I only read and responded to your 1st post, as best I can recall. just speaking to the idea that the Ezekiel prophecy was anything more than a symbolic vision to be taken ultra-literally.
True. That's all you've done, but until now you have not addressed the first argument I make from Scripture, which is the basis for all my arguments about prophecy of Scripture.
You're leading to a predetermined answer,
Scripture is, not me. I don't write Scripture, but just quote it, so that Scripture can speak for itself and lead to obvious conclusions about the prophecy of God.
You are acknowledging here, that you know exactly what God is saying about what is prophecy: That which He says shall come to pass is prophecy of God.
namely that if God's word of prophecy can never fail, and if that prophecy calls for a rebuilt temple of Ezekiel's specifications, then it *must take place in the future.*
Now you are addressing the first point I make, and though you know exactly the point Scripture is making, you reject it where you don't want it to apply.
You are acknowledging here exactly what you know God says prophecy is: That which is He says shall come to pass.
Again, as I argued, this assumes the vision is not a vision, is not symbolic,
And finally you are saying here, that you don't care what God says prophecy is, but only what you say prophecy is: Your personal rule of prophecy is by
how God gives it to His prophets, which does not include visions.
And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
And once again, God says otherwise, that He gives His prophecy to His prophets by visions and dreams.
And since you rule out any vision as being prophecy, then you also must rule out dreams, since they are even less firm than visions.
Now the rest of the acts of Hezekiah, and his goodness, behold, they are written in the vision of Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, and in the book of the kings of Judah and Israel.
Since all of Isaiah is vision only, then none of it is prophecy.
Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
This prophecy of Messiah does not come to pass, because it not prophecy, but only a dream.
and did not speak of the future in contemporary terms that would ultimately be fulfilled by Christ.
And now you say that which is not prophecy, but only vision, is prophecy that would come to pass in Christ.
Christ will fulfill His prophecy given to Ezekiel, exactly as the vision shows: The Christ will build His own temple and palace for His own Millennium, out of which shall flow waters becoming a river to heal the sea.
A number of clues tell you this, but you ignore them.
1) It's a vision.
And therefore not a prophecy, because no vision is prophecy of God.
Nor dreams.
2) It speaks of the Law, which in the NT is fulfilled.
You speak of the law of Moses, where Scripture does not speak of Moses at all.
So now you say every law spoken of in Scripture, is that of Moses, when the law is not named.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
James is telling us to keep the law of Moses in all points.
3) It speaks of a temple high up on a mountain, which is not where the temple is located.
And so now Isaiah is joining in false prophecy with Ezekiel.
4) We are told it is a "pattern," speaking of symbolic fulfillments in the future.
I reject your Symbol Man's Bible, where people either reject prophecy altogether, or alter it to their own satisfaction.
5) The 12 tribes received equal territories, which is not according to the Law. Nor can there be 12 separate tribes in the future.
I could go on....
5) The 12 tribes received equal territories, which is not according to the Law. Nor can there be 12 separate tribes in the future.
And now you reject prophecy, by making the prophecy say what it does not.
Best not to. So far, you reject what God says about His prophecies, and make your own rule of prophecy, so that you can reject any of His prophecies you don't like.
And you also add to or insert in Scripture your own words, to change their meaning.
Your problem is you think in teaching of Scripture and prophecy of Scripture, we only answer to one another.
We don't. We answer to God.