Would you breed your dog, have 8 puppies, keep 2 and then dump the rest in the middle of nowhere?

[Patrick1966]

If you wouldn't, why then do you believe that God would?

 

[Helen]

Amen to that!

 

[Windmillcharge]

If you wouldn't, why then do you believe that God would?

Who is claiming that God has or does that?

 

[Patrick1966]

Who is claiming that God has or does that?

Most of mainstream Christianity.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Most of mainstream Christianity.

How do you say they do that?

 

[Patrick1966]

How do you say they do that?

Most Christians believe that Jesus sends people to eternal suffering. He doesn't do that, of course.

 

[PossibleThrowawayAccount]

Most of mainstream Christianity.

Do you mean literally or metaphorically because most people act like animals are unimportant?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

If you wouldn't, why then do you believe that God would?

Not a good analogy but I'll play along. I allow the dogs to grow to an age where they can decide to receive a life saving vaccine that will cure them of their mental and behavioral disease. I'll try over and over again in different ways. After years of rebelling, biting the hand that feeds them, disobeying and seeking instead to go off on their own ... so then I say okay, have it your way and let them.

 

[Patrick1966]

Not a good analogy but I'll play along. I allow the dogs to grow to an age where they can decide to receive a life saving vaccine that will cure them of their mental and behavioral disease. I'll try over and over again in different ways. After years of rebelling, biting the hand that feeds them, disobeying and seeking instead to go off on their own ... so then I say okay, have it your way and let them.

So you would let the dog run into traffic, get hit by a car, and then suffer a long, slow, torturous death? And you think God does that too?

 

[Bob Estey]

If you wouldn't, why then do you believe that God would?

I wouldn't and I don't believe God would.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

So you would let the dog run into traffic, get hit by a car, and then suffer a long, slow, torturous death? And you think God does that too?

No, that is why a keep a lease on my dog to prevent her from running into traffic. I do all that I can to keep her healthy and happy - my Lulu. She's a good girl. But some bad dogs, like pit bulls that bite people and cannot be controlled -- must be put down!
God gives life and takes it away. Everyone dies, each in there own time ordained by God. I think God's justice is fair. His judgments are fair. Death has a sting to it. It is painful in many ways. He offers all a solution to death, LIFE ETERNAL; but many will not receive it ... and they will be put down!

 

[Patrick1966]

No, that is why a keep a lease on my dog to prevent her from running into traffic. I do all that I can to keep her healthy and happy - my Lulu. She's a good girl. But some bad dogs, like pit bulls that bite people and cannot be controlled -- must be put down!
God gives life and takes it away. Everyone dies, each in there own time ordained by God. I think God's justice is fair. His judgments are fair. Death has a sting to it. It is painful in many ways. He offers all a solution to death, LIFE ETERNAL; but many will not receive it ... and they will be put down!

God didn't create us in order to torture us for eternity. ALL will be saved.

1 Timothy 4:10
For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.

 

[Windmillcharge]

Most Christians believe that Jesus sends people to eternal suffering. He doesn't do that, of course.

Here we go the indignant moral offended christian who distrusts the idea that God could possible be Just and right in how he deals wi5h those who hate him.

 

[Patrick1966]

Here we go the indignant moral offended christian who distrusts the idea that God could possible be Just and right in how he deals wi5h those who hate him.

They don't go to Jesus because they are deceived and lost. But Jesus is patient and NEVER gives up on them.

From Luke 15:
Then Jesus told them this parable: 4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep UNTIL HE FINDS IT?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

God didn't create us in order to torture us for eternity

Agreed, I never claimed otherwise.
And God is the Savior for all who believe.
"Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”John 8:24

 

[Windmillcharge]

They don't go to Jesus because they are deceived and lost. But Jesus is patient and NEVER gives up on them.

From Luke 15:
Then Jesus told them this parable: 4 “Suppose one of you has a hundred sheep and loses one of them. Doesn’t he leave the ninety-nine in the open country and go after the lost sheep UNTIL HE FINDS IT?

Then why do you repeatedly post your nonsense a out God torturing peop,e if you believe it won't happen?

 

[Patrick1966]

Then why do you repeatedly post your nonsense a out God torturing peop,e if you believe it won't happen?

Nonsense? God torturing his creation for eternity is the backbone of mainstream Christianity.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Nonsense? God torturing his creation for eternity is the backbone of mainstream Christianity.

The Gospel is the backbone. But even that is a poor analogy; I would call it the heart of Christianity. The Good News shines light on the Bad News.

 

[Patrick1966]

The Gospel is the backbone. But even that is a poor analogy; I would call it the heart of Christianity. The Good News shines light on the Bad News.

Do you know anyone that is likely to be tortured forever by Jesus?

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Do you know anyone that is likely to be tortured forever by Jesus?

I don't adhere to the traditional Christian view of eternal torment. This motivated me to write a book with two chapters devoted to the nature of Hell: " Hell ... If I Know".