Ukraine’s army has been defeated; all that is left is mop-up

[Reggie Belafonte]

One has to ask the question who wanted this War ?
Not to mention who still insist on wanting this war ?
Did Putin want this War ? did he bring it all on ?
It was Jo Biden who wanted this war and kicked it all off and is feeding the war on and on, not to mention that Biden is threating everyone in the world to do as he says or else ? so he even says to China threats ? so if lets say Australia was to said, No to Biden. Then we would be threatened in fact ! or any other Nation said No ? Biden dominates over all regardless ! Even if our economy's fail due to Biden and his madness.

Biden is insane !
What about what Biden said of late when asked a question, he started on about a topic of total dribble fantasy land Himalayas nonsense.
If Trump was to say such like Biden says, they would be on a field day screaming to impeach on that alone, not to mention if Trump was promoting War like Biden, just think how the MSM would be attacking him for all the peoples suffering, you would not hear the end of it !
But Biden can do no wrong as to the MSM In fact, regardless, What if Trump did what Biden did with Afghanistan ? you would never hear the end of it ! it would be like a broken record going over and over. and it would be the same if Trump did what Biden is doing in Ukraine, Oh he kicked over the hornets nest and feeds the War and is egging it all on, even to the point that we may have to endure WW3 or Nuclear war as well !

Boy going into WW3 over Ukraine would be worth it lets bring that on and have all our homes etc destroyed like the Ukraine leader is fine with promoting, not to mention all the rest of what goes with it. talk about depraved ! But the Ukraine leader is a hero ! to the MSM ? The Leader of destruction ! Hero ! more like tosser. how would you like to have your own home blown up and all, that's insanity !

I do not approve of the War at all ! and I know many Australians who are with me on this issue, but from the MSM one would think that we all support the War. but I am surprised at how many here who are not approving of feeding the War to go on.

In fact a lot of lefty's Aussies hate the USA and it is this War that is the death nail, to them in exposing the USA as a outright War Criminal that goes about starting wars off and prolonging them. Funny that my Communist mate is 100% behind the MSM on Ukraine, he believes every word that the MSM say.

 

[Truth7t7]

Russia is never willingly going to give Crimea back to anyone. It is an important strategic position in the Black sea for unhindered access to the Mediterranean Sea, and Atlantic waters. Russia is in need of sea ports that dont freeze over in the winter, and it denies the area to NATO, which surely would have access through Ukraine. Russia has a similar issue in the far east with the Kuril islands in confrontation with the US bases and Japan.

Kuril Islands dispute - Wikipedia

Kuril Islands Russian owned since 1945, when 50,000 Japanese troops surrendered, annexed to Russia

Scary thing is, China is making islands and military installations in the South China Sea, pushing at Japan, Phillipines,Etc

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Russia is never willingly going to give Crimea back to anyone. It is an important strategic position in the Black sea for unhindered access to the Mediterranean Sea, and Atlantic waters. Russia is in need of sea ports that dont freeze over in the winter, and it denies the area to NATO, which surely would have access through Ukraine. Russia has a similar issue in the far east with the Kuril islands in confrontation with the US bases and Japan.

Kuril Islands dispute - Wikipedia

That's correct, it's all about the military Base, if the USA try's any tricks to take that Base, we are looking at WW3 in fact, make no mistake about that ! That is Russia's Key Base and if it was to loose that Base then Russia is finished Military wise. Most people do not know that, because the MSM keeps you in the dark.

 

[Truth7t7]

One has to ask the question who wanted this War ?
Not to mention who still insist on wanting this war ?
Did Putin want this War ? did he bring it all on ?
It was Jo Biden who wanted this war and kicked it all off and is feeding the war on and on, not to mention that Biden is threating everyone in the world to do as he says or else ? so he even says to China threats ? so if lets say Australia was to said, No to Biden. Then we would be threatened in fact ! or any other Nation said No ? Biden dominates over all regardless ! Even if our economy's fail due to Biden and his madness.

Biden is insane !
What about what Biden said of late when asked a question, he started on about a topic of total dribble fantasy land Himalayas nonsense.
If Trump was to say such like Biden says, they would be on a field day screaming to impeach on that alone, not to mention if Trump was promoting War like Biden, just think how the MSM would be attacking him for all the peoples suffering, you would not hear the end of it !
But Biden can do no wrong as to the MSM In fact, regardless, What if Trump did what Biden did with Afghanistan ? you would never hear the end of it ! it would be like a broken record going over and over. and it would be the same if Trump did what Biden is doing in Ukraine, Oh he kicked over the hornets nest and feeds the War and is egging it all on, even to the point that we may have to endure WW3 or Nuclear war as well !

