Russian army takes and controls Mariupol today
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I have read this will free up the Russian forces to move north.
And they have a port city, and a complete corridor along the sea back to Russia for supplies.
And they have a port city, and a complete corridor along the sea back to Russia for supplies.
Inexperienced young foreign volunteers fighting for Ukraine are canon fodder, actually getting in the way and getting killed.
It is true you can not just go get anyone to come help to serve in a war, such is stupid ! one has to do 7 years in defence to be able or worthy to get into such and not be a burden, let alone end up killing your own people.
I remember people who were in the ADF who I said yes let him come with us shooting in the bush and I was saying, don't ever let them come back out with us again, hey, seriously ! The last one was in the ADF for 3 years
and knew nothing. In a war ? hell I was nearly shot in just going out shooting Roo's.War is no place for playing Silly buggers at all.
But the majority must think that the people in the ADF are just all yobbos like themselves, we see the MSM go all out attack our lads in the ADF and treating them all, as if they are all just yobbos, that were out on a drunken spree.
We have people who served like Ben Roberts-Smith who are hounded by morons and many people who are out for his blood ! but when I question such people I know that they themselves could not make it into the SAS for a start because they do not have the discipline to start with at all. not to mention no regard to who they our ADF people were dealing with at all, Totally oblivious !
The Australian public at totally delusional, due to the MSM spin. One would think that Australia is the world number 2 super power, but the truth is that even Indonesia ranks way above us, not to mention we give Indonesia enough money every year to support their whole Defence Force. and Indonesia has threatened Australia at times, they did not like our F111's they were seen as the threat to them etc etc.
Ziggy
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It's Universal.
CommonSense has left the panet and MSM controls the narrative.
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Some more info on this
Ukraine Sitrep Day 33 - Mariupol (Donbass) Largely Taken Over - Europe Reloaded
I have also read some UAF soldiers in the city still refuse to surrender
Ukraine Sitrep Day 33 - Mariupol (Donbass) Largely Taken Over - Europe Reloaded
I have also read some UAF soldiers in the city still refuse to surrender
The Nazis are running the show !
Well it's the same people who controlled the Nazis, who worked so as to lead them astray in the first place, so clearly the MSM are just like that of Nazi Germany was in fact, telling everyone what whoever controls the Government wanted from them ? Just like it did in Nazi German in fact.
In Germany the Zionist so called Jew created by Rothschild and Banking Co, got their stooge Hitler to ban the Jewish Media, bar for the Zionist so called Jewish Media that did all that Hitler wanted of them ! that game plain was to corrupt the German Jews who the majority of despised the Zionist in fact ! but the propaganda that Hitler was playing on the stupid German's worked just as he did boast about in fact, would only take X amount of years for him to do.
But as to the German Jews it did not work, as the majority of German Jews were not as stupid as the Germans on the issues, so the Zionist ordered the killing of the majority of the German Jews.
Now as to an fine tuned killing machine like the Rothschild's and Co, who created the so called Zionist, is just like a assassin, such a one is not an amateur, he is like a professional in his trade that covers his tracks very well indeed and they work in a secret society that helps such people.
The Major Party's have never had much regard for the people at all, they only work on playing games with you all. you are all like their art work in progress, only the art work is under delusions for they have been cunningly deceived ! Trapped in a Sewer !
That's why they did not want Jesus Christ, for such who come to Christ Jesus are the threat to them, that they be exposed ! they do not love anyone not even themselves !
Ziggy
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Zee 4th Revolution...
Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
Dan 7:20 And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
Dan 7:21 I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Dan 7:26 But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
Dan 7:27 And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
The video is of course horrendous about what is coming onto the world.
Ronald Nolette
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Well they will have a prt, but they have destroyed the city by their aerial and cannon and missile bombardments.
After Putin consolidates these gains, Odesa is next then Kyiv and the rest of Ukraine. The Baltic states after! As He wrote and publicly has stated, He is going to reconstitute the Old Soviet Empire if he can. No matter how many inocent civilians have to die.
