amigo de christo
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and that is why we need to evangelize to them too . THEY DO NOT KNOW GOD ,
only the few of them who BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST know GOD .
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only the few of them who BELIEVE IN JESUS THE CHRIST know GOD .
tailgator
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You say one beast of many being destroyed is global destruction.
It's not
The other beasts continue to live.
Daniel 7:12
(The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)
It's just one kingdom that is destroyed at Christs coming and his kingdom is given to the resurected saints.The rest of the beasts continue for another 1000 years.
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tailgator
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You've got the right idea for that is what Jesus commanded.
Now ,its them who evangelize to the beasts kingdom that are killed for their witness of Jesus by the beast.
The beast doesn't want the gospel spread in his kingdom.
Mathew 10
22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
Spiritual Israelite
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That's referring to historical kingdoms beginning with ancient Babylon, not to future kingdoms that all exist at the same time. Verse 12 is in parentheses because it's just a parenthetical addition to explain what had happened to the previous historical kingdoms after the fourth beast, the Roman empire, came into power.
What do I need to do to get you to actually address what is taught in the following passages? Do you have them in your Bible? Do you just ignore them? Are you afraid to address them? What's going on here?
1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
Explain how anyone can escape the fire that will come down on the entire earth when Jesus returns when Paul made it clear that those in spiritual darkness "shall not escape"? Believers will be changed and have immortal bodies at that point, so that's how we'll escape. No one else will. So, there will be no mortals on the earth at this point to populate an imaginary thousand year earthly kingdom.
tailgator
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The word translated to earth in the New testament is ghay.It means dirt,soil,ground.This world was not called earth and the kingdom which is consumed is not the entire world.It is a kingdom being shared by 11 countries .These countries have leaders refered to as kings.One of the 11 is very little and that little country is the one who persecutes the saints during the tribulation.After the beast is consumed , that kingdom is given the the saints which is Abrahams seed and the resurected saints reign with Christ in that kingdom.After 1000 years the rest of the world which was not destroyed at Christs coming.come against Abrahams seed and fire comes down from heaven and destroys those nations.
After this ,there is a new heaven and new earth.
tailgator
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PS
Ten of those countries are predominately Muslim.
The little country is Jewish.
Have you never considered who lives within the boundaries of the promised land?
The land promised to the seed of Abraham.
The land promised to the saints in Daniel 7 and revelation 20.
No,Rome is not promised to those saints.
Dan Clarkston
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Others demolished previous temples... and so they are working on building a new one.
And when they do, and are deceived in to making covenant with the anti-christ.... the man of sin will sit in that temple and declare to the entire world that he is god.... and the news media will carry it live and liberals will rejoice thinking they have found religion
They'll love this perceived messiah (the world will think the anti-christ is actually god), especially because he support murdering innocent babies and he's all about sexual perversion... the anti-christ will probably have a pride flag behind him in his press conference claiming he is God.
They could easily build a temple like ancient Israel used out in the wilderness which is basically a tent
They already have all the furniture for the interior... a new temple could be setup pretty quick if they used the traveling version
Others as in God Himself.
You've been shown previously that the 2 Thessalonians 2:4 temple is the spiritual temple of the believer in Christ, collectively His Church.
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tailgator
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The man of sin has already been standing n the midst of the church saying he is "the chosen one".
He has also said he is "the only one who can keep Israel safe",and he has stated he will save Israel.
It won't be long before he makes an agreement with Israel to be its protector.
Spiritual Israelite
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You didn't address anything I said in my post. It's hopeless to try to have a discussion with you. You won't address anything anyone else says. You're talking to yourself.
Dan Clarkston
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Yeah, that's when you were trying to put some false doctrine on me... and I passed.
God's Word clearly tells us the anti-christ is going to be sitting in a temple proclaiming to be God.
It is done for deception as the temple will be presented to the world as being of God and the anti-christ will sit in it proclaiming to be God... so 2 Thessalonians 2:4 still stands as being accurate regardless of whether you believe God's Word or not.
