The Insanity of the "right" to have guns!

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mailmandan

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He got rid of Obama's executive orders, created jobs by lowering taxes, regulations, fixed international trade deals for our profits, built a wall that was almost finished and much more. Minoroties enjoyed the lowest unemployment rates seen ever in history. The rest of us prospered with 3 - 4+ % annual GPD increase. He made America Great Again - for a short time until the election was stolen. Now we are going down. Biden reversed what Trump did.
Trump really exposed the Left Wing - who they are, the fake news media and their whole socialist and Climate Change fraudulent agenda. He knew who was behind it, didn't mention names althoigh I think he made a comment about Rockefeller.
He delayed what
is inevitable - but it's prophesied. Don't worry - God is sovereign and allowing all this to form into what it is to ultimately lead to Judgment Day.
You beat me to it. ;)
 
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"A few bad apples can spoil the whole bunch!" This is how Satan works. He plants tares in churches in governments, on the streets, in the schools and he seeks to destroy all that is good.
It is an upside down world now when good means evil and evil means good.
Isaiah warned us about the times we are in:
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isaiah 5:20.
 

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Obama deported more illegals than Trump did
Logic would reason that he let more in, wheras Trump was strict and stopped them by threatening Mexico to stop them and they did comply. So not as many were needed to deport because a lot less were coming over. But he was more concerned about the hard criminals like MS-13 and getting them out.
Biden is letting in millions now. They say by the end of his term, 8 million will have illegally crossed the borders with their hands out.
It would be nice to see Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Schumer invite, adopt and support some of those poverty stricken families in their own multi-million dollar homes with walls and armed guards protecting them. No, they don't really give a crap about them, nor will they have to live near them.
 
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Right now we're supporting Nazi Ukranians with billions of dollars of weapons and ammo to wipe out and genocide indigenous russian Ukranians.
They're not even doing background checks, they're just passing them out like candy.
Worry about your own back yard. You got people in your country that like to wield machetes.
They rather hack them then shoot them.
We'll protect our back yard, as soon as Brandon gets off his arse and closes the cartels from bringing in mass weapons of destruction.
They sell em on the black market, kids get hand guns left around accidently on purpose.
All of these shootings are not coincidental, there is an agenda behind them.
They want to disarm the citenzry so they can enslave us.
We know this, we're not stupid or ignorant.
I'd worry about all the people flowing out of Ukraine that aren't Ukranians with weapons with no background checks, flowing into your borders.
We're all in the same boat.
Difference is, some people have eyes to see, while others have their head in the sand or glued to the media.
Mockingbird Media. Tell A Vision. Hypnotism. MK Ultra. It's real.
We can't free your minds, only you can.
Time to wake up.
or not.
 

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WHY is it ONLY the USA with this problem in the western world?

There is no doubt that it is your gun laws that are responsible!
some countries have shootings, others have bombings.
Like London for instance.
Some people are just dead set on killing other people.

What other western country has the unalienable rights to bear arms and protect themselves against tyranny?
None?
Well there's your answer.
We are the opposition, and they don't like it.

Law abiding citizens are not committing these crimes. Why not.. hey I just had an idea.. why don't we go after the criminals (lightbulb)
Because the criminals are running the governments all of them. And they don't want any opposition to enslave the masses.

They're going to hit a roadblock here.
And if we lose, the world will lose.

This is bigger than you think, and I think you know it. You just rather take the side that's got the money.
That's a shame, because money won't save you in the end.
 
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Obama deported more illegals than Trump did
Obama built the cages the children were kept in.
Trump built the facilities that had doctors and teachers and lawyers and judges on site.

Trump's policy of remain in Mexico, was to keep illegal entrance (invasion) into our country.
Once they were vetted and proven to have a legitimate reason for entrance they were allowed in.
But bad people like gangs MS13 and other terrorist organizations were apprehended and sent back where they came from.
Trump deported thousands, but many never even made it across the border.
The drug cartels were getting beaten back. Women and child trafficking was being addressed. Many women and children were freed from this slavery and torture.
Trump found their underground tunnels and sealed them.

What did Obama do? He sold the cartel guns which they in turn sold to the criminals and put them on our streets.
Fast and Furious.

It will all come out, just like the russia collusion delusion. People will be arrested like Pelosi's husband who was just arrested for DUI in California.
These people got courts and judges in their pockets. They pay to play.
Seth Rich, Ambassador Stevens.. say their names...

We have evil people running the world. They don't care how many babies are killed as long as the end game is in their favour.

Madeline Albright was questioned about the Iraqi war.. 500,000 children were slaughtered in the bombings, was it worth it?
he said, Yes, I believe it was worth it.

And your worried about law abiding citizens with guns, when we are up against some of the most henious actors ever to walk the face of this earth?
The pit of hell has been opened and they are walking among us.
I am concerned at the lack of discernment among people who call themselves Christian and yet are oblivious to the evil around us.
Unless of course they are part of that group that walks among us, trying to convince us, that we are blind and only they can see,

They're using the kids because children draw more emotional response. And that's what they feed off of.
It is disturbing, and soul wrenching watching the carnage on display. But we also know that it's the main purpose and means to get their agenda filled.
We're not falling for it.