Ziggy
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Yes, that is just a propaganda talking point. Putin knows Nato better than that.
Putin can not put together the old Soviet border states, unless the people in those countries vote to rejoin the Russian Federation of States, and the leaders and their media propaganda machines and the embedded thought cults of wokeism, climate change etc... they hammer into the people and kids at schools with daily messaging.
So it feels to me very unlikely the people could change their minds. Mind control is real, what people think is true is what they are taught to know as the truth.
And the world is under the sway of the devil. The devil is a very good subtle talker and convincer. Once he's got you, you have been captured by him to do his will.
Example
2 Timothy 2:25-26
New King James Version
25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
And Paul is writing about those who oppose bible teaching here. Which could include church people who are in opposition to the scriptures.
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See the great house is of course God's house, or His field the world, can be thought as the local church in which are saved and unsaved people.
The reference is to teaching these people, and some of them are in opposition, it says they need repentance.
You can't teach the unbelieving world to know the LORD, as in the new covenant God says everyone knows HIM refer to Hebrews 8, so the teaching is not for unbelievers but believers here. Teaching unbelievers does not benefit them as they have no faith.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
The reference is to teaching these people, and some of them are in opposition, it says they need repentance.
You can't teach the unbelieving world to know the LORD, as in the new covenant God says everyone knows HIM refer to Hebrews 8, so the teaching is not for unbelievers but believers here. Teaching unbelievers does not benefit them as they have no faith.
20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay, some for honor and some for dishonor. 21 Therefore if anyone cleanses himself from the latter, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified and useful for the Master, prepared for every good work. 22 Flee also youthful lusts; but pursue righteousness, faith, love, peace with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife. 24 And a servant of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, 25 in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, 26 and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.
Ziggy
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Ronald Nolette
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Putin’s article as a manifesto against Ukraine’s sovereignty - Institute of Modern Russia (imrussia.org)
Leaked Transcript of Putin's recent speech to Russia's legislature (Duma) : parody (reddit.com)
Putin’s speech harked back to Russia’s empire – the threat doesn’t stop at Ukraine | Keir Giles | The Guardian
Althouse: "The end of the Soviet Union disoriented Russia’s elites, stripping away their special status in a huge Communist empire.... One of the most alluring concepts was Eurasianism."
Vladimir Putin: The rebuilding of ‘Soviet’ Russia - BBC News
Putin is Determined to Rebuild Russian Empire | CEPA
Putin, before vote, says he'd reverse Soviet collapse if he could: agencies | Reuters
Putin: Soviet collapse a 'genuine tragedy' (nbcnews.com)
Putin Wants to Rebuild Soviet Union, Former Head of British Army Warns (newsweek.com)
Vladimir Putin Wants To Restore the Soviet Union, Former Secretary of Defense Says | World Report | US News
when I have more time I will look for more direct speech and not just commentaries. It coming out of Russia makes it hard to get large direct quotes of his speeches.
Ziggy
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I don't believe Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet Empire or USSR.
I believe he simply wants the people to decide how they want to live, but the globalists won't let them.
I hear Putin speak of the countries being independent and sovereign. That's not a call to unification. IMO.
But the closer NATO gets to Russia's border, breaking all the treaties agreed to, then what can Russia do, but respond in defense?
It's a mess, I'll say that.
We have our own satanic coup taking over the states.
How can we solve anyones problems if we can't solve our own?
Hint: they're not meant to be solved.
Hugs
I believe he simply wants the people to decide how they want to live, but the globalists won't let them.
I hear Putin speak of the countries being independent and sovereign. That's not a call to unification. IMO.
But the closer NATO gets to Russia's border, breaking all the treaties agreed to, then what can Russia do, but respond in defense?
It's a mess, I'll say that.
We have our own satanic coup taking over the states.
How can we solve anyones problems if we can't solve our own?
Hint: they're not meant to be solved.