Boy going into WW3 over Ukraine would be worth it lets bring that on and have all our homes etc destroyed like the Ukraine leader is fine with promoting, not to mention all the rest of what goes with it. talk about depraved ! But the Ukraine leader is a hero ! to the MSM ? The Leader of destruction ! Hero ! more like tosser. how would you like to have your own home blown up and all, that's insanity !

I do not approve of the War at all ! and I know many Australians who are with me on this issue, but from the MSM one would think that we all support the War. but I am surprised at how many here who are not approving of feeding the War to go on.

In fact a lot of lefty's Aussies hate the USA and it is this War that is the death nail, to them in exposing the USA as a outright War Criminal that goes about starting wars off and prolonging them. Funny that my Communist mate is 100% behind the MSM on Ukraine, he believes every word that the MSM say.

Putin didnt want the war, he's been shouting his concerns for a decade into western defense ears

Zelenskyy is a puppet of the west and wealthy elite $$$

Europe in reality dosent want the war either, Putin is supplying energy at 1/2 the cost of outside energy, a major factor in the current situation

Libya's Kadafi went against world oil production quotas, and the US Obama overthrew his government,with hundreds if tomahawk missiles,turning it over to the Muslim Brotherhood

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Russia is never willingly going to give Crimea back to anyone. It is an important strategic position in the Black sea for unhindered access to the Mediterranean Sea, and Atlantic waters. Russia is in need of sea ports that dont freeze over in the winter, and it denies the area to NATO, which surely would have access through Ukraine. Russia has a similar issue in the far east with the Kuril islands in confrontation with the US bases and Japan.

Kuril Islands dispute - Wikipedia

Well then it will be taken back by Ukraine by force! Remember it was Russia that went in , invaded and stole the Crimea from Ukraine. they already have acces to teh black sea. any map reveals that. NO it is more Putin thinking Ukraine is not a real nation.

As for teh Kurils, instead of going to war to take them by force- Russia simply like most other nations, sign of treaty for free passage way between the islands.

 

[Truth7t7]

Well then it will be taken back by Ukraine by force! Remember it was Russia that went in , invaded and stole the Crimea from Ukraine. they already have acces to teh black sea. any map reveals that. NO it is more Putin thinking Ukraine is not a real nation.

As for teh Kurils, instead of going to war to take them by force- Russia simply like most other nations, sign of treaty for free passage way between the islands.

80%+ Of Crimeans Supported Leaving Ukraine, Don't Be Deceived By The Western Media

Forbes
One Year After Russia Annexed Crimea, Locals Prefer Moscow To Kiev
Mar 20, 2015

The U.S and European Union may want to save Crimeans from themselves. But the Crimeans are happy right where they are.

One year after the annexation of the Ukrainian peninsula in the Black Sea, poll after poll shows that the locals there — be they Ukrainians, ethnic Russians or Tatars are mostly all in agreement: life with Russia is better than life with Ukraine.

Little has changed over the last 12 months. Despite huge efforts on the part of Kiev, Brussels, Washington and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, the bulk of humanity living on the Black Sea peninsula believe the referendum to secede from Ukraine was legit. At some point, the West will have to recognize Crimea’s right to self rule. Unless we are all to believe that the locals polled by Gallup and GfK were done so with FSB bogey men standing by with guns in their hands.

In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.

In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn’t know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Ukrane will never agree to be split in half. And the globalists want to drag out the war to weaken Russia.

Russia would be foolish to waste their hard earned victory. I suspect Russia will puppet part of them if they win, like Vichy France. And Annex the rest.

I think you are half correct. I think the globalists want this to go on as long as possible, and because of it, the war may never end so long as Zelensky is still in power. I have no word on this - it's just conjecture at this point - but my guess is the war stretches out for months and then years, and eventually leaves most of the country in ruins.

As I've stated already, the real end goal here is to reduce much of the world to starvation and economic turmoil. It will lead to further destabilization in the world as the US pulls out more and more from supplying military and economic aide to weaker countries, and then the void will start to be filled more and more by Islamic extremism.

Regarding Ukraine, I'm hoping the following prophecies eventually prove to be true. If so, however, I don't think it will be for a few years yet. I think the slavic peoples are going through a great humbling, before the time of their spiritual revival truly begins in earnest.
Prophetic Hope For Ukraine And Russia

 

[Hidden In Him]

Russia has the sea and air, no military supplies in food, arms, or ammunition, are getting into the war zones, Zelenskyy and Kolomoysky are finished!

