Sabbath and the New Covenant

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Jack

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Galatians 3:24-2
24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.

I wonder if any of the Law preachers get circumcised as the Law COMMANDS!
 
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Exodus 31:15 Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Not a request. You can't just pick the parts you like.
You mean like you do? That is exactly what you do.
 

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Exodus 31:15 Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

Not a request. You can't just pick the parts you like.
Exactly. Whenever these law preachers today set out to keep the sabbath day, are they truly keeping the sabbath day according to scripture? To "keep the sabbath day" as it was required in the Old Testament under the old covenant of law involved compliance with specific regulations (Exodus 16:23; 35:3; Leviticus 23:32; Jeremiah 17:21) that were strictly enforced.

If sabbath day observances are still required today, then so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). So, no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath. (Exodus 35:3) Every man must remain in his place on the sabbath. (Exodus 16:29) No trading. (Amos 8:5) No marketing. (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19)

*These regulations were commanded by God to Israel. (Exodus 31:16-17; 35:1-3)

If keeping the sabbath day is still in effect today, then why don't these law preachers/misguided teachers of the law seek to obey ALL that the Lord has commanded? How can they keep a certain law when they only keep part of it? If the sabbath day laws were still in effect today, then according to Exodus 31:12-18; 35:1-3; and Numbers 15:32-36, anyone who profaned the sabbath was put to death and any person who does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from his people.

Now who is going to enforce that? The Jewish synagogue? The Seventh day Adventist church or perhaps the government? Since we do not live under a theocratic state as ancient Israel did under the old covenant of law, no Sabbatarian today can live consistently under these Mosaic regulations.
 
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Since believers are commanded not to transgress the Law of God, why mention only the Law that pertains to keeping of the Sabbath day? Isn't ALL of God's Law equally important and not to be transgressed? If we're going to argue the faithful MUST be obedient to the Old Law of God (before Christ), should we not also argue for all the Levitical Laws that God has commanded? Why is our focus only on one Law, and ignore the FACT that Christ came and fulfilled ALL the Law of God commanded?

The Old Covenant Law keepers did not enter into the REST of Christ because they kept the Law of God in unbelief. But in Christ we do enter into rest (Sabbath) when we are of faith through Him. And we rest (keep sabbath) with Him every day of the week. Those who seek to be in Christ through the Levitical Law by resting only one day of the week (Saturday or Sunday) in Him, have not entered into REST with Him.

Truth is that now Christ is our Sabbath and we REST in Him, knowing that one day is NOT better than another, and we should rest in Christ EVERYDAY, and not only one day of the week. Every day we rest equally through the finished work of Christ, our Lord and Saviour.

Hebrews 4:8-11 (KJV) For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest (sabbatism) to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

If we think being obedient to the Law of God one day of the week is entering into the Kingdom of God through Christ and how we shall be saved, then we have not entered into the finished work of Christ, and we're still in unbelief.
Only the Ten Commandments are Gods Law written with His own finger..
 
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I came across a study by Roy Gane, one of the authors of books I have who is very in depth. Here are some excerpts on this issue..

Is the seventh day Sabbath a universal institution, or was it only for the literal Israelites?
My short answer to this question is: The seventh day Sabbath is universal because it was instituted at Creation for the benefit of all human beings, before the nation of Israel existed. This answer is based upon exegesis of Genesis 2:2-3, which reads:
2:2 And on the seventh day God finished the work that he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all the work that he had done.2:3 So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all the work that he had done in creation.
God rested, i.e. ceased,(1) his work at the end of the Creation week because his work was done, not because he was tired (cp. Isa 40:28; Ps. 121:3-4).(2) On the seventh day he stopped to celebrate what could be regarded as the "birthday" of the world.
There is evidence that God intended not only to celebrate, but also to provide an example for human beings.

Exodus 31:17 refers to God being "refreshed" as a result of his rest on the seventh day of Creation. The verb translated "refreshed" here, i.e. npsh is used only three times in the Hebrew Bible (all Niphal stem): Exod 31:17; 2 Sam 16:14; and Exod 23:12. In 2 Samuel 16:14, the verb npsh describes David and his people recovering from fatigue induced by their flight from Absalom (2 Sam 16:14). Exodus 23:12 reiterates the Sabbath command given in the Ten Commandments (Exod 20:8-11):
23:12 Six days you shall do your work, but on the seventh day you shall rest, so that your ox and your donkey may have relief, and your homeborn slave and the resident alien may be refreshed.

In this context, rest (verb nwh) on the seventh day Sabbath clearly relieves the fatigue of human beings and animals (cp. Deut 5:14) and refreshes (verb npsh) them. Now the question arises: If the verb npsh describes relief from fatigue in Exodus 23:12 and 2 Samuel 16:14, why does Exodus 31:17 use the same word with reference to God being "refreshed"? The answer lies in the purpose of Exodus 31:12-17, which is to have God's people follow his example by resting on the seventh day of the week (Cassuto: 1967: 245,404; Sailhamer 1992: 309). Even though God did not need rest from fatigue, the Bible here speaks of him anthropomorphically(3) as receiving some kind of refreshing benefit (Sarna 1991: 202) in order to show people how to rest on the seventh day, as a result of which they would gain relief from fatigue (Exod 23:12).

Lest it should seem strange that God would do something as an example for human beings, consider two similar cases:

1. In the Israelite ritual system, the blood of a sacrificial animal was drained out and applied to the outside or horns of the altar in the courtyard (see e.g. Lev 1:5; 4:25) or to the area of the outer sanctum and the horns of the incense altar (Lev 4:6,7) with the remainder disposed of by pouring it out at the base of the outer altar (Lev 4:7). The blood did not go up to God in smoke along with the meat as a "pleasing aroma" (see e.g. Lev 1:9). Why not? Because the meat constituted a "food gift" to God (cp. Num 28:2)(4) and God had commanded the Israelites not to eat meat without draining out the blood because the blood represents the life (Lev 17:10-12; cp. Gen 9:4). By not eating blood with their meat, the Israelites acknowledged that they did not have ultimate control over life. But God did have such control. So why didn't he show it by accepting blood with his meat? Apparently because he wanted to be an example to his people, thereby practicing what he preached.

