Christians are not under the New Covenant
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Christ must give revelation Jude 1:3
And it must be taught by holy mother church
Matt 28:19
No @theefaith - Informed by the scriptures:
]Mar 1:8...I have baptized you with water; but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit."
Act 1:5...for John baptized with water, but before many days you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit."
Act 11:16...And I remembered the word of the Lord, how he said, 'John baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit.'
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The Bible indicates that there will be a great apostasy during the end times. The “great apostasy” is mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. Scripture refers to it as the “falling away,” or “the rebellion.” And that’s what an apostasy is: a rebellion, an abandonment of the truth. The RCC has put many of their "traditions" over, above, and outside what scripture teaches.
Biblically speaking, the true “mother church” is the church that is described in the book of Acts and the New Testament epistles. In the biblical mother church, you will find no mention of priests, cardinals, or popes; scripture refers to them as elders and deacons but nowhere will you find Mary being adored or saints being venerated. In the biblical descriptions of the true mother church, there are no infants being baptized or elements of the Lord’s Supper being transformed into the body and blood of Jesus. So, no, the Roman Catholic Church is not the "HOLY mother church."
refers to the sacrament of baptism Matt 28:19-20 in the name of the father the son and the holy spirit
3 Beloved, while I was giving all diligence to write unto you of our common salvation, I was constrained to write unto you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered unto the saints.
Yes delivered unto the saints - including me - by the Holy Spirit.
Matthew 28:19
"Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,"
Where in that passage does it make any mention of 'holy mother church'?
No my son it does not. Only in the twisted teaching you have received. You need to get out while you are still young and turn to Christ for mercy and grace and be born again.
pope simply means father
Isa 22:21-22 Matt 16:18
cardinal refers to an office holder
bishop: acts 1:20 1 Tim 3:1
Priest: heb 7:17 Christ is high priest, so there must be low priests
also 1 Tim 4:14
then there is the royal priesthood
you forgot to mention an altar, a sacrifice, a gold censor with incense etc. holy water
And candles. We have none of those in the fellowship I belong to. And if you didn't already know you wouldn't be able to tell just from looking who was the pastor.
we do not adore Mary or anyone but God alone!
worship requires intent
Adoration
Reparation
Offering sacrifice etc.
1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
your 16th century revolt and the fundamentalists that followed
Infant Baptism
Acts 16:15 entire household baptized.
(It does not say except infants)
“Promise of the Father”
acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Promise is an oath and an oath is a sacrament! This promise of the sacrament of baptism refers to ez. 36:25-27
Promise is to you’re children! Vs 39
that verse refers to it being taught
holy mother church is gal 4:26
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
That whole passage is referring to Hagar and Sarah not 'mother church'. Get real @theefaith Use your God-given intellect and see the lies you have been and are being taught. Or maybe you are the one doing the teaching. You have bad shepherds. John chapter 10.
that’s why is important to have special garb for those in authority
and liturgy requires special garb
the mosaic covenant priesthood had special garb
Christ as high priest wore special required garb
Seamless garment Jn 19:23 Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout.
24 They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did.
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