Is The Ukranian Military Blocking & Killing Civilians, Who Are Trying To Leave The Warzones?

[Truth7t7]

In the attached clip, testimony of civilians state the Ukranian Military isn't allowing them to leave the warzone, shooting and killing civilians in buses?

The Clip, Civilian Testimony

 

[Scott Downey]

I can easily imagine, civilians fleeing Mariupol or elsewhere where the fighting is fierce, especially alone or in small groups and where they are officially not allowed to go, could be shot by Ukrainian forces as they might be considered traitors, or enemies because they are leaving. And the shooters are also hyped up, bloodthirsty, seeking revenge and angry about the war, and likely know nothing will happen to them. And could be shot from pretty far away too. Humanitarian exit corridors have to be officially approved and the soldiers involved need to know about that, or else bad stuff may happen.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I can easily imagine, civilians fleeing Mariupol or elsewhere where the fighting is fierce, especially alone or in small groups and where they are officially not allowed to go, could be shot by Ukrainian forces as they might be considered traitors, or enemies because they are leaving. And the shooters are also hyped up, bloodthirsty, seeking revenge and angry about the war, and likely know nothing will happen to them. And could be shot from pretty far away too. Humanitarian exit corridors have to be officially approved and the soldiers involved need to know about that, or else bad stuff may happen.

In the fog of war troops can do many evil or stupid things. I do know that Ukraine has tried unsuccessfully to get humanitarian aid sent into Mariupol. Putin has refused. It wasn't until today they established a humanitarian corridor (Putin allowed what Ukraine has been asking for), to allow 50+ Red Cross bussed into Mariupol to take people out! Remember Mariupol is surrounded by Russian forces fighting Ukrainian forces inside. The city is surrounded by Russians and is just days away of falling into Russian hands!

It is highly possible that in a sector manned by Azov brigade folks, this crime was done and there is no excuse. But it still pales in comparison to the mass amount of video footage showing Russian war crimes and testimony of fleeing people and refuges of the savagery of many russian soldiers.

Russia has not changed military tactics since Afghanistan, Syria, Chechnya, Georgia, Crimea and teh Donbas!

This invasion is following standard Russian military doctrine to a T. If you cannot capture quickly level a town or city!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Pictures and videos of Russian atrocities:

Videos Showing Russian Atrocities in Ukraine Flood Social Media (businessinsider.com)

Photographing Russia's war atrocities in Ukra... -CBS News

Discover russian atrocities in ukraine 's popular videos | TikTok

War produces atrocities on both sides. But teh Marxist nations have made it a science!

 

[Mantis]

I have seen a lot of stories about Russians killing civilians that were trying to escape. They also bombed a children's hospital. I don't even understand what this war is about. This is all just so senseless. We can't believe anything we read anymore. So much propaganda and lies. Vlad seems like Hitler 2.0.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I have seen a lot of stories about Russians killing civilians that were trying to escape. They also bombed a children's hospital. I don't even understand what this war is about. This is all just so senseless. We can't believe anything we read anymore. So much propaganda and lies. Vlad seems like Hitler 2.0.

Well Hitler was a national socialist butcher, Putin is a Marxist Socialist Butcher. both are socialists, one was local Putin is global.

 

[Scott Downey]

I have seen a lot of stories about Russians killing civilians that were trying to escape. They also bombed a children's hospital. I don't even understand what this war is about. This is all just so senseless. We can't believe anything we read anymore. So much propaganda and lies. Vlad seems like Hitler 2.0.

Could be either side, that is true.
The war is about preventing NATO expansion, which is Russia's enemy.
So Russian security issue, and the west really does want regime change in Russia, they also want Russia weakened and subservient to their New World Order, also same thing with China. In fact Soros recently said both Russia (Putin)and China leadership (Xi Jinping) need to be killed for the sake of their 'Open Society' world government of no borders.
I really do think Russia and China is a thorn in the side of the west and are holding back some of this NWO world government plans of theirs.

