Forgiveness vs Atonement

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amigo de christo

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I have already explained to you..I follow the Holy Spirit..who is in the Spirit of Behold and EG...do you understand that Epi?

And, the same could be said about you...why do people follow you?..

We are taught by the Spirit Epi.
Not exactly my dear friend . Any spirit that denies the absolute truth that one must beleive in JESUS CHRIST
AINT THE HOLY ONE nor does it come of THE HOLY ONE .
 

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Your right,

THATS WHY WE NEED SAVED..

Saved from the POWER of sin....not just forgiven for continuing sin.
Thats why in the same passage it says THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE

Life that gives us the power over sin...to walk as Jesus walked.
yes,

but more importantly. we are saved from the penalty of sin

The other way around. Unless we are separated from the power of sin...we will reap death.
otherwise, we are still dead..

Unless we are freed from the power of sin.
I see you must still be dead yourself.. since you think your just saved to not sin anymore.. yet you still sin.

lol
The one who sees himself as sinless while still in a sinful state is your accomplice Behold.

I don't have to be Jesus to quote Him correctly.

What you crows are doing is trying to promote what is exactly opposite to what Jesus taught.
 

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Saved from the POWER of sin....not just forgiven for continuing sin.
Saving me from the power of sin will not help me, if I am not saved from the penalty of sin

I will still be dead
Life that gives us the power over sin...to walk as Jesus walked.
Thats great, But if your not born again, YOUR STILL DEAD, and you do not walk as jesus walked, only in your head.
The other way around. Unless we are separated from the power of sin...we will reap death.
You mess it up. Your already dead. unless you have been born again. You just do not get it do you?
Unless we are freed from the power of sin.

The one who sees himself as sinless while still in a sinful state is your accomplice Behold.

I don't have to be Jesus to quote Him correctly.

What you crows are doing is trying to promote what is exactly opposite to what Jesus taught.
lol

What you are trying to do is save yourself and reject the salvation of God.


Good luck in that.
 
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Who frees you from the power of sin?

How are you freed from the power of death and sin?...spiritual death as in the first Adam?
The cross of Christ is the power over sin...by crucifying the outer man sin nature...to liberate the inner man to be joined to Christ in resurrection life. That is the power of the gospel.
 

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The cross of Christ is the power over sin...by crucifying the outer man sin nature...to liberate the inner man to be joined to Christ in resurrection life. That is the power of the gospel.
To be joined to Christ in resurrection life?

You must be birthed in the Spirit , for God to forgive your sins..much more to it than that....Jesus paid the price for our sins at Calvary....hence being birthed by the Holy Spirit...who came after Jesus death.

Ephesians 2:1-10​

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2 As for you, you were dead in your transgressions and sins, 2 in which you used to live when you followed the ways of this worldand of the ruler of the kingdom of the air, the spirit who is now at work in those who are disobedient. 3 All of us also lived among them at one time, gratifying the cravings of our flesh[a] and following its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature deserving of wrath. 4 But because of his great love for us,God, who is rich in mercy, 5 made us alive with Christ even when we were dead in transgressions—it is by grace you have been saved. 6 And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with himin the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace,expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by graceyou have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.
 
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Jesus was perfect. Not one sin

how can someone think they walked as Jesus walked ?
I know,,,next he’ll be saying he can walk on water, LOL...

He’s not understanding the walking in the Spirit...as all Born Agains do....we learn to walk in the Spirit and our teacher/ helper is the Holy Spirit..,,he is our guide ....as Jesus promised.
 

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Jesus was perfect. Not one sin

how can someone think they walked as Jesus walked ?
Only those who enter into Christ and abide there with Him can walk as He walked. Read the bible.

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
 

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Only those who enter into Christ and abide there with Him can walk as He walked. Read the bible.

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
And you “ REPRESENT “ Jesus do you?.....Jesus humiliated everyone like you do did he....throwing verbal abuse as you do.

Wow!...you certainly aren’t walking as he did......now please tell me once again...that you walk perfectly in Jesus shoes....LOL.

Problem is you aren’t abiding in him are you?

It’s the Holy Spirit who keeps us abiding in Jesus..but often we abide in “ Our Flesh”?
 

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Only those who enter into Christ and abide there with Him can walk as He walked. Read the bible.

1 John 2:6 He that saith he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
In the moment we abide in him we do walk, as we love as he loved

but no one does it perfectly like he did. Thats why we still need saved
 
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And you “ REPRESENT “ Jesus do you?.....Jesus humiliated everyone like you do did he....throwing verbal abuse as you do.

Wow!...you certainly aren’t walking as he did......now please tell me once again...that you walk perfectly in Jesus shoes....LOL.

Problem is you aren’t abiding in him are you?
He states he still sins. So in his own admission he does not walk as Jesus walked
 
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And you “ REPRESENT “ Jesus do you?.....Jesus humiliated everyone like you do did he....throwing verbal abuse as you do.

Wow!...you certainly aren’t walking as he did......now please tell me once again...that you walk perfectly in Jesus shoes....LOL.

Problem is you aren’t abiding in him are you?

It’s the Holy Spirit who keeps us abiding in Jesus..but often we abide in “ Our Flesh”?
This is a carnal ego response to a bible verse that you want to ignore to support a false religious posturing.

Do you deny that John in 1 John was speaking the truth...just because you have no actual experience of a walk in Christ?

or will you continue to attack and slander me for posting bible verses? So typical of these posturers.
 

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This is a carnal ego response to a bible verse that you want to ignore to support a false religious posturing.

Do you deny that John in 1 John was speaking the truth...just because you have no actual experience of a walk in Christ?

or will you continue to attack and slander me for posting bible verses? So typical of these posturers.
lol, what a joke
 
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This is a carnal ego response to a bible verse that you want to ignore to support a false religious posturing.

Do you deny that John in 1 John was speaking the truth...just because you have no actual experience of a walk in Christ?

or will you continue to attack and slander me for posting bible verses? So typical of these posturers.
I know...the truth hurts..I spoke the truth...sorry you see it that way...you are carnal in the way you address members most of the time.

The only time you are nice, is when members agree with you.
 
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