JESUS CAME TO SAVE ISRAEL

[Doug]

Matthew 1:21 KJV - And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jesus came to save his people, Israel, from their sins, not the Gentiles.

The Gentiles were only to be saved through Israel:

[Exo 12:48 KJV] 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Jesus said he shed his blood for many not all:

Matthew 26:28 KJV - For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Hebrews states he shed his blood for the sins of Israel committed under the first testament:

Hebrews 9:15 KJV - And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Paul revealed all were justified by the cross both Jew and Gentile:

Colossians 1:20 KJV - And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Romans 3:22 KJV - Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Romans 3:30 KJV - Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Paul manifested the full meaning of Isaiah 49:6 (cited above) for the Gentiles in the gospel of the grace of God in this dispensation:

Acts 13:47 KJV - For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Jesus did not come to save Israel !

They who were worthy of Israel were Saved by Christ Jesus in fact, when Jesus went to Heaven.

Israel means the Servants of God !

Two people in the Bible are called Israel in fact and they were Jacob and Nathaniel ! why well because they were worthy in the eyes of God !

No one ever was born an Israel in fact ! They made the grade in fact ! That's the working of the Holy Spirit that proves such in fact ! It is not of a Carnal persons grasp, for they think it's a birth right, or some racist load of nonsense !
If it was so, of that every Jew was a Light in regards of God, the proof would be seen never to of failed ! but the Bible and History points out otherwise ! that the Jews were and still are a stifnecked people ! They think that they are someone ? that's the real issue ! but the fact is that God is the one who is the Glory ! and they have to get on board with such ! as it's not of themselves in fact ! But such can not see God in fact, for they reject Christ Jesus in fact ! for they have been lead astray by the Cursed within. like the ones who played games with Jesus in trying to undermine him 24/7 for such as they are who we also see in the Vineyard story ! all who came to them from God were set upon and killed Then God set his only begotten Son ! and see ? You will know them by their works.

 

[Davy]

Matthew 1:21 KJV - And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jesus came to save his people, Israel, from their sins, not the Gentiles.

You're making generalities again, a sign of men's POP traditions created by men who don't really understand much of their Bible.

The Book of Isaiah is the main Old Testament Book of Salvation. Salvation to the Gentiles are mentioned in it several times.

That means Christ's Salvation is open to ALL... peoples who believe. Saying it is only for the people of Israel is false.


How Is The New Name Israel Given Jacob Meant?

The meaning of the name 'Israel' is about those who overcome with God's help. It is a name directly tied to God's Salvation Plan through His Son Jesus Christ, Who died on the cross for the remission of sins of ALL WHO BELIEVE, regardless of birth.

God chose a specific 'seed' (Seed of the Woman of Genesis 3). Through that Seed of the Woman Christ would be born, and The Gospel would be given and preached first by that Seed. Doing that was a 'responsibility' for them in God's Plan, not a privilege or sign of the seed being better than all others. Because of that duty the Seed was to follow God and help work His Plan, and keep holy.

But not of the Seed of Israel obeyed. Only a small remnant obeyed, and kept His Word and would be chosen first to take The Gospel to the nations.


Abraham was first to receive The Gospel of Jesus Christ (Galatians 3). And it ALSO DID... involve God's Birthright.

Just as firstborn flesh sons received the birthright from their fathers, likewise God has a Birthright that He first gave through Abraham that INCLUDED The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

This is why Dispensationalism's argument that The Gospel was only first preached at Jesus' first coming, and not meant for the Gentiles until Acts 10, is just a Biblically illiterate idea, and scraps what Apostle Paul taught about Abraham and The Gospel in Galatians 3 and Romans 4.

The blessings God first gave to Abraham, were along with The Gospel given through Abraham also. Abraham believed God, and God counted Abraham's Faith as righteousness, and it is the SAME with ALL Those of FAITH, according to Apostle Paul (Gal.3).

Those Birthright Blessings from GOD were to follow the Seed. Abraham's son Isaac was next to inherit it. Then Isaac's son Jacob was next, and God gave Jacob the new name 'Israel' to REPRESENT That Birthright from GOD which included The Gospel of Jesus Christ. It was their responsibility to keep it throughout generations until the time that Jesus would come to fulfill it.

Thus the name ISRAEL is actually a symbolic name, given to represent Christ's Salvation.

It will eventually involve a literal Kingdom upon this earth over all... nations and peoples, but only when Jesus returns to sit over it upon David's throne, an earthly throne.

When God split the old nation of Israel into two separate kingdoms in Solomon's day, only the northern ten tribe kingdom was called "Israel".

The southern kingdom of the Jews at Jerusalem-Judea was known as the "kingdom of Judah" (See 1 Kings 11 thru 2 Kings 17). It involved only the 3 tribes of Judah, Benjamin, and Levi, known as Jews.

Like what happened to Joseph, being separated from his brethren in Egypt, to live and rule among Gentiles, even disguising himself as an Egyptian Gentile, the same symbolic event happened to the northern ten tribe "kingdom of Israel" when God literally removed the northern ten tribes out of the holy land first, captive to Assyria and the lands of the Medes, never to return.

The ten tribes while scattered lost their heritage as the larger part of the children of Israel, and they became as Gentiles, scattered among Gentiles. God gave them the full strength of Baal worship that they forgot Him for, and they settled in new lands westward from Assyria, through the Caucasus Mountains, into Asia Minor and Europe. And when it was time, the ten lost tribes scattered to those new lands would be given a New Covenant, and would become the western Christian nations of history. Much of this prophecy was written in the Book of Hosea. Apostle Paul in Romans 9 would even quote from the Book of Hosea in relation to The Gospel going to the Gentiles also, and joined with the believers of God's Israel.