It is also about the constant provoking of Russia by Europe and the US.
The message coming out has been very negative against Russia for years now.
Russia, Russia, Russia, this that and the other, we heard a lot coming from the democrats for years, all very critical and negative about Russia.
As in hatred, enmity, and no respect. President Trump gets the same treatment too.

This is very much geopolitics playing out here, this is not just a war between Ukraine and Russia, but one of ideology and who is going to lead the NWO.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Could be either side, that is true.
The war is about preventing NATO expansion, which is Russia's enemy.
So Russian security issue, and the west really does want regime change in Russia, they also want Russia weakened and subservient to their New World Order, also same thing with China. In fact Soros recently said both Russia (Putin)and China leadership (Xi Jinping) need to be killed for the sake of their 'Open Society' world government of no borders.
I really do think Russia and China is a thorn in the side of the west and are holding back some of this NWO world government plans of theirs.

It is also about the constant provoking of Russia by Europe and the US.
The message coming out has been very negative against Russia for years now.
Russia, Russia, Russia, this that and the other, we heard a lot coming from the democrats for years, all very critical and negative about Russia.
As in hatred, enmity, and no respect. President Trump gets the same treatment too.

This is very much geopolitics playing out here, this is not just a war between Ukraine and Russia, but one of ideology and who is going to lead the NWO.

But let us look at reality. As corrupt and debauched as the West has become, NATO has never invaded nations and subjugated people like Russia has done since WW 2.

NATO was formed to counter the advancing marxist threat in Europe, not attack it. In 1991 Russia after it fell and NATO made an agreement that NATO would not expand eastward. Nato broke that informal agreement, but what has not been mentioned is why did they? These nations that were formally under the old soviet -marxist domination were begging to join. they saw Putin a former KGB thug as a real threat, especially after He went public saying the break up of the old Soviet Empire was the greatest shame to Russia and he sought to rectify that!

Personally I felt teh Yalta agreement which divided Europe was a grave monstrosity! And that 1991 agreement was nothing more than a veiled redo of the Yalta agreement.

Yes NATO is Putins enemy, but NATO never invaded nor subjugated European nations, nor forced by threat of arms any nhation to join the coalition. Th enations have evil to them, but itis Putins own paranoia and expansionist dreams that make him hate NATO.

 

[Scott Downey]

But let us look at reality. As corrupt and debauched as the West has become, NATO has never invaded nations and subjugated people like Russia has done since WW 2.

NATO was formed to counter the advancing marxist threat in Europe, not attack it. In 1991 Russia after it fell and NATO made an agreement that NATO would not expand eastward. Nato broke that informal agreement, but what has not been mentioned is why did they? These nations that were formally under the old soviet -marxist domination were begging to join. they saw Putin a former KGB thug as a real threat, especially after He went public saying the break up of the old Soviet Empire was the greatest shame to Russia and he sought to rectify that!

Personally I felt teh Yalta agreement which divided Europe was a grave monstrosity! And that 1991 agreement was nothing more than a veiled redo of the Yalta agreement.

Yes NATO is Putins enemy, but NATO never invaded nor subjugated European nations, nor forced by threat of arms any nhation to join the coalition. Th enations have evil to them, but itis Putins own paranoia and expansionist dreams that make him hate NATO.

Yes Nato nations have, specifically the USA, invaded and put in regime changes.
Causing terrible hardships and sufferings. Such as Iraq just for one major example.
You may say Iraq leadership was very bad, and they were.
But likely you think the US was justified in what it did, maybe so.
Do you know when Iraqis were surrendering in the thousands, the US military blew them to hell anyway.
I know a Colonel who told me we devastated them with death and it got too extreme and so the military brass called a stop to the first Iraq war. I had been asking why we did not finish Hussein that time. He said it was like shooting Iraqis in a barrel. Too many of them were being killed.
He said the US was inflicting extreme killings of Iraqis.
Likely though you wont agree as your memory is selective.

