THE 6TH TRUMPET ONLY REPRESENTS "GREAT TRIB" TIME

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Only pointing to the Trumpets with this.

One of the greatest mistakes many have made in trying to understand the event order written in Revelation is with thinking they happen exactly in the order that John wrote them down, like all the Seals happen first, and then all the Trumpets happen, and then all the Vials happen, in that order. However, they do not.

The 21 SIGNS in Christ's Book of Revelation are actually about the SAME 7 SIGNS of the end He gave in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13. The final SIGN Jesus gave there is that of His future return and gathering of His faithful Church.


Satan and his angels appear on earth under the 6th Seal (first part), 6th Trumpet, and 6th Vial. That is what the 666 figure is actually about.

Lord Jesus' return is represented with the 7th Seal (6th Seal second part with 7th Seal representing a final selah), 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial, the 777 figure.


This is why the 6th Seal (2nd part) shows the time of His wrath, and the event of the heavens rolled up as scroll and every island moved, and the 7th Trumpet also shows the time of His wrath, and the 7th Vial also shows the islands fled away along with His wrath. Many think the 7th Seal represents a problem with this, when it actually does not...

In the Psalms, which actually means 'songs' that are sung, it uses a 'rest' at times, with the word 'selah'. That selah acts as a pause, and represents a time to ponder on what was said. Likewise the 7th Seal represents a 'selah' time pause, or rest, and as a pointer to what was just shown (i.e., the previous 6 Seals). Why might that be the case? It's because those Seals in the Revelation 6 Chapter follow the 7 Signs Jesus first showed in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13. So in reality, in the 6 Seals, He is showing us the full group of endtime events to happen leading up to His future return. Then 7th Seal SELAH, think about all that, i.e., those previous Rev.6 Seals.

The fact that Lord Jesus gave 3 Woes linked to the LAST 3 Trumpets reveals He especially wants us to grasp the events given within those 3 periods.


1.
5th Trumpet - 1st Woe
= the time when the locust army is working upon the earth to prepare the world for the coming Antichrist. This is especially shown about that locust army first written of in the Old Testament Book of Joel. God uses the symbols of locusts and the teeth of lions, and the idea of an unstoppable army to describe them, yet defines them there also as "a nation" that has come upon His people. That's the same locust idea given in Revelation 9. So if you don't study the Book of Joel about the locusts, then you will miss a lot of what God is loosing them upon the earth for, and He reveals in Joel 2 that the locusts represent an army He sends upon the earth. For modern events of our day, the locusts represent the world controllers that serve Lucifer and their plan for a "one world government" over all nations and peoples. The Antichrist is not appeared yet at this stage. This stage is about the taking over of the powers upon this earth.


2.
6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe
= the opening up of the symbolic river border of Euphrates, the river which represents the original northern most border between God's people and His enemies.

This event is a set period of time, i.e, the time of "great tribulation". This is when the locusts as false priests symbolic of an army, will attack the world to deceive by what comes out of their MOUTHS, for as written their power is in their mouths. This is when the Antichrist/Satan will appear on earth, claiming to be GOD and His Christ, working great signs and wonders and miracles to deceive the whole world.

This 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe period flows from Rev.9:12 unto Rev.11:14. During this period another Jewish temple will be built by the Antichrist in today's Jerusalem, and the Orthodox Jews will have the old covenant worship re-instituted. That is what the Rev.11:1-2 Scripture is showing with those who worship inside that temple, with the outer court left for the Gentiles, and they will tread the holy city (Jerusalem) for 42 months (1260 days), the same 42 months the Antichrist of Rev.13:4-8 is given to work on earth. That points to "great tribulation" timing.

The Rev.10 chapter represents a pause to reflect, a parenthetical chapter.

3.
7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe
= Revelation 11:15 forward, the time of Christ's future return, the day of His wrath upon the wicked (6th Seal, 7th Vial).
 

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The Great Tribulation begins when the Abomination of Desolation is set up.

Matthew 24:15-21. Daniel 12:11-12.

