Secure Eternal Salvation

[BreadOfLife]

LOL....Everything is not about YOU, or about YOUR Catholic Church.

Hey - it's not "MY" Catholic Church - it's Christ's.
YOU do what you want.

So...if you finally recognize, Paul was persecuting “unconverted” believers...

Why were you preaching a HALF TRUTH ?

That was my POINT! Paul persecuted Jesus, men, women who were Believers, whether or not the men and women were “MEMBERS of Jesus Church”!
Your irrelevant accusations do not affect me, nor does it make your teaching of half truths advantages to anyone.
Your irrelevant accusations do not affect me, nor does it make your teaching of half truths advantages to anyone.

As usuyal - you vomit out nonsense about "claims" I never made.

Saul persecuted the Church, as I already proved to you with Scripture.
There is ZERO evidence that he persecuted "unconverted believers".

 

[BreadOfLife]

Funny how you resort to speaking for others then call that speech YOU SAY...
Fictional and silly....then wonder why people dismiss what YOU say.

What's even "funnier" is the YOUR pathetic need to inhect yoiurself into every conversation that doesn't concern you.

Maybe you should just try to defend the nonsense YOU are spewing and let others defend theirs.
You'll probably get into less trouble that way . . .. .

 

[BreadOfLife]

he's no longer an active member

Then take it up with his descendants.
If you don't like being a Pritestant - the DON'T be one.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Saul wasn't persecuting the Roman church, but Messianic Jews.
so, should the believing Jews be regarded as the head of the church?
or should you also be regarded as persecuting Christ, if you persecute non-catholic believers?

WHO said Sayl was persecuring the Church in Rome??
Paul was persecutiunbg the Church, period - and there was only ONE.

The Church in Rome or in Ephesus or in Corinth or in Glatia, etc. was ALL the same Church.
ONE Church in different locations.
Today, we call tthem "Dioceses and "Parishes".

 

[theefaith]

It's a very simple text:

"...and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Matthew 28:20
​

I mean, we understand his command to teach others to obey his commands, and that he is continually in and with us by his Holy Spirit (Colossians 1:27). What is it that we are supposed to see that really isn't there?

what he is commanding

 

[BreadOfLife]

My faith is in God. Unlike yours which is in men
I am not rejecting the truth, I am rejecting YOUR TRUTH

Spoken like a true moral relativist . . .

There is no "Your truth" v.s "My truth".
There is only Truth (John 14:6).

 

[Ferris Bueller]

what he is commanding

"...go and make disciplesd of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you." Matthew 28:19-20​

 

[BreadOfLife]

See,
The mere fact you call anyone who does not agree with you a Protestant. Shows your pride.

Your not showing me truth my friend. If you showed me truth, I could see what you say and the bible agree.. I have yet to see that in the doctrines we have discussed

Another falsehood - what a surprise . . .

NOT everyone who disagrees with the Catholic Church is a "Protestant".
A Protestant by definition are non-Catholic, non-Orthodox Christians. There are atheists and people of other religious affiliations that don't agree with thew Church who are not Protestants.
There are also many quasi-Christian sects that are not Protestant because they are not even Christian.

Must I keep having to post this??
prot·es·tant | \ ˈprä-tə-stənt , sense 2 is also prə-ˈte- \
Definition of protestant
(Entry 1 of 2)
1Protestant
a: any of a group of German princes and cities presenting a defense of freedom of conscience against an edict of the Diet of Speyer in 1529 intended to suppress the Lutheran movement
b: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truthbroadly : a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church

 

[theefaith]

"...go and make disciplesd of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, 20and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded you." Matthew 28:19-20​

AND teaching them to obey!

Obey what? What is commanded???

 

[Ferris Bueller]

AND teaching them to obey!

Obey what? What is commanded???

Oh, good grief, thee, lol.
You're trying to figure out to worm your Catholic dogma into all this.
I'm so sick of the Catholic church!
It's a godless, Spirit-less cult of empty ceremonies and outward worship. Yuck!
I thank God that he led me to a real relationship with him.

"17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18For whoever serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men." Romans 14:17-18​

 

[Taken]

Now we're both confused, lol.
I don't know what you're driving at.

Messing with you, noticing someone talking FOR you what you did not say for yourself, or agree with.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Spoken like a true moral relativist . . .

There is no "Your truth" v.s "My truth".
There is only Truth (John 14:6).

yep there is only truth

we agree on something.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Another falsehood - what a surprise . . .

