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Can sinning can be overcome in this life with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Some Preachers and even theologian do not believe that all sinning can be overcome in this life either with or without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Only certain sins can be overcome, thus they leave a 'gap' where sin can continue in our lives.

But people take this to mean that they can keep sinning as there is nothing they can do, or that these 'sins' are not really "hard sins" or "iniquity", but just part of being in a sinful world. Is that correct according to scripture?

Here are some texts on how we choose to heed the desires of our flesh, and for whatever reason, set aside the conviction of the Holy Spirit. "The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak" Mark 14:38.

James 1:14-15 - But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

Galatians 5:17 - For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
 

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People cannot overcome sin by their own actions. Sin is only overcome through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Leopards can't change their spots. Once we have accepted Jesus God does not see our sin anymore because it is all washed clean by the blood of the Lamb.
 
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Can sinning can be overcome in this life with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

OF COURSE.

How do you know?
Its because the born again "can do all things through Christ" who has "made us free from sin".

How do to it?

Like this.

"Christ Always, gives me the victory" so that you become "as many as be PERFECT" Paul teaches, which means that the believer walks in the Spirit, having a renewed mind, and maintains this to perfection....= which results in them, me, you, becoming, "the fullness of the stature of Christ""" on Earth...........Paul teaches.

We are BORN again, to exits down here.... as that end result, right here on earth.

Its attained not by trying to be like Christ, but by understanding completely, who you have become as "the righteousness of God in Christ as a "New Creation".
Its this REVELATION< that bring you to a perfected discipleship.
 

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Can sinning can be overcome in this life with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

It can be overcome.

“Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil; Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.” (Isaiah 1:16-17)

“Awake to righteousness, and sin not...” (1 Corinthians 15:34)


People cannot overcome sin by there own actions.

On the contrary:

“…reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.” (Romans 6:11-12)
 

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Jesus can certainly save you from committing sins. That's why he is called the Savior from sin. If you still sin, you are still a slave of sin because Jesus said when he shall make you free, you shall be free indeed. Is anything hard and impossible to God? But because of unbelief, one cannot experience this.

One can also know this truth of being freed from sin, but only by knowledge and not in power. Knowledge puffeth up. For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

Ezekiel 33:31-32 KJV
And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness. [32] And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.
 

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People cannot overcome sin by there own actions. Sin is only overcome through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Leopards can't change their spots. Once we have accepted Jesus God does not see our sin anymore because it is all washed clean by the blood of the Lamb.
So can a Christian sin, like Ravi Zacharias, and God doesnt see it no more..
 
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Can sinning can be overcome in this life with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
Sinning has already been overcome in us by the power of our Risen Christ. We have been separated from the old man we were by death, and have been born a new man who does righteousness.

Only, we tend to not believe that because the "evidence of our senses" is that sin is not dead within us.

Where we go wrong is failing to realize, this mass of feelings in me, this mess of thoughts in my head - it's not me. Not anymore.

It's the echoes of a dead and depraved flesh, that used to be me, but isn't any more.

We are so used to how the fleshy mind thinks of things, we easily adopt those thoughts as our own. We walk according to flesh without realizing it. Caught up in the stuggles and issues and fears and doubts, and it's sin before we even start acting out.

The fruit of the Spirit is love and joy and peace and self-control and all the rest, and if this is not the fruit we see in ourselves - now, what am I thinking/feeling/doing now? We have the option to walk in the Spirit. As we go through life, God is training us more and more to walk in the Spirit. Trusting that He makes this so for us is the faith that is our part.

Much love!
 
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So can a Christian sin, like Ravi Zacharias, and God doesnt see it no more..
Christians, that is true born again Christians no longer live sinful lives but they can still think, say and do wrong things. But before they were born again they knew no better but now they do, and recognise their sinful actions.
 

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But before they were born again they knew no better but now they do, and recognise their sinful actions.

And if they willfully turn to back to sin:

“…it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.” (2 Peter 2:21)

“For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.” (Hebrews 6:4-6)
 
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People cannot overcome sin by there own actions. Sin is only overcome through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Leopards can't change their spots. Once we have accepted Jesus God does not see our sin anymore because it is all washed clean by the blood of the Lamb.
i sure hope you dont mean THIS . If i went out tonight and fornicated , God wont see that nor hold me accountable .
The early church , THROUGH the POWER of GOD had men and women delivered unto destruction for said sin .
SO as they would repent of it . JESUS BLOOD does not give me power to sin nor excuse to do so .
It does something and did something entirely different . IT TURNED ME FROM MY SIN and my LOVE OF MY SIN
putting a new heart in me that hates the sin and loves the good .
 