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The 7th trumpet angel sounds and the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth begins. Which will be Satan cast down to the earth, having great wrath, Revelation 12:12, knowing his time is short, a time/times/half time, Revelation 12:14.
 
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Satan and his angels appear on earth under the 6th Seal (first part), 6th Trumpet, and 6th Vial. That is what the 666 figure is actually about.
No, the 666 is the number of the beast's name. The number of a man.

Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.
 
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Only pointing to the Trumpets with this.

One of the greatest mistakes many have made in trying to understand the event order written in Revelation is with thinking they happen exactly in the order that John wrote them down, like all the Seals happen first, and then all the Trumpets happen, and then all the Vials happen, in that order. However, they do not.

The 21 SIGNS in Christ's Book of Revelation are actually about the SAME 7 SIGNS of the end He gave in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13. The final SIGN Jesus gave there is that of His future return and gathering of His faithful Church.


Satan and his angels appear on earth under the 6th Seal (first part), 6th Trumpet, and 6th Vial. That is what the 666 figure is actually about.

Lord Jesus' return is represented with the 7th Seal (6th Seal second part with 7th Seal representing a final selah), 7th Trumpet, and 7th Vial, the 777 figure.


This is why the 6th Seal (2nd part) shows the time of His wrath, and the event of the heavens rolled up as scroll and every island moved, and the 7th Trumpet also shows the time of His wrath, and the 7th Vial also shows the islands fled away along with His wrath. Many think the 7th Seal represents a problem with this, when it actually does not...

In the Psalms, which actually means 'songs' that are sung, it uses a 'rest' at times, with the word 'selah'. That selah acts as a pause, and represents a time to ponder on what was said. Likewise the 7th Seal represents a 'selah' time pause, or rest, and as a pointer to what was just shown (i.e., the previous 6 Seals). Why might that be the case? It's because those Seals in the Revelation 6 Chapter follow the 7 Signs Jesus first showed in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24 and Mark 13. So in reality, in the 6 Seals, He is showing us the full group of endtime events to happen leading up to His future return. Then 7th Seal SELAH, think about all that, i.e., those previous Rev.6 Seals.

The fact that Lord Jesus gave 3 Woes linked to the LAST 3 Trumpets reveals He especially wants us to grasp the events given within those 3 periods.


1.
5th Trumpet - 1st Woe
= the time when the locust army is working upon the earth to prepare the world for the coming Antichrist. This is especially shown about that locust army first written of in the Old Testament Book of Joel. God uses the symbols of locusts and the teeth of lions, and the idea of an unstoppable army to describe them, yet defines them there also as "a nation" that has come upon His people. That's the same locust idea given in Revelation 9. So if you don't study the Book of Joel about the locusts, then you will miss a lot of what God is loosing them upon the earth for, and He reveals in Joel 2 that the locusts represent an army He sends upon the earth. For modern events of our day, the locusts represent the world controllers that serve Lucifer and their plan for a "one world government" over all nations and peoples. The Antichrist is not appeared yet at this stage. This stage is about the taking over of the powers upon this earth.


2.
6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe
= the opening up of the symbolic river border of Euphrates, the river which represents the original northern most border between God's people and His enemies.

This event is a set period of time, i.e, the time of "great tribulation". This is when the locusts as false priests symbolic of an army, will attack the world to deceive by what comes out of their MOUTHS, for as written their power is in their mouths. This is when the Antichrist/Satan will appear on earth, claiming to be GOD and His Christ, working great signs and wonders and miracles to deceive the whole world.

This 6th Trumpet - 2nd Woe period flows from Rev.9:12 unto Rev.11:14. During this period another Jewish temple will be built by the Antichrist in today's Jerusalem, and the Orthodox Jews will have the old covenant worship re-instituted. That is what the Rev.11:1-2 Scripture is showing with those who worship inside that temple, with the outer court left for the Gentiles, and they will tread the holy city (Jerusalem) for 42 months (1260 days), the same 42 months the Antichrist of Rev.13:4-8 is given to work on earth. That points to "great tribulation" timing.

The Rev.10 chapter represents a pause to reflect, a parenthetical chapter.