NOT everyone who disagrees with the Catholic Church is a "Protestant".
A Protestant by definition are non-Catholic, non-Orthodox Christians. There are atheists and people of other religious affiliations that don't agree with thew Church who are not Protestants.
There are also many quasi-Christian sects that are not Protestant because they are not even Christian.

Must I keep having to post this??
prot·es·tant | \ ˈprä-tə-stənt , sense 2 is also prə-ˈte- \
Definition of protestant
(Entry 1 of 2)
1Protestant
a: any of a group of German princes and cities presenting a defense of freedom of conscience against an edict of the Diet of Speyer in 1529 intended to suppress the Lutheran movement
b: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truthbroadly : a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church

YAWN

 

[theefaith]

yep there is only truth

we agree on something.

Christ is the truth and he founded the church to teach the truth matt 28:19-20

 

[Taken]

Hey - it's not "MY" Catholic Church - it's Christ's.
YOU do what you want.

As usuyal - you vomit out nonsense about "claims" I never made.

Saul persecuted the Church, as I already proved to you with Scripture.
There is ZERO evidence that he persecuted "unconverted believers".

Yes Saul persecuted men and woman, “unconverted” believers, before Saul became Converted.

Acts 22:
[4] And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.

[19] And I said, Lord, they know that I imprisoned and beat in every synagogue them that believed on thee:

 

[theefaith]

Saul was persecuting Christ and his holy church! Christ and his church are one acts 9:4 eph 5:32

 

[Taken]

What's even "funnier" is the YOUR pathetic need to inhect yoiurself into every conversation that doesn't concern you.

Maybe you should just try to defend the nonsense YOU are spewing and let others defend theirs.
You'll probably get into less trouble that way . . .. .

What is a Glaring Feature of your character;
is everyone who disagrees with you, you respond with a opening statement of a long list (of irrelevant) but intended negative accusations....
FYI, I am not subject to your insecurities.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Messing with you, noticing someone talking FOR you what you did not say for yourself, or agree with.

Oh, I see, lol.

 

[Taken]

'certain men came from Rome saying, they must perform rites, pray to the goddess, and give obeisance to us in order to be saved...'​

were they correct?

were the believing pharisees in Acts 15 correct?
were the men from James in Galatians 2 correct?
was Peter correct in Galatians 2?

Yes, yes, yes....

Catholics preach, the focus of building the Catholic Church, UPON Peter.

Jesus questioned the men about WHO people were saying JESUS IS...
Finally God gave “Simon Barjona” (ie Simon, son of Jona), the ANSWER.
Once God gave Simon Barjona the ANSWER, Simon Barjona spoke the ANSWER out loud, all the disciples heard and agreed...then Jesus called him Simon Peter and ...
Jesus said, UPON THIS ROCK He would build His Church.

THIS ROCK, is the Answer Jesus was SEEKING...
THIS ROCK, is the MAINSTAY PRINCIPLE, (standard, mission statement of belief, whatever one wants to call it)...of every Church, standing WITH Jesus the Christ, that is “supposed” to PREACH.......”Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God”....

Jesus is the ROCK, the Christ, the Focus OF the Living God, the Head, the Foundation, the Chief cornerstone (first laid down)....
And....after Jesus laid down His bodily life, thereafter the Apostles laid down their bodily lives, together with about 110 disciples....as little stones on atop the other, and every person who willingly lays down his bodily life for Christ Jesus, they are added as little stones atop the other.

1 Cor 10:
[4] And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.


Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Another falsehood - what a surprise . . .

NOT everyone who disagrees with the Catholic Church is a "Protestant".
A Protestant by definition are non-Catholic, non-Orthodox Christians. There are atheists and people of other religious affiliations that don't agree with thew Church who are not Protestants.
There are also many quasi-Christian sects that are not Protestant because they are not even Christian.

Must I keep having to post this??
prot·es·tant | \ ˈprä-tə-stənt , sense 2 is also prə-ˈte- \
Definition of protestant
(Entry 1 of 2)
1Protestant
a: any of a group of German princes and cities presenting a defense of freedom of conscience against an edict of the Diet of Speyer in 1529 intended to suppress the Lutheran movement
b: a member of any of several church denominations denying the universal authority of the Pope and affirming the Reformation principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible as the only source of revealed truthbroadly : a Christian not of a Catholic or Eastern church

If a person calls himself a Protestant, then it is appropriate for another to use the same term about him.
You deciding what individuals are or are not, is irrelevant.