Still can't agree with you on this, Truth. Are they making gains in the East? Of course, but considering how their army is 15 times the size of Ukraine's, one would expect they might.

What you need to understand is that the Russians have been losing a massive amount of money in equipment and continue to, as the West keeps sending in cheaper, easier to make and operate systems that can take out heavy armor and even warships. And as the sanctions keep taking effect, replacing expensive losses like that becomes a problem. They are losing cruisers now.

In reality, a lot of weaknesses in the way the Russian military operates are now being exposed. They have always been way too top-down. It works against weaker opponents, but now they are essentially facing a US-trained, US-equipped military which operates with autonomy on the battlefield. And now that they can take out unit commanders and generals through the use of drone attacks, the whole Russian military system just gets effed up and goes totally to crap.

I'm telling you. This war is going to get increasingly costly for them, and there is no way they'll ever take the entire country. The day they got suckered into this war is the day they got more than they bargained for.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Still can't agree with you on this, Truth. Are they making gains in the East? Of course, but considering how their army is 15 times the size of Ukraine's, one would expect they might.

What you need to understand is that the Russians have been losing a massive amount of money in equipment and continue to, as the West keeps sending in cheaper, easier to make and operate systems that can take out heavy armor and even warships. And as the sanctions keep taking effect, replacing expensive losses like that becomes a problem. They are losing cruisers now.

In reality, a lot of weaknesses in the way the Russian military operates are now being exposed. They have always been way too top-down. It works against weaker opponents, but now they are essentially facing a US-trained, US-equipped military which operates with autonomy on the battlefield. And now that they can take out unit commanders and generals through the use of drone attacks, the whole Russian military system just gets effed up and goes totally to crap.

I'm telling you. This war is going to get increasingly costly for them, and there is no way they'll ever take the entire country. The day they got suckered into this war is the day they got more than they bargained for.

We had an idiot called W Churchill who wanted a War and said X amount of time 3 years and they will have Germany sown up ? what a Moron !
W Churchill said 3 years before the War that Germany will get war regardless if she wants it or not !
W Churchill put the English people into Hellfire and demanded that all to die to the last man, We shall never surrender ? what that truly means, is that you will not surrender ?
Now who is the We ? truly in fact. The We is Churchill's backers ? now who is his backers, one may ask ? and who is the UK people ? that maybe to different things ?

Now who truly runs the World one may ask ? us or them ? who creates all the Wars ? and why ! well one could work that out if one bothered. Just sitting back swallowing all the dribble is for idiots and fools. They are using and abusing people in fact, they do the same regardless, they are just like a Casino, they hold all the cards and all who play are fools.

The UK could of easy of been destroyed by Germany in WW2 in fact, but Hitler was not allowed to as Hitler's Boss did not want that, as his Boss was W Churchill's Boss as well ! It was a NWO that Rothschild's and Co were implementing and WC pointed it out once on TV he said it was all about winning Markets. they did not give a rats about the People at all in fact. They never do ! I seen such my whole working life such people have no regard to other people at all and the system is so evil and corrupt dominated by creeps morons and idiots a ship of fools with no Grace.

 

[Hidden In Him]

The UK could of easy of been destroyed by Germany in WW2 in fact, but Hitler was not allowed to as Hitler's Boss did not want that, as his Boss was W Churchill's Boss as well ! It was a NWO that Rothschild's and Co were implementing

Yeah, the story of who funded WWII is an interesting one.

To me, a big part of this picture is the coming decrease in world population. I think they fully accounted for the world starvation that is coming as a result of this war, and it fulfills one of the bigger NWO objectives.

 

[BarneyFife]

The day they got suckered into this war is the day they got more than they bargained for.

I was actually kind of shocked when they made their move. I thought it would go exactly as it has gone. I didn't quite realize what it would do to the global economy and the European infrastructure, although I'm not too surprised.

But Russia has been comparatively free for 30 years now. They don't have the collective stomach for war. None of the major players really do anymore. I don't mean that our boys weren't doing their best in Afg & Iraq. But the majority of the populations of developed nations are more interested in entertainment and gadgets than national security.

I feel sorry for the Russian people as well as the Ukrainians. War is just such a horrible thing. The devil loves it. It is extremely detrimental to spirituality. Even peacetime military service is. I usually stay out of these discussions, but it seems like there might be a bit of a lull, so maybe I won't get jumped and rolled.

 

[Enoch111]

“The war is really over for the Ukrainians.