2. Jesus asked John the Baptist to baptize him, but John recognized that Jesus did not need baptism (Matt 3:13-14). Baptism symbolizes purification from sin (Rom 6:1-5), but Jesus was sinless (Heb 4:15). Nevertheless, Jesus insisted that John baptize him, saying to him:
"Let it be so now; for it is proper for us in this way to fulfill all righteousness" (Matt 3:15).
So Jesus went through the motions of baptism because it is part of a righteous human life, even though the righteousness which he already possessed transcended the fallen state and did not require baptism.

Thus far, we have found that God's rest served as an example for human Sabbath observance. But did this example begin to operate thousands of years after Creation, or did God intend for human beings to follow his example from the beginning? Jesus succinctly answered the question by declaring that "the Sabbath was made for humankind . . ." (Mk 2:27). He viewed the original purpose of the Sabbath as providing benefit to human beings. This means that when God rested on the seventh day of Creation, he did not simply intend to benefit himself.
It is true that there is nothing in the text of Genesis 2 which explicitly tells us that the Sabbath was made for human beings as Jesus later declared. Nor does Genesis state that the Sabbath is to be an on-going, cyclical event, occurring on each seventh day. However, Genesis did not need to explicitly state these things because the context makes them clear....
Good morning Hobie, Amen, Thank you for sharing.

Love, Walter And Debbie
 
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In this context, rest (verb nwh) on the seventh day Sabbath clearly relieves the fatigue of human beings and animals (cp. Deut 5:14) and refreshes (verb npsh) them. Now the question arises: If the verb npsh describes relief from fatigue in Exodus 23:12 and 2 Samuel 16:14, why does Exodus 31:17 use the same word with reference to God being "refreshed"? The answer lies in the purpose of Exodus 31:12-17, which is to have God's people follow his example by resting on the seventh day of the week (Cassuto: 1967: 245,404; Sailhamer 1992: 309). Even though God did not need rest from fatigue, the Bible here speaks of him anthropomorphically(3) as receiving some kind of refreshing benefit (Sarna 1991: 202) in order to show people how to rest on the seventh day, as a result of which they would gain relief from fatigue (Exod 23:12).

Re: <The answer lies in the purpose of Exodus 31:12-17, which is to have God's people follow his example by resting on the seventh day of the week.>
The word npsh is used with reference to God, being "refreshed"; not <to have God's people follow his example>. God is the Subject, the Doer; it is God who "was relieved"--- from 'fatigue', an idea and word for it, added and added arbitrarily. The word <npsh>, <in this context> of Exodus 31:12-17, more than <describes relief from fatigue>, and like in other Scriptures and contexts, per se primarily and essentially means "life" / "spirit" / "breath" / "life" per se---it <needs> no additional ideas or words to describe, itself.
So Roy Gane doesn't go deep enough. In fact Roy Gane and you barely keep afloat. "12the LORD spake... I-AM the LORD saying... My Sabbaths ye shall keep ... for the LORD ... on the Seventh Day : HE : rested, HE WAS REVIVED".
Christ ROSE from the DEAD--REVIVED--<npsh>.

For what not? Died Christ not and ROSE again? Died He not and "the third day RISE"? Came Christ not up from the sea and grave of sin "THE LORD A MAN OF WAR - HE GREATLY TRIUMPED"?

O no no no, even you Sabbath keepers are afraid to admit.
 

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Only the Ten Commandments are Gods Law written with His own finger..
Jesus drove out devils with "the Finger of God", therefore ALL the Law of God is written by the Holy Spirit of God, as also is God's Law which mortal sinners under its death penalty today, without the fear of God are calling 'Moses' Law' - 'the Mosaic Law' like is it any despicable thing they love, and THINK THEY ARE GOING TO GET AWAY WITH IT AND MOREOVER EARN GOD'S APPROVAL.

It is just as serious and fatal a thing to refuse the "operation of the Spirit of Holiness whereby the Son being raised from the dead was declared THE SON OF GOD." - Romans 1:3-4.

Don't say you never heard this Scripture, Seventh day Adventist! This SCRIPTURE stands written in Paul's Letter to the Romans and "was read" - together with the Law of Moses - "every sabbath in the church". It stands written in Romans 1:3-4, an INTRODUCTION TO THE CHURCH'S liturgical READING OF THE SCRIPTURES IN ALL THE WORLD EVERY LORD'S DAY SABBATH OF THE LORD YOUR GOD.
 
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If sabbath day observances are still required today, then so would the burnt offerings which went along with them (Leviticus 19:30; 23:2-3; Numbers 28:1-10; 29:39-40; I Chronicles. 23:30-31; II Chronicles 31:2-4; Isaiah 1:13). So, no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath. (Exodus 35:3) Every man must remain in his place on the sabbath. (Exodus 16:29) No trading. (Amos 8:5) No marketing. (Nehemiah 10:31; 13:15,19)
Absolutely so . . . <If>! <sabbath day observances are still required today...>
<If sabbath day observances are still required today...>
BUT they aren't!
So, no more no kindling a fire in any of your dwellings on the sabbath today, because no more sabbath day observances are still required today.

So, no more no remaining in one's house on the sabbath all day, because no more sabbath day observances are still required today.

And so, no trading, no marketing, since these were no Sabbath observances and today still are no Sabbath observances because God never made them Sabbath observances!