Because the Bible does not say he is God. Not even once. It says he is the Messiah, the son of God.
SALVATION OF ANIMALS
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Philippians 3:20-21 (WEB):
(20) For our citizenship is in heaven, from where we also wait for a Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ;
(21) who will change the body of our humiliation to be conformed to the body of his glory, according to the working by which he is able even to subject all things to himself.
1 John 3:2 (WEB):
(2) Beloved, now we are children of God, and it is not yet revealed what we will be. But we know that when he {Christ} is revealed, we will be like him; for we will see him just as he is.
Jesus is now like God, having the same divine nature as God. He's not a glorified man. What God and His only begotten son Jesus are like, and what we will become, has not yet been revealed. We cannot imagine or know what Jesus is like. Spirit beings exist in other dimensions which we cannot comprehend or access. They existed before the physical universe and physical living beings were created. God and Jesus can be with everyone in the world at the same time - we cannot comprehend that either.
2 Peter 1:2-4 (WEB):
(2) Grace to you and peace be multiplied in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord,
(3) seeing that his divine power has granted to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and virtue;
(4) by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.
Taken
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SALVATION OF ANIMALS
Yes. God SAVES the souls of Animal-KIND as it pleases Him to do so.
(Same as God SAVES the souls of Man-KIND as it pleases Him to do so.)
Glory to God,
Taken
Yes. God SAVES the souls of Animal-KIND as it pleases Him to do so.
(Same as God SAVES the souls of Man-KIND as it pleases Him to do so.)
Glory to God,
Taken
Taken
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The Bible TEACHES Jesus has the SAME attributes and power OF God.
The Bible TEACHES what APPLIES to JESUS, applies to God, what APPLIES to GOD applies to Jesus.
ONLY God forgives SIN.
JESUS forgives SIN.
Gods WORD IS God.
JESUS IS Gods WORD.
Gods GLORY IS His Supreme (all encompassing) POWER, God GIVES to no one.
JESUS the CHRIST HAS Gods Supreme (all encompassing) POWER.
Heb 1:
[8] But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God,]/B] is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Whom do you think ….SAITH?
Whom do you think…..”O God” is said TO?
Glory to God,
Taken
Ronald Nolette
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Isaiah 44:6
Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
(Jesus is the Lord (Jehovah) of hosts.
Jesus (Jehovah) is the first and last.
Isaiah 9:6
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace
Jesus is the mighty God of the bible.
John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
The Word is called God and is Jesus.
John 5:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
Philippians 2:6
Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
The bible says Jesus is equal with god.
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
The bible says of Jesus- He was God manifest in the flesh.
John 14:9
Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
John 10:30
I and my Father are one.
See Jesus? See God!
Peterlag, the Bible shows you are wrong!
Ronald Nolette
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Jesus is the glorified God and glorified human! He is teh first fruits of the resurrection. And when we are in heaven we will be like HIm.
He ascended in His resurrection body into heaven. there is nothing even to imply that Jesus got rid of His resurrection body.
None of the verses that you quote above teach what you are saying it teaches. Only you and the Catholics can twist the Scripture to see things that are not there.
ONLY God forgives SIN.
JESUS forgives SIN.
Can you give me a verse in the New Testament that says only God can forgive sin? And don't quote the unbelieving Jews who were also calling Jesus a devil. Because Jesus is not a devil either so let's not quote the unbelieving Jews. Go ahead and give me a verse. I will wait.
Taken
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Sin IS Unbelief IN God. John 9:16
God forgives a mans Unbelief IN God and the One He SENT…WHEN that man comes INTO heartful belief and confesses the same.
Surely you must KNOW, men are conceived IN Sin, and naturally Born IN SIN….
They do not Know OF or Know God, thus are NOT born Believing IN God.
Are YOU going to FORGIVE men for their UN-belief IN God? IF so, by WHAT Authority?
Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Matt 9:6
Luke 5:21
Mark 2:7
He who is not WITH me is AGAINST me.
Matt 12:30
Luke 11:23
Taken
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Sin is unbelief in God and the One He Sent.
Yes ONLY God forgives SIN.
Jesus is God in the flesh.
Yes JESUS forgives SIN.
Mark 2:
[10] But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
stredaleve
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oh sorry but let me just ask you something as an animal lover do you store animal corpses on your freezer and then eat them? if that is the case are you sure you can call yourself an animal lover who cares and fight for the well being of animals?
Let me quote the verse you provided to show only God can forgive sins. Note it does not say...
Mark 2:
[10] But that ye may know that God hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
But rather it says...
Mark 2:
[10] But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
The reason you cannot give me a verse from the New Testament that says only God can forgive sins is because there are none.
Taken
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I am well aware of the actual Scripture(S) I quoted and referenced.
I am surprised YOU REWROTE SCRIPTURE AND ATTRIBUTED IT TO MARK!
It is Obvious you do NOT KNOW, WHO JESUS IS.
However, it is not my JOB to Convince you of Gods Truth.
Taken
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You might do well to get a toddler Bible to discover the answer to the questions of what is blasphemy and who only can forgive sins.
Mark.2
[7] Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
Luke.5
[21] And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?
I already spoke about this a few posts ago. You are quoting the unbelieving Jews for doctrine. They are the same people that said among themselves that Jesus was of the devil. Do you also believe Jesus is of the devil because the unbelieving Jews said so?
There is no verse in the New Testament that says only God can forgive sins. The only folks whoever said it was the unbelieving Jews who also said Jesus was of the devil. We cannot quote the unbelieving Jews for doctrine.
You might try to read the paper I posted before you respond so some points can be covered
Taken
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Your obsession with “unbelieving Jews” paints a FALSE NARRATIVE, that does not give rise for me to consider your demands.
The very JEWS who BELIEVED IN GOD, you are calling “UNBELIEVING” Jews. <—FALSE.
Many JEWS and GENTILES in ancient days and forward into THIS DAY, Do not BELIEVE IN …. JESUS being the Christ Messiah.
They LOSE out on PARTICULAR Gifts and Blessings OFFERED BY God to the WHOLE World.
Should THEY be alive during the Last Days of Tribulations Sent Down from Heaven….
* Per the SEVEN SEALS, THEY will experience Portions of the “WRATH OF THE LAMB” (for Rejecting Him.) Until such TIME JEWS are TAUGHT THE “TRUTH” of the Gospel of Christ Jesus, BY THEIR OWN, of Jewish Descent.
Your STANDING is “rejecting” Christ the Lord Jesus IS God IN the Flesh; God Purposed “IN HIMSELF”; God Sent to Earth; IN a Body God Prepared: God SAID, CALL HIM…”The Son of God”.
The SAME JESUS, WHO IS the Word of God, WHO IS the POWER of God, WHO IS the Wisdom of God…
God DID not DOES not REPRODUCE offsprings.
God HAS no Beginning.
BY Default an offspring HAS a Beginning.
Jesus CAME FORTH OUT FROM GOD.
Are you completely unaware that which COMES FORTH OUT FROM GOD…IS GOD?
His Breath, His Spirit, His Word, His Power, His Love, His Light, IS GOD…and WHILE He SENDS Himself FORTH, the SAME REMAINS IN Him.
People, Humans, Angels, Animals, Trees, Plants, DO NOT COME FORTH OUT FROM GOD.
You are the one with a dilemma which is solely accountable to you.
It is not considered biblical doctrine what the Pharisees said in the New Testament about Jesus. Not one thing that they ever said about Jesus was correct including that Jesus was of the devil. There is no doctrine from any credible New Testament writer that ever said only God can forgive sins. None.
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