Hugs
Ziggy
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I know.
I'm also looking for direct quotes and not peoples opinions.
I have heard Putin speak himself that he onlyy wants Ukraine to remain neutral and not have NATO on his doorstep. An agreement made back in 1991. But NATO... I think they're getting pushy, and Putin isn't afraid to push back.
But I'll keep looking.
And if I'm wrong, I'll say I'm wrong.
All we have is what they say. We can't read hearts. Only God can.
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Ronald Nolette
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and you believe that to be me I suppose? Just because I disproved all your conspiracy theories about the vaccines? WOW!
And listening to you if people don't agree with you - they have their minds controlled by wokeism or some other pice of worldy trash. sorry that is not how it works.
I don't remember God booming out from heaven announcing he left you in charge of deciding how people think (like you do with me) or that when you make statements they are ex- cathedra infallible pontifications like you were Pope Downey I.
And jsut for teh record, He didnot bother to have the people vote in Gergia, Crimea, the Donbas or the parts of Ukraine he has bombed and desires to claim.
Bt my post to Ziggy quoting Putin , shows you are sadly misinformed and listening to too many conspiracy theories. But as you question my spirituality and possibly even my salvation as others have- you can take it with as many grains of salt as you feel the need.
I know the Savior whom I serve and the nail prints on His blessed hands.
Ronald Nolette
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But Remember Putin is old KGB and hasn't changed. He still jails dissidents, protesters and has had many opponents poisoned or irradiated- the old fashioned KGB way.
Teh fact that he declared the collapse of the Soviet Union the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century and wants to restore Russian greastness like it was before 1917 says it all. Remember also like all politicians He masks things in neutral sounding phrases, and still follows the Soviet doctrine of:
Maskirovka Which is to make things appear one way when they are doing something totally different, just to fool ones enemies. That is still Russian Doctrine.
Ziggy
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I can see al of that in our own government too though.
We have a lot of ex-CIA guys working in the WH. Not to mention Hillary's pile of body bags when people got in her way, or weren't needed anymore.
We have protesters still locked up in DC that have had no due process. They are being treated horribly and no one talks about it.
Not to mention Gitmo and Gina Haspel who used dogs and waterboarding to get information from the prisoners.
We aren't saints thats for sure.
MAGA.. Make America Great Again. Everyone I think wants their former glory. Specially when things are going down the tubes.
Russia was literaly breaking apart. And Nato was scooping up the pieces. A lot of instability worldwide.
And today we have double-speak and propaganda and everyone is twisting everything inside out.
I just think, we can't point a finger at Putin without looking at our own political blunders and atrocities.
Politics is a rough game. One that I'm glad that I only observe and am not a partaker of.
Remember Seth Rich who was ambushed because he gave Assange a hard drive proving that the 2016 election was rigged, and that Sanders was paid to step down, Ambassador Stevens in Lybia who had intel that weapons were being smuggled and traded by the Clintons, and poof he was beaten and killed by the "terrorists" . And Hillary Secretary of State never sent them back up even after they pleaded for it.
Yeah, we got bad guys too.
We have a whole DOJ and FBI who sabotaged Trumps campaign, and his presidency through Hillary and perkins coie.
And destroying emails. And the coup that we set up in Ukraine.
Not to mention January 6th. That was conived by the DNC and their goons to pin it on Republicans.
The real coup happened November 3rd when they literally stole the election. That's TREASON.
Let's not talk about Hunter's laptop yet. Forget making deals and giving the Big Guy 50% of the kickback.
We got pictures... BAD pictures. Young girls pictures....
We have Satanists in the WH. Pelosi calling the Capitol a "temple" . Bowing a knee to known felon and addict who once held a knife to his pregnant wifes belly. Ignoring the destruction of cities being looted and burned and killing police and citizens and calling them peaceful protests.
arggghh..
Putin may be a bad guy. But at least he stands against Satanists coming into his country.
You got to give him that.
Ours is over running.
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