least...

 

[MA2444]

Some dont read the Bible, and pick up evils lies to say the least...

If people accept the trans (gays) then what is next? Will the people who fiddle with animals sexually start to call for their own acceptance? Geez, gays are bad enough.

Somebody lock the door.

 

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Probably no entertainer understood a child's need for acceptance better than
Mr. Rogers.

Herein are the lyrics to one of his songs-- addressed to every kid watching
his show regardless of age, race, and/or gender. It's sort of self explanatory;
so I offer no comments to go with it.

I like you as you are.
Exactly and precisely,
I think you turned out nicely;
And I like you as you are.

I like you as you are.
Without a doubt or question,
Or even a suggestion;
Cause I like you as you are.

I like your disposition,
Your facial composition,
And with your kind permission,
I’ll shout it to a star.

I like you as you are.
I wouldn’t want to change you,
Or even rearrange you;
Not by far.

I like you.
I L-I-K-E Y-O-U
I like you, yes I do.
I like you, Y-O-U,
I like you: like you as you are.
Music and Lyrics by Josie Carey & Fred Rogers
© McFeely-Rogers Foundation.
All Rights Reserved.
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FAQ: Why do do the transgender movers and shakers insist upon starting
children as young as 12-13 on the road to changing their sex?

REPLY: The thing is: in order for transgenders to successfully pass as
women, and/or successfully pass as men; they pretty much have to begin
making changes to their body in sync with nature's puberty clock; which
presents a relatively brief window of opportunity.

Should they begin transitioning after the window has expired-- say at 17 or
18 -- their body will very likely be stuck in whatever physical configuration
nature gave it. In other words: transitioning girls will be stuck with hips and
a soft appearance etc, and transitioning boys will be stuck with whiskers and
a rugged appearance etc.

So timing is crucial in the transgender process; which can actually work to a
parent's advantage. If moms and dads can manage to keep their underage
children off of cross-sex medications during those critical puberty years, it
will become much easier in the long run to persuade them to stay as they
are because adult boys and girls are typically lots more sensible, and a lot
less impressionable, than those in the 12-13 range.
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Eve was the first to taste the forbidden fruit, and when she did; nothing
happened. She went right on unashamed in the buff the same as before, viz:
it wasn't till Adam tasted the fruit that Eve became sensitive about her
body's appearance naked.

Now the thing is: Eve was constructed with material taken from Adam's
body, but she was already fully formed and fully sentient prior to his tasting
the fruit so it was too late for Adam's eating to effect Eve by means of
heredity.

So: if Eve's feelings about her naked body weren't altered by means of the
fruit, and if her feelings weren't altered by means of heredity; then by what?

Mr. Serpent is the logical source (a.k.a. the Devil & Satan, Rev 20:2) He has
the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper with the human
body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke 13:16,
Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.

The Serpent was apparently all set and ready to wield his power the moment
that Adam crossed the line and ate that fruit. It amazes me how quickly it
takes effect. Not long after Adam tasted the fruit, he and his wife both
immediately set to work cobbling together some rudimentary aprons to
cover their pelvic areas.

FAQ: So you think this Devil of yours has something to do with the current
wave of gender dysphoria?

REPLY: Yes.

FAQ: The entire gender dysphoria mechanism? --educators, students,
medical professionals, psychiatric counselors, parents, and various government
agencies at State and Federal levels, etc --are caught up in some sort of
paranormal master plan?

REPLY: Yes.

* Ironically the progressive element in our midst is called "woke" when in
reality it is actually under the influence of a very powerful kind of hypnosis
about which we thus far know very little; and you hot-shot pulpit pounders
out there need to be very careful how you behave yourselves in talks with
these folks.

"The Lord's servants must not quarrel but must be kind to everyone. They
must be able to teach effectively, and be patient with difficult people. They
should gently teach those who oppose the truth. Perhaps God will change
those people's hearts, and they will believe the truth. Then they will come to
their senses and escape from the Devil's trap. For they have been held
captive by him to do whatever he wants." (2Tim 2:23-26)
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[JohnDB]

As if something different was going to happen....

 

[Behold]

Romans which says, in so many words, that we are not permitted to engage
Christian transgenders with debating nor abuse them with judgmental
criticism.

Nonsense....

Listen,

As Christians, we are to be "salt and light".....we are to be a moral compass that directs the immoral into the Light so that they might find JESUS, as their way out of Satan's Darkness.