Because we know.
Pop Corn was a bad dude.
Joe sold us out when he was VP. Nothing has changed.
Trump baught us time to wake up and smell the coffee. To see through the smokescreen and gaslighting they been pulling on us for generations.
To wake up.
He did a lot of good, and will do it again.

Make America Great Again Again!
Ultra Maga King! LOL
Joe gave Trump that name. I think it's awesome.
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because of the gun laws that have been in these states for many years before the strict policies, and guns being taken in from other states!

you gun haters all say the same things, like you only repeat what the media tells you. For instance, when we talk about how chicago has some of the strictest gun laws, and a higher shooting number, the gun haters come in and say well chicagos gun laws dont matter because they go get guns in Indiana. Then i ask, so why isnt indianas shootings just as high? If lax laws cause chicago to have a high murder rate, why isnt indianas just as high? To which i get, crickets for answers. Its not the guns, its the people.
 
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you gun haters all say the same things, like you only repeat what the media tells you. For instance, when we talk about how chicago has some of the strictest gun laws, and a higher shooting number, the gun haters come in and say well chicagos gun laws dont matter because they go get guns in Indiana. Then i ask, so why isnt indianas shootings just as high? If lax laws cause chicago to have a high murder rate, why isnt indianas just as high? To which i get, crickets for answers. Its not the guns, its the people.

But if guns were regulated in Indiana, then they would have to travel even farther to get them. The solution is federal gun control.
 

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But if guns were regulated in Indiana, then they would have to travel even farther to get them. The solution is federal gun control.

yeaaa because criminals dont break laws do they.
See, this is where i get confused… because i know in my neck of the woods, if you come in trying to buy a gun in my state but you live in another state, they wont sell to you. If you ever buy guns online, they have to send that gun to a FFL near you, then when you go to pick it up, you have to do a background check. Matter of fact, if you go down to tenn. Where bud’s gun shop is and you try to buy a gun there at the store, they wont sell it to you, but a FFL near you. The laws that people say they want, we already have. So that makes me question what big govt will put into the new laws.

no more gun control!!!!
 

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yeaaa because criminals dont break laws do they.
See, this is where i get confused… because i know in my neck of the woods, if you come in trying to buy a gun in my state but you live in another state, they wont sell to you. If you ever buy guns online, they have to send that gun to a FFL near you, then when you go to pick it up, you have to do a background check. Matter of fact, if you go down to tenn. Where bud’s gun shop is and you try to buy a gun there at the store, they wont sell it to you, but a FFL near you. The laws that people say they want, we already have. So that makes me question what big govt will put into the new laws.

no more gun control!!!!

Are you truly that naive? There are many ways to buy guns other than going to licensed gun store. You can even buy "kit guns" through the mail piece by piece.

There is a real need for Federal gun laws!
 

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you gun haters all say the same things, like you only repeat what the media tells you. For instance, when we talk about how chicago has some of the strictest gun laws, and a higher shooting number, the gun haters come in and say well chicagos gun laws dont matter because they go get guns in Indiana. Then i ask, so why isnt indianas shootings just as high? If lax laws cause chicago to have a high murder rate, why isnt indianas just as high? To which i get, crickets for answers. Its not the guns, its the people.

Interesting how you classify people who disagree with you as "gun haters". That just shows how little you know. I have owned guns my entire life and still have quite a few. So, does that qualify me as a "gun hater"? Of course not!

I believe that gun ownership should be Federally regulated; you only repeat what the NRA and anti-government media tell you. Call me whatever names you want; it's irrelevant.
 

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Are you truly that naive? There are many ways to buy guns other than going to licensed gun store. You can even buy "kit guns" through the mail piece by piece.

There is a real need for Federal gun laws!

and what fed gun law would have stopped any of the mass shootings?
 

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Yep looking to buy a black powder rifle that way. One I can build and finish on my own.

Something like this:

https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/...sket-.58-caliber-rifled-build-it-yourself-kit

If this is your first build let me advise you that it will not be easy. I am not a very skilled woodworker so I have always bought my black powder guns. I have sold some but still have a .45 caliber Traditions cap lock pistol, a Traditions .45 caliber Hawken, a Lyman .45 caliber Hawken, and a .35 caliber flintlock (I don't remember the brand). The last is my favorite to shoot -- you know when the gun goes off! -- but the Lyman is my favorite for general use. BTW, I use Pyrodex, not black powder (except to prime the flintlock pan).
 

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If this is your first build let me advise you that it will not be easy. I am not a very skilled woodworker so I have always bought my black powder guns. I have sold some but still have a .45 caliber Traditions cap lock pistol, a Traditions .45 caliber Hawken, a Lyman .45 caliber Hawken, and a .35 caliber flintlock (I don't remember the brand). The last is my favorite to shoot -- you know when the gun goes off! -- but the Lyman is my favorite for general use. BTW, I use Pyrodex, not black powder (except to prime the flintlock pan).

Thank you for letting me know!

So do you advise that I just buy an already built one?
 

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Thank you for letting me know!

So do you advise that I just buy an already built one?

There always has to be a first time, but I don't have the skill. Unless you're a skilled woodworker I would buy a pre-made. Traditions has always sold quality black powder guns.

BTW, .58 caliber is a large caliber (and the gun will be heavy). If you're not hunting elk -- I am serious! -- 45 caliber is much better.
 
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