And we are not at war with Russia.
But seems you wish it so.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yes Nato nations have, specifically the USA, invaded and put in regime changes.
Causing terrible hardships and sufferings. Such as Iraq just for one major example.
You may say Iraq leadership was very bad, and they were.
But likely you think the US was justified in what it did, maybe so.
Do you know when Iraqis were surrendering in the thousands, the US military blew them to hell anyway.
I know a Colonel who told me we devastated them with death and it got too extreme and so the military brass called a stop to the first Iraq war. I had been asking why we did not finish Hussein that time. He said it was like shooting Iraqis in a barrel. Too many of them were being killed.
He said the US was inflicting extreme killings of Iraqis.
Likely though you wont agree as your memory is selective.

And we are not at war with Russia.
But seems you wish it so.

Yes America is the second leg of that terrible statue of Nebuchadnezzar, Like Russia is the other leg of imperialistic power.

No I do no t think America was justified in the invasion of Iraq. That was George the Son finishing what the UN forbid Goerege the daddy from doing!

In every war, every army commits atrocities. That is an ugly reality of war and should be punished every time it happens.

Likely I do agree- you still suck at pretending to know what I believe. You created a straw man of me and think that is who I am!

No we are not in a fighting war with Russia, but make no mistake, Ukraine is a proxy war like Vietnam and Korea both were as well as many other places where we did not send troops but poured equipment to fight Russia or china.

 

[JohnPaul]

Yes Nato nations have, specifically the USA, invaded and put in regime changes.
Causing terrible hardships and sufferings. Such as Iraq just for one major example.
You may say Iraq leadership was very bad, and they were.
But likely you think the US was justified in what it did, maybe so.
Do you know when Iraqis were surrendering in the thousands, the US military blew them to hell anyway.
I know a Colonel who told me we devastated them with death and it got too extreme and so the military brass called a stop to the first Iraq war. I had been asking why we did not finish Hussein that time. He said it was like shooting Iraqis in a barrel. Too many of them were being killed.
He said the US was inflicting extreme killings of Iraqis.
Likely though you wont agree as your memory is selective.

And we are not at war with Russia.
But seems you wish it so.

Yes and destabilized the region going after supposed Weapons of mass destruction, as bad as Saddam was he kept the extremists out of Iraq and women were allowed to have jobs and education, when they got rid of him, all of that went down the drain and that region became the big mess it because of, it's how Al Qaeda and Isis prospered.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yes and destabilized the region going after supposed Weapons of mass destruction, as bad as Saddam was he kept the extremists out of Iraq and women were allowed to have jobs and education, when they got rid of him, all of that went down the drain and that region became the big mess it because of, it's how Al Qaeda and Isis prospered.

Well the more we move to the end, the less America will behave as the christianized nation it once was. I am convinced that only REagan was the last real leader in America. Even Trump is part of teh Davos Crowd (world economic forum). Being that- I would still prefer Amrican conquest over Russian or china qconquest- for all its evils, it still allows the greatest personal and religious freedoms for now.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Russia just killed 50 civilians and wounded almost 100 by firing a smart missile on a civilian train station loaded with people trying to flee in Kramatorsk.

And the war crimes keep adding up! Along with the massacre at Bucha- Russia is showing itself as it always has been. Victory by destruction of civilians and infrastructure. The number of civilain deaths at teh hands of the Russians is closing in on the number of military killed in this unprovoked invasion.

 

[JohnPaul]

Well the more we move to the end, the less America will behave as the christianized nation it once was. I am convinced that only REagan was the last real leader in America. Even Trump is part of teh Davos Crowd (world economic forum). Being that- I would still prefer Amrican conquest over Russian or china qconquest- for all its evils, it still allows the greatest personal and religious freedoms for now.

I was exempt from my companies forced Covid vaccines because of my religious beliefs, so yes America still has religious freedom.