Not really. If Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia are standing with Ukraine, the war is far from over. Listen to the Polish ambassador to the US:
'During an interview with CBS News’ “The Takeout” podcast on Wednesday released on Friday, Polish Ambassador to the United States Marek Magierowski said Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s image has undergone a dramatic transformation and he is “the leader of the free world” at the moment. Magierowski said, [relevant remarks begin around 36:50] “I think Zelensky is now a superhero for many of us. It’s incredible. Because he’s a lawyer by profession, then he became a comedian, an actor, then he became — pretty surprisingly — it was a surprise for Poland that he became president. But, from the very beginning of his presidency, the Polish President, Andrzej Duda, established a very close and a very friendly relationship with him. So, now we saw those pictures this morning…of President Duda accompanied by his three other friends from Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia, his three counterparts from the Baltic countries, paid a visit to Kyiv. They spoke with Mr. Zelensky, another sign and another symbol of solidarity. They just wanted to show how united we are, how coherent our message is to President Zelensky. So, his image, worldwide, has changed dramatically. He’s the leader of the free world right now, actually.”'
Polish Ambassador to U.S.: Zelensky Is ‘The Leader of the Free World Right Now’

 

[Truth7t7]

Still can't agree with you on this, Truth. Are they making gains in the East? Of course, but considering how their army is 15 times the size of Ukraine's, one would expect they might.

What you need to understand is that the Russians have been losing a massive amount of money in equipment and continue to, as the West keeps sending in cheaper, easier to make and operate systems that can take out heavy armor and even warships. And as the sanctions keep taking effect, replacing expensive losses like that becomes a problem. They are losing cruisers now.

In reality, a lot of weaknesses in the way the Russian military operates are now being exposed. They have always been way too top-down. It works against weaker opponents, but now they are essentially facing a US-trained, US-equipped military which operates with autonomy on the battlefield. And now that they can take out unit commanders and generals through the use of drone attacks, the whole Russian military system just gets effed up and goes totally to crap.

I'm telling you. This war is going to get increasingly costly for them, and there is no way they'll ever take the entire country. The day they got suckered into this war is the day they got more than they bargained for.

Fact is, the west is sending in armaments to Poland, but they aren't reaching the war zone, Putin has Ukraine on lockdown, borders, Air, and sea, don't believe the Western MSM propaganda

 

[Truth7t7]

Not really. If Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia are standing with Ukraine, the war is far from over. Listen to the Polish ambassador to the US:
'During an interview with CBS News’ “The Takeout” podcast on Wednesday released on Friday, Polish Ambassador to the United States Marek Magierowski said Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky’s image has undergone a dramatic transformation and he is “the leader of the free world” at the moment. Magierowski said, [relevant remarks begin around 36:50] “I think Zelensky is now a superhero for many of us. It’s incredible. Because he’s a lawyer by profession, then he became a comedian, an actor, then he became — pretty surprisingly — it was a surprise for Poland that he became president. But, from the very beginning of his presidency, the Polish President, Andrzej Duda, established a very close and a very friendly relationship with him. So, now we saw those pictures this morning…of President Duda accompanied by his three other friends from Lithuania, Estonia, and Latvia, his three counterparts from the Baltic countries, paid a visit to Kyiv. They spoke with Mr. Zelensky, another sign and another symbol of solidarity. They just wanted to show how united we are, how coherent our message is to President Zelensky. So, his image, worldwide, has changed dramatically. He’s the leader of the free world right now, actually.”'
Polish Ambassador to U.S.: Zelensky Is ‘The Leader of the Free World Right Now’

Ukraine is on lockdown, no food, armaments or supplies are reaching the warzones

1,062 Azov just surrendered in Mariupol, it's all Western MSM propaganda promoting Ukraine is winning the battle, Putins Russia has them surrounded, all supplies cut off, "Its Done"!

Surrender Zelenskyy!

 

[Truth7t7]

I was actually kind of shocked when they made their move. I thought it would go exactly as it has gone. I didn't quite realize what it would do to the global economy and the European infrastructure, although I'm not too surprised.

But Russia has been comparatively free for 30 years now. They don't have the collective stomach for war. None of the major players really do anymore. I don't mean that our boys weren't doing their best in Afg & Iraq. But the majority of the populations of developed nations are more interested in entertainment and gadgets than national security.

I feel sorry for the Russian people as well as the Ukrainians. War is just such a horrible thing. The devil loves it. It is extremely detrimental to spirituality. Even peacetime military service is. I usually stay out of these discussions, but it seems like there might be a bit of a lull, so maybe I won't get jumped and rolled.