An example is the catholic cult proclaiming they are "the church" when they are not.... they will be judged by the Lord for their lies just like the pharisees and sadducees were judged by God for lying to the people while claiming to be speaking in behalf of the Lord.
Hang in their bud... maybe you'll get it one of these days.
We know Trump isn't the anti-chrsit because when the anti-christ actually comes along the majority of the world will gladly follow him.... gigantic portions of the world's population hates and despises Trump and wouldn't follow him for any reason
So, looks like you are going to have to find another candidate to be the anti-christ
tailgator
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No,the Jews who's names are not written, followed the beast from all nations,tongues and peoples.That has been a fulfillment in progress since 1948.
Trump is a despicable person.Not many people like a despicable person but Trumps followers are going against the norm.
Daniel 11:31
The next to come to power will be a despicable man who is not in line for royal succession. He will slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue.
I'm expecting Trump to give the beast(Israel)his armed forces for protection soon .perhaps he may pull a lot out of Germany and send them south.
tailgator
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I suppose Make America great again could be considered some kind of flattery.
Daniel 11:31
The next to come to power will be a despicable man who is not in line for royal succession. He will slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue.
Have I ever showed you how I knew Trump would move the US embassy to Jerusalem years before he did it?
Paul still used "naos" regardless of whether you believe God's Word or not.
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tailgator
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Speaking of Trump protecting Israel,I just read in the news where some Israelites believe God sent Trump to save them.
In a video of the meeting, the former hostages are heard telling Trump they believe he was “sent by God” to save them – and those still being held by Hamas, a U.S.-designated terrorist group, somewhere in Gaza.
'Hell to pay': Trump issues 'last warning' to Hamas. Here is what may be next for Israel and Gaza
Trump warned Hamas 'it is OVER for you' if it doesn't release the remaining hostages. The US is also talking directly to Hamas. What's next after the ultimatum?
www.usatoday.com
That above Rev.21:22 event of course IS FOR THE FUTURE TIME OF GOD'S NEW HEAVENS AND A NEW EARTH. We today have NOT reached that time yet, as there will even be a "thousand years" reign by Lord Jesus Christ and His elect starting on the day of His future 2nd coming. Jesus will build the future Millennium "sanctuary" of Ezekiel 47, with which God's River of the Waters of Life, and Tree of Life will manifest. Read your Bible, and quit playing religion.
You are only showing your Biblical illiteracy about the events for the end of this world.
When the "abomination of desolation" IDOL is setup in a JEWISH STONE TEMPLE IN JERUSALEM... which Lord Jesus warned the Church about in Matthew 24 and Mark 13, that will be a time when Satan's future beast kingdom of ten horns, seven heads, and ten crowns will be established over ALL NATIONS OF THIS WORLD. And that means ONLY HIS BEAST KINGDOM will CONTROL ALL MILITARIES.
So can the beast kingdom continue to exist if its militaries fight themselves? Absolutely not, which is why the following prophecy for that time is revealed about that...
Rev 13:4
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
KJV
That future time of 3rd temple built by DECEIVED JEWS in Jerusalem at the 'end' of this world under Satan's coming one-world beast kingdom over ALL nations is also a prophecy that Lord Jesus Christ mentioned in His Olivet discourse of Matthew 24:6...
Matt 24:6
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
KJV
Per also the Daniel 8 prophecy about the coming "king of fierce countenance", i.e., Satan as the final Antichrist, on earth, it says that coming false one, "... by peace shall destroy many", and "... through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; ...". In the 1 Thessalonians 5 Scripture, Apostle Paul said the deceived at the 'end' will be saying, "Peace and safety".
Thus it will be like Lord Jesus Christ said above, as long as we hear of wars and rumors of war, the END IS NOT YET. That will be because that END will be a time of WORLD PEACE under Satan as the final Antichrist, beast king of Rev.17, seated at JERUSALEM.
tailgator
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So you believe everyone in judea standing on their rooftops and in the fields will see an idol through the walls of a building?
They got xray eyes?
PS
When the United states armed forces set up the abomination that causes Jerusalem desolation,there won't be a beast left in Jerusalem .It will be desolate.
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