 

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A full transgender process typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross-sex
hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery. Unfortunately the
results of a full process aren't always satisfactory, rather, quite disappointing
as patients sometimes find themselves saddled with inconvenient side
effects and unpleasant complications.

To top it off: thus far the process has been unable to replicate real men and
women. No; at best the process has managed to produce only artificial men
and women that don't function near as well as patients were led to expect.

But that's not all-- there's also the afterlife to consider, which has the
potential to make transgendering a futile expenditure of one's resolve.

● John 3:1-2 . . Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a
member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said:
"Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one
could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

Pharisees in that day were very pious men-- typically educated, and highly
respected. To my knowledge, this man was neither gay nor afflicted with
gender dysphoria. So considering his qualities; Jesus' response is very
curious.

● John 3:3 . . In reply Jesus declared: "I tell you the truth, no one can see
the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

The Greek word translated "again" basically means from above. In other
words, Jesus wasn't speaking of a ritual or a sacred rite; no, he was
speaking of an act of God.

The thing to note is that this particular act of God isn't optional, rather, it's
required, i.e. there are no exceptions and no exemptions to this rule
regardless of one's moral perfections and/or imperfections, and regardless of
age, race, religion, social/financial/political status, and/or gender identity.

● John 3:7 . . You must be born again.

We're all equals in that respect, therefore:

● Rom 15:5-7 . . May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give
you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that
with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord
Jesus Christ. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order
to bring praise to God.
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A full transgender process
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This process proves that when you enable "crazy", then you promote it.

 

[Hobie]

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A full transgender process typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross-sex
hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery. Unfortunately the
results of a full process aren't always satisfactory, rather, quite disappointing
as patients sometimes find themselves saddled with inconvenient side
effects and unpleasant complications.

To top it off: thus far the process has been unable to replicate real men and
women. No; at best the process has managed to produce only artificial men
and women that don't function near as well as patients were led to expect.

But that's not all-- there's also the afterlife to consider, which has the
potential to make transgendering a futile expenditure of one's resolve.

● John 3:1-2 . . Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a
member of the Jewish ruling council. He came to Jesus at night and said:
"Rabbi, we know you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one
could perform the miraculous signs you are doing if God were not with him."

Pharisees in that day were very pious men-- typically educated, and highly
respected. To my knowledge, this man was neither gay nor afflicted with
gender dysphoria. So considering his qualities; Jesus' response is very
curious.

● John 3:3 . . In reply Jesus declared: "I tell you the truth, no one can see
the kingdom of God unless he is born again."

The Greek word translated "again" basically means from above. In other
words, Jesus wasn't speaking of a ritual or a sacred rite; no, he was
speaking of an act of God.

The thing to note is that this particular act of God isn't optional, rather, it's
required, i.e. there are no exceptions and no exemptions to this rule
regardless of one's moral perfections and/or imperfections, and regardless of
age, race, religion, social/financial/political status, and/or gender identity.

● John 3:7 . . You must be born again.

We're all equals in that respect, therefore:

● Rom 15:5-7 . . May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give
you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus, so that
with one heart and mouth you may glorify the God and Father of our Lord
Jesus Christ. Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you, in order
to bring praise to God.
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You are teaching doctrines of devils my brother ..

 

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Peru's Government Officially Classifies Trans, Nonbinary, and Intersex as 'Mentally Ill' People | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft

The Peruvian government has taken a firm stand on the issue of gender identity.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

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Thus far my comments have been relative to folks who've undergone a full
transgender process; which typically includes psychiatric counseling, cross
sex hormones, puberty blockers, and specialized surgery.

I am very tolerant of those people, whereas I am greatly discontented with
guys competing in women's sports whose bodies fail to display even the
slightest hint of femininity, i.e. they are not taking cross-sex hormones, nor
have they undergone any of the appropriate surgeries.

In my judicious estimation: guys insisting they are women while still in
possession of their full and complete natural manhood, are frauds and
shameless cheats right down there in the dirt with the lowest of wolves in
sheep's clothing we might name.

I would recommend not only shunning a Christian man who competes in
women's sports solely on the basis of his "identifying" as a woman, but to
avoid all association with that guy-- both in church and out of church --lest
his churlish scruples rub off on us.

● 1Cor 15:33 . . Do not be misled: Bad company corrupts good character.
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