I Agree Barney!

 

[Truth7t7]

Yeah, the story of who funded WWII is an interesting one.

To me, a big part of this picture is the coming decrease in world population. I think they fully accounted for the world starvation that is coming as a result of this war, and it fulfills one of the bigger NWO objectives.

Nobody is going to starve, the world has a 1,000% in excess of food, don't be fooled

They are dumping dairy products and grains to keep prices stable, starvation in the US and Europe is 100% propaganda

Africa has always been a starving area, for some reason the west could care less

 

[Truth7t7]

I think you are half correct. I think the globalists want this to go on as long as possible, and because of it, the war may never end so long as Zelensky is still in power. I have no word on this - it's just conjecture at this point - but my guess is the war stretches out for months and then years, and eventually leaves most of the country in ruins.

As I've stated already, the real end goal here is to reduce much of the world to starvation and economic turmoil. It will lead to further destabilization in the world as the US pulls out more and more from supplying military and economic aide to weaker countries, and then the void will start to be filled more and more by Islamic extremism.

Regarding Ukraine, I'm hoping the following prophecies eventually prove to be true. If so, however, I don't think it will be for a few years yet. I think the slavic peoples are going through a great humbling, before the time of their spiritual revival truly begins in earnest.
Prophetic Hope For Ukraine And Russia

6 weeks Ukraine will have a new government that is friendly to Russia, no world starvation as claimed, then the delivery of untold "War Crimes" presented, exposing the evils of Zelenskyy his military, and the western MSM propaganda

Zelenskyy's Azov has waived the white flag in Mariupol with 1,062 surrendering, it's going to be a brutal 3-4 weeks ahead, Putin will bring Ukraine to its knees in submission, Ukraine's white flag is just a few weeks away, stay tuned!

 

[Truth7t7]

The day they got suckered into this war is the day they got more than they bargained for.

Your Claim Is Typical Western MSM Propaganda

Putin Is Moving Slow To Save Civilian Lives, 12 Million Have Left The Country In The Past 6 Weeks,Ukraine has been killing civilians and intentionally destroying civilian shelters

Next 3-4 Weeks Will Be Max Heat, The Bargain Will Be Zelenskyy Before The World Waving A White Flag, Putin Is In This All Or Nothing, Stay Tuned!

 

[Scott Downey]

Russia is going to increase the war effort as needed.
Ukraine is right on the doorstep, it is not like Afghanistan.
I think Russian leaders view this as a survive or perish situation (like regime change and worse) if they had done nothing or the war fails for Russia. Putin has talked a lot about the morally corrupt and depraved western nations, he does not want those values worming into Russian society.

I see no backing down on the plan to keep Ukraine out of NATO.

 

[Hidden In Him]

Putin Is In This All Or Nothing

I think Russian leaders view this as a survive or perish situation (like regime change and worse) if they had done nothing or the war fails for Russia. Putin has talked a lot about the morally corrupt and depraved western nations, he does not want those values worming into Russian society.

Correct. The problem, however, is that the globalists will never let him have Ukraine. If the Russians do manage to take both Eastern and Western Ukraine, it will not be without a tremendous loss of life and military hardware, and months of slugging it out for every inch of territory in cities like Kyiv, Lviv, Kharkiv and Odessa, not to mention all the small towns along the way.

And do you know what's waiting for him if he ever succeeds? After the Russians have spent what would likely be well over a year fighting the Ukrainians tooth and nail, they would be staring NATO in the face. They are just sitting there on the Polish border waiting for them. IF Putin somehow annexed the entire country, you think NATO member nation states would just agree to it peacefully? The Russian army would then have an entirely new war to fight, against the entire Western world, after having expended itself for well over a year or two in urban warfare.

The one thing that might save them is if Putin starts employing tactical nuclear weapons on the battlefield. Not only would it eliminate the loss of life and equipment he is presently suffering, but it would also put some teeth behind his veiled threat to escalate things to a full-on nuclear war. That MIGHT be enough to secure a peace treaty in Russia's favor, but I think Western intelligence is embedded in the Russian military and they will know if he is bluffing or not. And since I don't think he's as nuts as Western media claims he is, I don't think he wants a nuclear war.

As things stand, I think this goes on indefinitely as a conventional war, with Russia slowly gaining territory but at a terrible cost financially. I think the globalist plan is to slowly drain the Russians economically, while reducing the rest of the world to poverty in the process, and using Putin as a scapegoat to blame it on.