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amadeus

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I went back to edit because I do that a lot and I wanted to be clear. I used to think that man beholding his natural face, that goes his way and forgets what manner of man he was. As a good thing. For instance I’ll remember their sins no more.
When in when I was in Viet Nam [US Army] 1964-1965. Most of my platoon members were about my age [20-21] and to this day now I can see all of their faces in my mind just like they were over 50 years ago...unchanged. Two of them that never made it home alive I see that way just the same as all those who did come back. The ones who lived on as I did have certainly changed and perhaps I would not even recognize them today if I were to see them... I cannot forget the faces and for me there is only one unchanged face.

Not so my brothers who I have known all of my life. I can remember how they looked in years past and what they look like today. More than one image in my mind for each of them.

Where are we ourselves in this? Have we forgotten where we were in our own past and how we looked? Was it different than it is today?
But now with the reference to deceiving themselves…I question if remembering what manner of man he was, is what keeps him from exalting himself and deceiving himself which then causes hatred and being lifted up against his brothers. Does that make sense? Example did Paul forget what he had done to Stephen? If like Moses, Saul looked into the bush burning with Fire …Saul may have looked away to go his way and forget what manner of man he was. Instead did Paul continue therein …”Saul, Saul why persecute thou Me?” “Who are you Lord?” seeing Stephen and His death which he had consented to and kept the garments of those who stoned Stephen, why was the burning bush not consumed by the presence of the Fire?
Now I am old, a bit overweight, quite sparse on the top [nearly bald headed], wrinkled and comparatively frail... Do I see only that or do I see also anything of the young man pictured in my foto albums and memories?

Personality, attitudes toward people, loved or hated or indifferent? Have we changed since we met Jesus? Look to Paul as you have described him before he met Jesus and afterward...
 

farouk

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thank you! That is encouraging Amadeus!
James 1:24-25 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way,


and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
And Moses said, I will now turn aside, and see this great sight, why the bush is not burnt.


and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the bush, and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I.
And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.

25] But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.


Not in no way meaning anything about Moses only what you said
Turn to it,
Hear God's call,
Answer God's call,
Prepare yourself as God requires...

with “But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, …”
he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.
@VictoryinJesus The burning bush is a symbol that Presbyterians historically have used...

The spiritual power of God is I reckon thereby implied...
 
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@VictoryinJesus The burning bush is a symbol that Presbyterians historically have used...

The spiritual power of God is I reckon thereby implied...
I’m confused over the word symbol because of 2 Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

^A symbol maybe, but symbols for me, doesn’t do justice to the power of “changed”in 2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Not by symbol but by “with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord…from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
 

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I’m confused over the word symbol because of 2 Corinthians 3:13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

^A symbol maybe, but symbols for me, doesn’t do justice to the power of “changed”in 2 Corinthians 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Not by symbol but by “with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord…from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.”
@VictoryinJesus I re-read your post, which is a thoughtful one; had you considered re-stating it? because I'm not completely following what you might mean.