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i sure hope you dont mean THIS . If i went out tonight and fornicated , God wont see that nor hold me accountable .
The early church , THROUGH the POWER of GOD had men and women delivered unto destruction for said sin .
SO as they would repent of it . JESUS BLOOD does not give me power to sin nor excuse to do so .
It does something and did something entirely different . IT TURNED ME FROM MY SIN and my LOVE OF MY SIN
putting a new heart in me that hates the sin and loves the good .
There is a world of difference between hating sin and hating people. Do you agree?
 
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Can sinning can be overcome in this life with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Some Preachers and even theologian do not believe that all sinning can be overcome in this life either with or without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Only certain sins can be overcome, thus they leave a 'gap' where sin can continue in our lives.

But people take this to mean that they can keep sinning as there is nothing they can do, or that these 'sins' are not really "hard sins" or "iniquity", but just part of being in a sinful world. Is that correct according to scripture?

Here are some texts on how we choose to heed the desires of our flesh, and for whatever reason, set aside the conviction of the Holy Spirit. "The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak" Mark 14:38.

James 1:14-15 - But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

Galatians 5:17 - For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
We can overcome sin by seeking God and going to church and serving the Lord and his children. That's how I did it. But it wasn't easy. Now I lost my wife and have trouble with sinning sometimes. But I think the Lord knows that.
 

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Every person sins. It is unavoidable because we are humans and not yet perfected. However, Christians are not captives to sin. We make mistakes, repent, and are forgiven because we are in Christ. Non-Christians are controlled by their sin nature; they cannot keep from sinning.
 

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Can sinning can be overcome in this life with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

Some Preachers and even theologian do not believe that all sinning can be overcome in this life either with or without the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Only certain sins can be overcome, thus they leave a 'gap' where sin can continue in our lives.

But people take this to mean that they can keep sinning as there is nothing they can do, or that these 'sins' are not really "hard sins" or "iniquity", but just part of being in a sinful world. Is that correct according to scripture?

Here are some texts on how we choose to heed the desires of our flesh, and for whatever reason, set aside the conviction of the Holy Spirit. "The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak" Mark 14:38.

James 1:14-15 - But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

Galatians 5:17 - For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.
Yes, it can.Jesus came to destroy the world of the devil.

1 John 3:1-10
See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him. 2 Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is. 3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure. 4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him, and he cannot keep on sinning because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.
 

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Israel is called as such because they know that they struggle with God. They're the ones who admit that they're in need of guidance. I have yet to see anyone demonstrate successfully to me that they can be sinless in this life.
 

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Israel is called as such because they know that they struggle with God. They're the ones who admit that they're in need of guidance. I have yet to see anyone demonstrate successfully to me that they can be sinless in this life.
Please explain 1 John 3 and 1 John 5.
 

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Sinning has already been overcome in us by the power of our Risen Christ. We have been separated from the old man we were by death, and have been born a new man who does righteousness.

Only, we tend to not believe that because the "evidence of our senses" is that sin is not dead within us.

Where we go wrong is failing to realize, this mass of feelings in me, this mess of thoughts in my head - it's not me. Not anymore.

It's the echoes of a dead and depraved flesh, that used to be me, but isn't any more.

We are so used to how the fleshy mind thinks of things, we easily adopt those thoughts as our own. We walk according to flesh without realizing it. Caught up in the stuggles and issues and fears and doubts, and it's sin before we even start acting out.

The fruit of the Spirit is love and joy and peace and self-control and all the rest, and if this is not the fruit we see in ourselves - now, what am I thinking/feeling/doing now? We have the option to walk in the Spirit. As we go through life, God is training us more and more to walk in the Spirit. Trusting that He makes this so for us is the faith that is our part.

Much love!
So can we overcome like Job; and be a man that "was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil."
 

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So can we overcome like Job; and be a man that "was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil."
Job was still not sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, 100% of the time and neither is anyone else (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23) except for Jesus Christ. (Hebrews 4:15) Job had admitted his sinfulness. (Job 7:21; 13:26)

Those who believe they live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time (exactly as Jesus lived) are suffering from a terminal case of self righteousness. (1 John 1:8-10)