The making of the new creation…..

[Not me]

1 Corinthians 3:3 (NKJV)
for you are still carnal. For where [there are] envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like [mere] men?

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‘for you are still carnal etc,’ or, ‘for you are still fleshy etc’, or, the same truth just put forth with different words;

~for you are still under the control of own will if you are behaving like a mere man~

For being made free from own will is the transition of life put forth in many different ways in scripture… For denying of self, dying to self, being dead in Christ, being crucified with Christ, not I but Christ, Christ living His life in and through, Christ our life, or whatever other terminology scripture uses to describe this truth of the transition of life….. For coming out from under the control of own will is the one and only thing that brings one out from under the control of one’s fallen nature….. For until one does, envy, strife, divisions, and behaving like a mere man will be that which can not help but be the fruit of one not coming out from under the power of one’s fallen nature…

For the will seeking after what own will wants, what own will thinks, what own will desires, what own will imagines, rather then seeking after righteousness, is that which keeps one under the power of own will… For seeing the circumstances of life are not the issue, but the manifestation of righteousness in those circumstances… For this is where this truth of transition is experienced, it is this, which can, will and does, free one to walk in the newness of life that is put forth in scripture…

For carnality is the fruit of being under the power and control of one’s own will, seeing the necessity of being made free from it is that which is necessary… Then a knowing and a believing that Christ’s death frees one from own will, is the doorway out from under the power and control of this will…Then, the simplicity of faith is that which is required, a believing into it, a reckoning it to be so, because Christ did die, and took our fallen natures to death with Him on the cross and therefore being joined with Him in His death, frees one from own will if one but wants to be freed from own will enough to believe it to be so…….

For Christ did die and therefore, he that is willing to enter into his own death by faith will be set free from sin, or, the same truth, but as scripture puts forth this truth; ‘he that has died is freed from sin’, and again in still other words, he that has died is freed from own will, own will being that from where all sin comes from…

For being set free from behaving like a mere man will be found nowhere, but in the very denying of one’s self, picking up one’s cross, and following Him, so one might experience the transition of life… For to the degree one embraces one’s death in Christ, to that degree will one walk in newness of life, or, to that degree will one experience the making of the new creation…


Unto Him be our all, Not me

 

[Karl Peters]

OF COURSE!

Saul/Paul - was a very interesting person for the Lord to use to write so many books in the Bible. Of course God has His reasons for all things He does. So if our God and Lord chooses someone His reason are worth understanding - meaning we need to talk to Him about them because understanding comes from His voice (Prov 2:6)

Saul/Paul would certainly have known what it means to be in the flesh and still know Jesus the Christ. As Saul the Pharisee Saul was in a battle against the early Christians. And also, as Paul, an early Christian we see him getting into arguments with other Christians. We read where he found that he did the very things he did not want to do and discover the principle that evil was present in us. (See Romans 7) We also read that Paul did not consider that he had had achieved but pressed on.

So what are we to say - that God choose a fool to write so much of the Bible. Yeah probably. Jesus did say something about God using the foolish things of this world.

But then again, we who indeed know the Lord find that He choose us. I feel we often miss the deeper understanding when we read the Bible, and it shows. The Bible is about us, us personally, and not the other person. Oh yeah, they have the same problems we personally have, but God had Paul write to us personally. Yes - we still find that we have " envy, strife, and divisions among" ourselves - and I mean that we inside us personally have that battle in us!! So the verse is not meant to judge others but to judge ourselves and realize what goes on is ourselves personally!

Yeah - it might seem that Paul was writing to the evil Christian at Corinth, but God was writing to us through Paul, was He not?


Rom 7:19-21 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.

Sometimes we practice envy, strife, and divisions among ourselves. It should help us understand where the battle is!

 

[Not me]

OF COURSE!

Saul/Paul - was a very interesting person for the Lord to use to write so many books in the Bible. Of course God has His reasons for all things He does. So if our God and Lord chooses someone His reason are worth understanding - meaning we need to talk to Him about them because understanding comes from His voice (Prov 2:6)

Saul/Paul would certainly have known what it means to be in the flesh and still know Jesus the Christ. As Saul the Pharisee Saul was in a battle against the early Christians. And also, as Paul, an early Christian we see him getting into arguments with other Christians. We read where he found that he did the very things he did not want to do and discover the principle that evil was present in us. (See Romans 7) We also read that Paul did not consider that he had had achieved but pressed on.

So what are we to say - that God choose a fool to write so much of the Bible. Yeah probably. Jesus did say something about God using the foolish things of this world.

But then again, we who indeed know the Lord find that He choose us. I feel we often miss the deeper understanding when we read the Bible, and it shows. The Bible is about us, us personally, and not the other person. Oh yeah, they have the same problems we personally have, but God had Paul write to us personally. Yes - we still find that we have " envy, strife, and divisions among" ourselves - and I mean that we inside us personally have that battle in us!! So the verse is not meant to judge others but to judge ourselves and realize what goes on is ourselves personally!

Yeah - it might seem that Paul was writing to the evil Christian at Corinth, but God was writing to us through Paul, was He not?


Rom 7:19-21 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want. But if I am doing the very thing I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but sin which dwells in me. I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.

Sometimes we practice envy, strife, and divisions among ourselves. It should help us understand where the battle is!

Be blessed in your walk with Him….


A fellow walker, Not me

 

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~for you are still under the control of own will if you are behaving like a mere man~

Hi Not me,

Not your own will. The fleshy desires of the old man. No longer you. I feel that is important to understand, to keep in mind. It is no more I, but sin that lives in me. Deceptive lusts. Making you think this is you.

I think the mind of the flesh feels so much like me because that's how I'm used to thinking. A mind, a will, that function as if unregenerate, these are from the flesh. Not me.

Much love!

 

[Not me]

Hi Not me,

Not your own will. The fleshy desires of the old man. No longer you. I feel that is important to understand, to keep in mind. It is no more I, but sin that lives in me. Deceptive lusts. Making you think this is you.

I think the mind of the flesh feels so much like me because that's how I'm used to thinking. A mind, a will, that function as if unregenerate, these are from the flesh. Not me.

Much love!

Your understanding has a lot of truth in it…

But understanding how the term own will is being used and meant will (I believe) clear up a few things….

Own will is that will that was born in Adam, it is the will in each of us if given the chance and choice will choose to sin… It is this will that we are told to deny or die to, because this will is the cause of all our sinning….

The new birth, the new creation’s will can not and can never sin because it is born of God and has the will to righteousness in all things….

Be blessed in dying to one that the other might rule in the life…


A fellow believer, Not me