3.
7th Trumpet - 3rd Woe
= Revelation 11:15 forward, the time of Christ's future return, the day of His wrath upon the wicked (6th Seal, 7th Vial).
"""So if you don't study the Book of Joel about the locusts, then you will miss a lot of what God is loosing them upon the earth for, and He reveals in Joel 2 that the locusts represent an army He sends upon the earth. For modern events of our day, the locusts represent the world controllers that serve Lucifer and their plan for a "one world government" over all nations and peoples. The Antichrist is not appeared yet at this stage. This stage is about the taking over of the powers upon this earth."""

This is way off.
The flying scorpions are on earth to sting unbelievers .
Jews are ushered to safety and 144k are sealed against them.
The scorpions are vividly described as actual insects with powerful stings.
No way do they represent what you are saying.
 

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The Great Tribulation begins when the Abomination of Desolation is set up.

Matthew 24:15-21. Daniel 12:11-12.

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The 7th trumpet angel sounds and the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth begins. Which will be Satan cast down to the earth, having great wrath, Revelation 12:12, knowing his time is short, a time/times/half time, Revelation 12:14.
the AC kicks off the trib, GT, 7 YR TRIB or what ever you want to call it..
He arrives and establishes the one world system, which requires the mark.
Massive martyrdom right from the start of the GT...or trib, or whatever the modern terminology calls the 7 yr GT.
Those that over emphacise the vials, seals and trumpets, get so many things crosswise, because with the trumpets, Jesus appears to John before the vision with a trumpet voice.
So way too much error margine in a trumpet coming fixed interpretation
 

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the AC kicks off the trib, GT, 7 YR TRIB or what ever you want to call it..
Need to refine that, rebuilder big block chevy, I presume. :).

The Antichrist begins the 7 year 70th week of Daniel 9:27 by making a big speech from the temple mount that God gave the land of Israel to the children of Israel as theirs forever. Moses made a requirement for that sort of speech back in Deuteronomy 31:9-13. Mose also required that it be done on a 7 year cycle. Hence the "he will confirm the covenant with many for one week".

That starts the 7 years and what will be the perceived as the beginning of the messianic age, which the world will be saying peace and safety. No global government to begin with. The Antichrist politically will have become the King of Israel, anointed so by the false prophet, as the Jews will think the Antichrist person is their long awaited messiah.

Everything will go along smoothly for around 3 years, during which another temple will be built on the temple mount and animal sacrifices will be started again.... when suddenly without warning everything implodes.

When the Antichrist stops the daily sacrifice of the two lambs, and goes into the temple into the Holy of Holies chamber, sits, and declares that he has achieved God-hood. That act will be what is known in Daniel 8:12-13 as the transgression of desolation.

God's reaction to the outlandish act will be to bring strangers against the revealed man of sin and has him assassinated. Ezekiel 28:1-10.

Then in Isaiah 14:18-20, in disdain for the person, God brings him back to life, in part because some people will believe the revealed man of sin's outlandish claim, and also as part of God's plan to end Satan's impact on the human race and creation.

On his return to life, the person will become possessed by the spirit of the (former garden of Eden) serpent beast, that will be allowed to come out of the bottomless pit.

The possessed person, fore-named the beast in Revelation 13 that is mortally wounded but healed, will sit up in his casket and will claim to have overcome death and the grave. He will gain a lot of world wide followers at that time, as they will be dumbfounded by what they see.

The ten kings, leaders of the EU, will hand their EU kingdom over to him to be leader of it. Although not a one world government, the EU will be the dominant kingdom globally, and will joined by western nations. They will be controlling all of the middle east oil from that time forward.

The false prophet will have the people of the world make a statue image of the beast-king, and will place it on the temple mount, 1335 days before Jesus returns, as the abomination of desolation which triggers the beginning of the great tribulation.

The 7 trumpet judgements, the 7 vials of God's wrath, and Satan's wrath because he will be cast down to earth, knowing that he will have but a time/time/half time left, the martyrdom of the great tribulation saints - all take place during the great tribulation.
 
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