David's throne, which ended with Zedekiah, king of Judah, during the days of Nebuchadnezzar, would be moved to the Christian west, and established with the seed of Israel of the ten lost tribes. The breach was healed when one of the king's daughters (i.e., "Pharaoh's daughter" of the Irish annals) appeared in ancient Ireland and was wed to one of the sons of Zarah from old Spain. Thus the kings and queens of Europe have the symbols of the lion of the tribe of Judah, and the unicorn that represented the tribe of Ephraim, Joseph's son that received God's Birthright per 1 Chronicles 5.

 

[Behold]

Hebrews states he shed his blood for the sins of Israel committed under the first testament:

If Jesus only came to save Israel then no Gentile could be saved.

Notice..

"Jesus came into the world.. to save SINNERS".......

"Sinners" = everyone.

 

[Doug]

You're making generalities again, a sign of men's POP traditions created by men who don't really understand much of their Bible.

The Book of Isaiah is the main Old Testament Book of Salvation. Salvation to the Gentiles are mentioned in it several times.

That means Christ's Salvation is open to ALL... peoples who believe. Saying it is only for the people of Israel is false.

I think you overlooked what I posted
I said Gentiles could be saved through Israel
Israel would be a light of salvation to Gentiles
All could be justified by the redemption in Christ

 

[Doug]

If Jesus only came to save Israel then no Gentile could be saved.

Notice..

"Jesus came into the world.. to save SINNERS".......

"Sinners" = everyone.

[Mat 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
The twelve were only sent to Israel ....only Israel was promised the Davidic kingdom on earth

[Mat 28:19 KJV] 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

They would however to go to the Gentile nations

Paul would reveal both Jew and Gentile could be saved freely

 

[Davy]

I think you overlooked what I posted
I said Gentiles could be saved through Israel
Israel would be a light of salvation to Gentiles
All could be justified by the redemption in Christ

I didn't overlook, you misinterpret the Isaiah Scripture. It is Christ... Who is referred to as being a Light unto the Gentiles, not the seed of Israel.

Isa 42:1-7
42 Behold My servant, whom I uphold; Mine elect, in whom My soul delighteth; I have put My spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.

3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.

4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

5 Thus saith God the LORD, He That created the heavens, and stretched them out; He That spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; He That giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
KJV

Might want to actually read more of the Chapter instead jumping around with a single verse some single-verse Sam preaches.

 

[Davy]

[Mat 10:5-7 KJV] 5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. 7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
The twelve were only sent to Israel ....only Israel was promised the Davidic kingdom on earth

[Mat 28:19 KJV] 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

They would however to go to the Gentile nations

Paul would reveal both Jew and Gentile could be saved freely

The reason Jesus said that Matthew 10 Scripture is because once The Gospel was rejected by the majority at Jerusalem, it was then ordained next to go to the scattered tribes of Israel, specifically those among the ten scattered tribes that were lost. God did not lose the ten lost tribes, the Jews did. God knows where they are, even today...

Amos 9:8-9
8 Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.

9 For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.
KJV

The "house of Israel" was specifically the name for the ten northern tribe "kingdom of Israel" after God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms (per 1 Kings 11 forward). Thus the above Jesus was pointing to the ten scattered tribes that were not present there in the holy land at His first coming. His disciples would go to the scattered ten tribes with The Gospel after Jesus' death and resurrection.

 

[Verily]

This verse here

Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Is being quoted by Paul here correct?

Acts 13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Similarly he says to the Jews he was speaking to after in Acts 28:28

Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

 

[Doug]

I didn't overlook, you misinterpret the Isaiah Scripture. It is Christ... Who is referred to as being a Light unto the Gentiles, not the seed of Israel.

[Isa 49:6 KJV] 6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

This is about Christ

[Isa 60:3 KJV] 3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

This is about Israel

 

[Davy]

This verse here

Isaiah 49:6 And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

Is being quoted by Paul here correct?

Acts 13:47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Similarly he says to the Jews he was speaking to after in Acts 28:28

Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.

Yes, Paul is quoting from Isaiah 42:6 and 49:6.

 

[Davy]

[Isa 60:3 KJV] 3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.

This is about Israel

Nope. That Isaiah 60 Chapter is still about Christ Jesus in His future Kingdom on earth, along with the New Jerusalem.

 

[Bob Estey]

Matthew 1:21 KJV - And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Jesus came to save his people, Israel, from their sins, not the Gentiles.

The Gentiles were only to be saved through Israel:

[Exo 12:48 KJV] 48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

Jesus said he shed his blood for many not all:

Matthew 26:28 KJV - For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Hebrews states he shed his blood for the sins of Israel committed under the first testament:

Hebrews 9:15 KJV - And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Paul revealed all were justified by the cross both Jew and Gentile:

Colossians 1:20 KJV - And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Romans 3:22 KJV - Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Romans 3:30 KJV - Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

Paul manifested the full meaning of Isaiah 49:6 (cited above) for the Gentiles in the gospel of the grace of God in this dispensation:

Acts 13:47 KJV - For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

By dying on the cross, I think Jesus saved us all.

 

[Davy]

By dying on the cross, I think Jesus saved us all.

Only those who believe on Him will be saved. God will not be mocked.