MATTHEW 8:12 CAST OUT

[Doug]

Matthew 8:11 And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

[Luke 13:29 KJV] 29 And they shall come from the east, and [from] the west, and from the north, and [from] the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

At the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ, the scattered Jews will be returned to their promised land. They will be, along with the old testament saints, given the promised kingdom on earth.

Matthew 8:12 But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Not all of Israel will enter the kingdom. They are saved unto eternal life by believing on Jesus, that he is the Son of God, their Messiah (John 20:31); but to enter the kingdom, they have to be righteous, by keeping the commandments, and enduring to the end. Matthew 5:20 Matthew 7:21 Mark 13:13

If they fail to endure to the end (Matthew 10:22), they will be cast out into outer darkness. This is not to say they are cast into hell. Those that do not receive Jesus will be cast into hell; but these have believed on Jesus, they are the children of the kingdom that have not done what was required of them in order to inherit that kingdom. Luke 13:28

In Matthew 13:42 below those cast into hell are described as wailing.

Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

In Matthew 24:51 below those cast into outer darkness are described as weeping. Outer darkness is not hell, but rather, loss of inheritance in the kingdom. Scripture is very precise and every word is deliberately selected.

[Matthew 24:51 KJV] 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint [him] his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Not all of Israel will enter the kingdom. They are saved unto eternal life by believing on Jesus, that he is the Son of God, their Messiah (John 20:31); but to enter the kingdom, they have to be righteous, by keeping the commandments, and enduring to the end. Matthew 5:20 Matthew 7:21 Mark 13:13

Sorry, but if you are a saved Jew in the NT, you are part of the body of Christ where there is no Jew or Gentile. OT saints and trib saints will enter the kingdom. Our righteousness just as theirs is imputed to us by god and not by works.

Works shgow we are righteous, not to make us righteous.

 

[Doug]

Sorry, but if you are a saved Jew in the NT, you are part of the body of Christ where there is no Jew or Gentile. OT saints and trib saints will enter the kingdom. Our righteousness just as theirs is imputed to us by god and not by works.

Works shgow we are righteous, not to make us righteous.

Believing Jews will enter the kingdom on earth.......they are not of the body of Christ.......Jews who believe the gospel preached by Pau; are in the body of Christ

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Believing Jews will enter the kingdom on earth.......they are not of the body of Christ.......Jews who believe the gospel preached by Pau; are in the body of Christ

Any Jew who trusts in the death and resurrection of Jesus for their sins is part of the body of Christ. Jews who died before pentecost thaty were saved go into teh kingdom as well as Jews after the rapture.

Are you a follower of John Hagee?

 

[Doug]

Any Jew who trusts in the death and resurrection of Jesus for their sins is part of the body of Christ. Jews who died before pentecost thaty were saved go into teh kingdom as well as Jews after the rapture.

Are you a follower of John Hagee?

I agree
Hagee no I am not

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I agree
Hagee no I am not

Well I am glad, for you seem to espouse several of his heretical concepts about two gospels.

 

[Doug]

Well I am glad, for you seem to espouse several of his heretical concepts about two gospels.

There is more than one gospel but I dont know what Hagee says

Thanks for a respectful exchange always

 

[Ronald Nolette]

There is more than one gospel but I dont know what Hagee says

Thanks for a respectful exchange always

But only one gospel that saves.

 

[Behold]

But only one gospel that saves.

There are 2 gospels....... one for the "time of The Gentiles" and one that requires the "enduring to the end".

The Main difference, is that in the "time of the Gentiles"..... the way to God, is entirely by Grace..... "Grace through faith".......so, that is not the Gospel found in the Trib-Grt Trib.
This is why you find No Christian in the Trib who is Preaching Paul's Gospel, and that is because all the Chrisitans, are not in the Trib.
They have all been Raptured.

 

[Doug]

But only one gospel that saves.

Yes
only the gospel Paul preaches to us today

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yes
only the gospel Paul preaches to us today

Which is the same gospel the other 11 preached after Pentecost.

 

[Doug]

Which is the same gospel the other 11 preached after Pentecost.

Please give me verses

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Please give me verses

Why don't you show them preaching another gospel.

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

If they were preaching another gospel, Paul had some powerful words to say on that.

 

[Doug]

Why don't you show them preaching another gospel.

[Act 2:23 KJV] 23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

Here Peter is not preaching the cross but he is convicting Israel for his crucifixion

[Act 2:30 KJV] 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Peter was not preaching that Christ was raised for our justification but he was raised to sit on David's throne in the kingdom on earth

[Act 2:37-38 KJV] 37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter did not say to believe Christ died for their sins, was buried, and rose again but rather repent and be baptized in the name of Christ for remission of sins

[Act 3:14 KJV] 14 But ye denied the Holy One and the Just, and desired a murderer to be granted unto you;

Once again convicting Israel of Christ's death

[Act 3:16 KJV] 16 And his name through faith in his name hath made this man strong, whom ye see and know: yea, the faith which is by him hath given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.

Peter was preaching salvation by believing on the name of Christ, that he was the Son of God, the Christ

[Act 10:43 KJV] 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.

Again faith in his name

[Jhn 20:31 KJV] 31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Again faith in his name

 

[Doug]

If they were preaching another gospel, Paul had some powerful words to say on that.

Paul and Peter acknowledged they had separate valid apostleship and preached different gospels in Galatians 2:7-8
Paul ministered to Peter's disciples but did not give them his gospel.........[Rom 15:20 KJV] 20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation: