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By the Bible’s standard, yes, they do.

They may not wear robes or go by that name anymore, but the spirit of the Pharisees is alive and active today. If you want to see an example, click here. In Jesus’ time, the Pharisees were the religious elite, outwardly righteous, but inwardly corrupt. They claimed to follow God, but twisted His Word, exalted their own traditions, and rejected truth when it confronted them. That same pattern can be seen today in churches, ministries, denominations, and individuals who elevate man-made systems over Scripture, and parade their religion while denying its power.

Jesus said, “Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition” (Mark 7:9). Today, we see the same thing, people defending their creeds, councils, or denominational systems as if they were Scripture itself. But God doesn’t honor man’s additions. If it doesn’t come from the Bible, it’s not binding on anyone.

Modern Pharisees love outward religion. Jesus said, “This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me” (Matthew 15:8). That describes anyone who talks the talk, going to church, quoting verses, wearing the label, but doesn’t actually walk with God. You can sing hymns, wear a cross, and still be far from Christ.

Another mark of a Pharisee is legalism, making up burdens God never commanded. Jesus said, “They bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders” (Matthew 23:4). Today, that looks like inventing rules about dress, diets, music styles, or behavior that are not found in Scripture, then judging others who don’t follow them.

Pharisees also love power and titles. Jesus said, “They love... to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi” (Matthew 23:6–7). Today, many love to be called “Reverend,” “Father,” “Apostle,” or “Prophet,” as if their title gives them spiritual superiority. But Jesus taught that true greatness is found in humble service, not religious status.

And maybe the clearest sign of a Pharisee is resistance to correction. Stephen told the religious leaders, “Ye do always resist the Holy Ghost, as your fathers did, so do ye” (Acts 7:51). That spirit still lives in those who shut their ears to Scripture when it exposes their tradition, pride, or false doctrine.

Where do you see Pharisees today? In religious systems that put tradition over truth, in legalistic groups that add unbiblical standards, in prosperity preachers who twist the gospel to get rich (2 Peter 2:3), in false teachers who demand blind loyalty, and in cultural Christians who have a form of godliness but no real power (2 Timothy 3:5).

So how do you avoid becoming one? Stick to the Bible alone. “Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith” (2 Corinthians 13:5). Let the Word of God correct you, even when it hurts. Follow Jesus, not men. And remember, “God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble” (James 4:6).

The Pharisees didn’t disappear; they just changed clothes. And the only way to keep from joining their ranks is to humble yourself before the authority of God’s Word, not man’s religion.

A Pharisee is someone who claims to follow God but replaces His Word with man-made rules, traditions, and self-righteousness. Outwardly, they appear holy, but inwardly, they are proud, hypocritical, and resistant to correction. Jesus warned about them often because they twisted Scripture, elevated themselves, and led others away from the truth (Matthew 23:13, Mark 7:9). Pharisees are not just a group from history; their spirit still lives in anyone who puts religion above repentance and tradition above truth.
 

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The question posed in the Thread topic is

"Do Pharisees Still Exist Today?"

and the answer is simply yes.

Just look at what is being posted on this forum by the members. What you will read can only confirm the truth that Pharisees Still Exist Today.
 
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25 Modern Pharisee Markers

1.
“The Body of Christ is not Israel.”
Teaches that the true Israel is a strip of dirt founded by the UN, not those born again in Christ. Flat out contradicts Romans 9, Galatians 3, and Ephesians 2 as well as the beliefs of every Apostle and Church Father for the last 2000 years.

2. Scofield Study Bible Defender.
Promotes the footnotes of a corrupt, disbarred lawyer over the words of Christ and the Apostles. Thinks Scofield’s Zionist heresy is “sound doctrine.”

3. Dual-Covenant Theology.
Believes Jews can be saved without Christ because of their ethnicity. That’s not Christianity—it’s Talmudic supremacy in church drag.

4. Preaches a Future Third Temple.
Wants to rebuild what God destroyed. Thinks God is pleased with animal blood instead of Christ’s finished work. Hebrews 10 annihilates this.

5. Teaches “Replacement Theology” is heresy.
Calls it heresy to believe the Church is the fulfillment of Israel, despite Paul saying exactly that (Romans 9–11, Galatians 6:16).

6. Defends Ethnic Israel’s Right to the Land “Forever.”
Ignores that the land covenant was conditional (Deut 28) and fulfilled in Christ. Teaches a carnal land over a spiritual kingdom.

7. Treats the cursed, demonic Star of Remphan as if it were “David’s.”
They parade the six-triangle, six-pointed, six-sided hexagram idol as a sacred emblem, even though Scripture never once calls it the “Star of David.” In fact, the only star mentioned in the Bible is a symbol of rebellion — the Star of Remphan, cursed by God in Amos 5:26 and condemned again in Acts 7:43.
It’s not holy. It’s not biblical.
It’s a modern-day golden calf — a blasphemous banner of Babylon dressed in religious cosplay.

8. Thinks Jesus Came Only for the Jews (at First).
Teaches that Jesus’ Gospel was only for Jews pre-crucifixion, and that the Church was a Plan B. Blasphemes the eternal plan of God (Eph. 3:6–11).

9. Says “The Church Age” Will End When the Jews Get the Kingdom.
A chopped-up timeline of lies: gives Jews the Millennium, Gentiles the Church, and Christ nothing but confusion.

10. Insists “Israel” Must Mean the Modern State.
Even when Romans 9:6 says clearly, “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel.”

11. Defends a 7-Year Tribulation Created by Jesuits and Scofield.
Doesn’t realize Daniel 9:27 was fulfilled by Christ. Inserts the Antichrist where Jesus should be.

12. Promotes the Pre-Trib Rapture.
Teaches escape instead of endurance. Replaces the Blessed Hope with escapist fiction.

13. Rejects Paul as a True Apostle (or Minimizes Him).
Just like ancient Pharisees, modern ones hate Paul—unless he’s twisted to support Zionism.

14. Divides Scripture into "Jewish" and "Christian" Sections.
Teaches the red letters are “for Israel,” but Paul's letters are for the Church. A cafeteria gospel with compartments.

15. Says “Don’t Spiritualize the Bible.”
Except Jesus, Paul, Peter, and John spiritualized nearly everything.

16. Teaches a Literal Millennium Kingdom in Old Jerusalem.
Wants Jesus to rule from a throne in a modern-day war zone, instead of seeing His Kingdom is already here in His people.

17. Wants Christians to “Bless Israel” (Gen 12:3) — but they don’t even know who Israel is.
They quote Genesis like a political slogan, yet ignore that Christ alone is the Seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:16) — and those who are in Him are the true heirs of the promise.
According to the Gospel, the Body of Christ is Israel (Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8, Ephesians 2:11–22).
Not a bloodline. Not a flag. Not a modern state founded in 1948.
We bless Israel when we preach Christ — not when we fund apartheid, ignore the Gospel, and exalt unbelief.
Every apostle taught this. Every Church Father affirmed it.
There is no biblical covenant outside of Jesus.

18. Thinks National Israel Is the Fig Tree of Matthew 24.
Misreads the parable entirely. The fig tree was cursed by Jesus, not exalted.

19. Fears the Antichrist More Than They Trust Christ.
Obsess over prophecy charts but can’t preach the Gospel clearly.

20. Equates Political Zionism with God’s Will.
Believes the Rothschild-funded state of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy. History calls it colonialism. Scripture calls it deception.

21. Teaches “Once Saved Always Saved” with No Fruit.
Guarantees salvation based on a prayer instead of perseverance and evidence of new birth.

22. Takes Tithes for a Temple that Doesn’t Exist.
Guilts people into Old Covenant giving but rejects Old Covenant holiness.

23. Mocks Those Who Say “We Are Israel.”
Accuses others of arrogance for simply believing the Bible.

24. Denies the New Covenant Is for the Church.
Says the New Covenant is only “for the Jews,” even though Jesus says, “This is the new covenant in My blood.”

25. Treats the Apostles as Less Authoritative Than Modern Prophecy Teachers.
Trusts YouTube preachers with 3D rapture charts more than Peter, Paul, and Jesus.

Do Pharisees still exist today?
Yes.
They wear suits instead of robes.
They use Scofield footnotes instead of Torah scrolls.
They preach geopolitical Zionism instead of the Gospel of Christ.

And just like their spiritual ancestors, they shut the door of the Kingdom in men’s faces (Matthew 23:13) while calling themselves “watchmen.”

Only one Body. One Israel. One Kingdom.
In Christ alone.

“If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29
 
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Oh I almost forgot #26..

26. They preach Satanic, Zionist blasphemy from the pit of hell — then call you a Pharisee for quoting the Word of God.
They push Scofield’s two-covenant poison, bow to a Christ-rejecting state as if it’s holy, and butcher prophecy into a schizophrenic end-times maze where Jesus plays second fiddle to geopolitics. And when you confront them with the Bible? They clutch their pearls and cry legalist!

Meanwhile, not one Apostle — not Paul, not Peter, not John — and not a single early Church Father would back their doctrine.
But do they care? No.
They might as well scream: “Forget Paul. Forget Peter. Forget 2,000 years of the Church — I’ve got Scofield’s footnotes from 1909 and my favorite YouTube pastor.
They’ve traded the Gospel of Christ for a disfigured, double-mouthed beast no Apostle would even recognize — and still dare to call you the "heretic".
That’s not just projection. That’s satanic arrogance and gaslighting in a pulpit mask.
 

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By the Bible’s standard, yes, they do.

They may not wear robes or go by that name anymore, but the spirit of the Pharisees is alive and active today. If you want to see an example, click here. In Jesus’ time, the Pharisees were the religious elite, outwardly righteous, but inwardly corrupt. They claimed to follow God, but twisted His Word, exalted their own traditions, and rejected truth when it confronted them. That same pattern can be seen today in churches, ministries, denominations, and individuals who elevate man-made systems over Scripture, and parade their religion while denying its power.

Jesus said, “Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition” (Mark 7:9). Today, we see the same thing, people defending their creeds, councils, or denominational systems as if they were Scripture itself. But God doesn’t honor man’s additions. If it doesn’t come from the Bible, it’s not binding on anyone.

Modern Pharisees love outward religion. Jesus said, “This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me” (Matthew 15:8). That describes anyone who talks the talk, going to church, quoting verses, wearing the label, but doesn’t actually walk with God. You can sing hymns, wear a cross, and still be far from Christ.

Another mark of a Pharisee is legalism, making up burdens God never commanded. Jesus said, “They bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders” (Matthew 23:4). Today, that looks like inventing rules about dress, diets, music styles, or behavior that are not found in Scripture, then judging others who don’t follow them.

Pharisees also love power and titles. Jesus said, “They love... to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi” (Matthew 23:6–7). Today, many love to be called “Reverend,” “Father,” “Apostle,” or “Prophet,” as if their title gives them spiritual superiority. But Jesus taught that true greatness is found in humble service, not religious status.

And maybe the clearest sign of a Pharisee is resistance to correction. Stephen told the religious leaders, “Ye do always resist the Holy Ghost, as your fathers did, so do ye” (Acts 7:51). That spirit still lives in those who shut their ears to Scripture when it exposes their tradition, pride, or false doctrine.

Where do you see Pharisees today? In religious systems that put tradition over truth, in legalistic groups that add unbiblical standards, in prosperity preachers who twist the gospel to get rich (2 Peter 2:3), in false teachers who demand blind loyalty, and in cultural Christians who have a form of godliness but no real power (2 Timothy 3:5).

So how do you avoid becoming one? Stick to the Bible alone. “Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith” (2 Corinthians 13:5). Let the Word of God correct you, even when it hurts. Follow Jesus, not men. And remember, “God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble” (James 4:6).

The Pharisees didn’t disappear; they just changed clothes. And the only way to keep from joining their ranks is to humble yourself before the authority of God’s Word, not man’s religion.

A Pharisee is someone who claims to follow God but replaces His Word with man-made rules, traditions, and self-righteousness. Outwardly, they appear holy, but inwardly, they are proud, hypocritical, and resistant to correction. Jesus warned about them often because they twisted Scripture, elevated themselves, and led others away from the truth (Matthew 23:13, Mark 7:9). Pharisees are not just a group from history; their spirit still lives in anyone who puts religion above repentance and tradition above truth.
To my knowledge the Jewish people today believe they represent the Pharisee of today...as in sitting on the seat of Moses as Jesus did mention. Christ's followers were told to stay there with this to me...but be believers in the Messiah and follow Him.

Matthew 23:2 (KJV) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Matthew 23:3 (KJV) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
 

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25 Modern Pharisee Markers

1.
“The Body of Christ is not Israel.”
Teaches that the true Israel is a strip of dirt founded by the UN, not those born again in Christ. Flat out contradicts Romans 9, Galatians 3, and Ephesians 2 as well as the beliefs of every Apostle and Church Father for the last 2000 years.

2. Scofield Study Bible Defender.
Promotes the footnotes of a corrupt, disbarred lawyer over the words of Christ and the Apostles. Thinks Scofield’s Zionist heresy is “sound doctrine.”

3. Dual-Covenant Theology.
Believes Jews can be saved without Christ because of their ethnicity. That’s not Christianity—it’s Talmudic supremacy in church drag.

4. Preaches a Future Third Temple.
Wants to rebuild what God destroyed. Thinks God is pleased with animal blood instead of Christ’s finished work. Hebrews 10 annihilates this.

5. Teaches “Replacement Theology” is heresy.
Calls it heresy to believe the Church is the fulfillment of Israel, despite Paul saying exactly that (Romans 9–11, Galatians 6:16).

6. Defends Ethnic Israel’s Right to the Land “Forever.”
Ignores that the land covenant was conditional (Deut 28) and fulfilled in Christ. Teaches a carnal land over a spiritual kingdom.

7. Treats the cursed, demonic Star of Remphan as if it were “David’s.”
They parade the six-triangle, six-pointed, six-sided hexagram idol as a sacred emblem, even though Scripture never once calls it the “Star of David.” In fact, the only star mentioned in the Bible is a symbol of rebellion — the Star of Remphan, cursed by God in Amos 5:26 and condemned again in Acts 7:43.
It’s not holy. It’s not biblical.
It’s a modern-day golden calf — a blasphemous banner of Babylon dressed in religious cosplay.

8. Thinks Jesus Came Only for the Jews (at First).
Teaches that Jesus’ Gospel was only for Jews pre-crucifixion, and that the Church was a Plan B. Blasphemes the eternal plan of God (Eph. 3:6–11).

9. Says “The Church Age” Will End When the Jews Get the Kingdom.
A chopped-up timeline of lies: gives Jews the Millennium, Gentiles the Church, and Christ nothing but confusion.

10. Insists “Israel” Must Mean the Modern State.
Even when Romans 9:6 says clearly, “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel.”

11. Defends a 7-Year Tribulation Created by Jesuits and Scofield.
Doesn’t realize Daniel 9:27 was fulfilled by Christ. Inserts the Antichrist where Jesus should be.

12. Promotes the Pre-Trib Rapture.
Teaches escape instead of endurance. Replaces the Blessed Hope with escapist fiction.

13. Rejects Paul as a True Apostle (or Minimizes Him).
Just like ancient Pharisees, modern ones hate Paul—unless he’s twisted to support Zionism.

14. Divides Scripture into "Jewish" and "Christian" Sections.
Teaches the red letters are “for Israel,” but Paul's letters are for the Church. A cafeteria gospel with compartments.

15. Says “Don’t Spiritualize the Bible.”
Except Jesus, Paul, Peter, and John spiritualized nearly everything.

16. Teaches a Literal Millennium Kingdom in Old Jerusalem.
Wants Jesus to rule from a throne in a modern-day war zone, instead of seeing His Kingdom is already here in His people.

17. Wants Christians to “Bless Israel” (Gen 12:3) — but they don’t even know who Israel is.
They quote Genesis like a political slogan, yet ignore that Christ alone is the Seed of Abraham (Galatians 3:16) — and those who are in Him are the true heirs of the promise.
According to the Gospel, the Body of Christ is Israel (Galatians 3:29, Romans 9:6–8, Ephesians 2:11–22).
Not a bloodline. Not a flag. Not a modern state founded in 1948.
We bless Israel when we preach Christ — not when we fund apartheid, ignore the Gospel, and exalt unbelief.
Every apostle taught this. Every Church Father affirmed it.
There is no biblical covenant outside of Jesus.

18. Thinks National Israel Is the Fig Tree of Matthew 24.
Misreads the parable entirely. The fig tree was cursed by Jesus, not exalted.

19. Fears the Antichrist More Than They Trust Christ.
Obsess over prophecy charts but can’t preach the Gospel clearly.

20. Equates Political Zionism with God’s Will.
Believes the Rothschild-funded state of Israel is a fulfillment of prophecy. History calls it colonialism. Scripture calls it deception.

21. Teaches “Once Saved Always Saved” with No Fruit.
Guarantees salvation based on a prayer instead of perseverance and evidence of new birth.

22. Takes Tithes for a Temple that Doesn’t Exist.
Guilts people into Old Covenant giving but rejects Old Covenant holiness.

23. Mocks Those Who Say “We Are Israel.”
Accuses others of arrogance for simply believing the Bible.

24. Denies the New Covenant Is for the Church.
Says the New Covenant is only “for the Jews,” even though Jesus says, “This is the new covenant in My blood.”

25. Treats the Apostles as Less Authoritative Than Modern Prophecy Teachers.
Trusts YouTube preachers with 3D rapture charts more than Peter, Paul, and Jesus.

Do Pharisees still exist today?
Yes.
They wear suits instead of robes.
They use Scofield footnotes instead of Torah scrolls.
They preach geopolitical Zionism instead of the Gospel of Christ.

And just like their spiritual ancestors, they shut the door of the Kingdom in men’s faces (Matthew 23:13) while calling themselves “watchmen.”

Only one Body. One Israel. One Kingdom.
In Christ alone.

“If ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29
You have quite the list...I have seen your posts before and it is hard to know what you do believe. Your name says the Gospel of Christ, so could you tell me what books are the Gospel to you?
 

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To my knowledge the Jewish people today believe they represent the Pharisee of today...as in sitting on the seat of Moses as Jesus did mention. Christ's followers were told to stay there with this to me...but be believers in the Messiah and follow Him.

Matthew 23:2 (KJV) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Matthew 23:3 (KJV) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Yes, many Jews today follow Pharisaic tradition and claim continuity with Moses. But Jesus fulfilled the Law, exposed their hypocrisy, and established a better covenant in His blood. We do not follow the seat of Moses; we follow the voice of Christ. Anyone still clinging to Moses while rejecting Jesus is still in unbelief.

John 5:46–47 – “For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?”
 
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You have quite the list...I have seen your posts before and it is hard to know what you do believe. Your name says the Gospel of Christ, so could you tell me what books are the Gospel to you?


What books are the Gospel to me?
The entire Bible — rightly understood through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The Gospel is woven from Genesis to Revelation, fulfilled in Christ alone. It’s not divided into compartments, timelines, or footnote-based theology.

Every Apostle — Peter, Paul, John — preached the same Gospel: that Christ is the Seed, the Kingdom is spiritual, and the true Israel is the Body of Christ.

I don’t divide Scripture. I don’t chop the Word of God into dispensations. I don’t filter Jesus through Scofield.

So if you’re asking which books are “the Gospel,” my answer is this:
All of it — but fulfilled, interpreted, and completed in Christ.

And if you’re asking because you're trying to trap me with a false dichotomy between Paul and the rest — don't.
The Spirit of God speaks with one voice.

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” (Gal. 3:29)
That’s not “just Paul.”
That’s the Word of God. And it exposes the entire Zionist lie.
 
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There is only one gospel, but the gospel can be distorted and perverted by false teachers.

Philippians 1
27 Only let your conduct be worthy of the gospel of Christ, so that whether I come and see you or am absent, I may hear of your affairs, that you stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel, 28 and not in any way terrified by your adversaries, which is to them a proof of perdition, but [f]to you of salvation, and that from God. 29 For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake, 30 having the same conflict which you saw in me and now hear is in me.

Galatians 1

Only One Gospel​

6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert[a] the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be [b]accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? For if I still pleased men, I would not be a bondservant of Christ.


Call to Apostleship​

11 But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ.

13 For you have heard of my former conduct in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it. 14 And I advanced in Judaism beyond many of my contemporaries in my own nation, being more exceedingly zealous for the traditions of my fathers.

15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb and called me through His grace, 16 to reveal His Son in me, that I might preach Him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood, 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me; but I went to Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.

Contacts at Jerusalem​

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see [c]Peter, and remained with him fifteen days. 19 But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother. 20 (Now concerning the things which I write to you, indeed, before God, I do not lie.)

21 Afterward I went into the regions of Syria and Cilicia. 22 And I was unknown by face to the churches of Judea which were in Christ. 23 But they were hearing only, “He who formerly persecuted us now preaches the faith which he once tried to destroy.” 24 And they glorified God in me.

 
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To my knowledge the Jewish people today believe they represent the Pharisee of today...as in sitting on the seat of Moses as Jesus did mention. Christ's followers were told to stay there with this to me...but be believers in the Messiah and follow Him.

Matthew 23:2 (KJV) Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Matthew 23:3 (KJV) All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Jesus did say in Matthew 23 that the Pharisees sat in Moses’ seat, but that was before the cross, before the New Covenant was established. He wasn’t telling His followers to stay under their authority forever. In fact, He warned them not to follow their example because they were hypocrites. After Jesus rose from the dead, all authority was given to Him (Matthew 28:18), and we now follow Him, not any group that rejects Him.

Saying Christians should still obey the Pharisees or their modern version today isn’t biblical. Paul, who was once a Pharisee, left all that behind when he came to know Christ (Philippians 3:5–8). He didn’t stay connected to that system, he walked away from it to follow the truth.

Jesus never told His followers to be under Pharisees and believe in Him at the same time. That’s not how it works. Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me” (John 10:27). We follow Jesus alone now.

Just wanted to clarify that, because the Bible’s message is clear, once you follow Christ, you don’t go back to what He fulfilled.
 
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And there is also this, that the Shepherd knows His sheep, and His sheep know their shepherd.
Christ's sheep will not follow the voice of a stranger; they will flee from that, and return to the Shepherd.

1 Peter 2:24-25
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24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose [a]stripes you were healed. 25 For you were like sheep going astray, but have now returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls.

 

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John 10 is good to read about our relationship with the Son, and His relationship with us who are His sheep

Jesus the True Shepherd​

1 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.

Jesus the Good Shepherd​

7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came [a]before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. 10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a [b]hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own. 15 As the Father knows Me, even so I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep. 16 And other sheep I have which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd.

17 “Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again. 18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This command I have received from My Father.”

19 Therefore there was a division again among the Jews because of these sayings. 20 And many of them said, “He has a demon and is [c]mad. Why do you listen to Him?”

21 Others said, “These are not the words of one who has a demon. Can a demon open the eyes of the blind?”

The Shepherd Knows His Sheep​

22 Now it was the Feast of Dedication in Jerusalem, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon’s porch. 24 Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, “How long do You keep us in [d]doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.”

25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, [e]as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

Renewed Efforts to Stone Jesus​

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”

33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), 36 do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? 37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and [f]believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” 39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.

The Believers Beyond Jordan​

40 And He went away again beyond the Jordan to the place where John was baptizing at first, and there He stayed. 41 Then many came to Him and said, “John performed no sign, but all the things that John spoke about this Man were true.” 42 And many believed in Him there.


It is a very good thing to immerse yourself in the Word of God, to think about the things which are eternal, keep your mind on track with the truth, as you are going to be spending an eternity with Christ.

Mark 13:31
Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.
 
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What books are the Gospel to me?
The entire Bible — rightly understood through the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The Gospel is woven from Genesis to Revelation, fulfilled in Christ alone. It’s not divided into compartments, timelines, or footnote-based theology.
I agree with this but I do take what Christ said most important in the full bible and that is this:
Matthew 4:4 (KJV) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Most of the Bible is history not out of the mouth of God
Thank you for your answer, I was curious. So out of the mouth of God is parts of the Bible, prophets and to me all of Jesus words as He is God.

I do have other questions for you. Do you believe Old Testament people were saved prior to Christ? I do. Because I believe this I also believe God changes not as He said., so this could still happen today. I think Jesus told us how with this:
Matthew 22:37-40 (KJV) Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Your opinion please.
 

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Matthew 4:4 (KJV) But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Why does history matter? This is speaking of having a spiritual life come from God.
'Bread', or food keeps the body going for a short time, but it is temporary life as all flesh perishes.

'Every word' points out that God sustains all things by His spoken word, that comes from His mouth.

Hebrews 1

God, who [a]at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the [b]worlds; 3 who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had [c]by Himself [d]purged [e]our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, 4 having become so much better than the angels, as He has by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

If you are alive in the body, you can be certain this is the will of God for you right now.
If you have spiritual life, alive in Him and are joined as one spirit with Him, this God has also spoken for you.
I am sure others can get more insight from that verse.
 

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The spoken word of God is creative, things happen, according to His purpose and will.
His spoken word to our heart creates faith in us.
God's word is living and active.

Examples

John 15:3
You are already clean because of the word which I have spoken to you.

Isaiah 45:19
I have not spoken in secret, In a dark place of the earth; I did not say to the seed of Jacob, ‘Seek Me in vain’; I, the Lord, speak righteousness, I declare things that are right.

Isaiah 46:11
Calling a bird of prey from the east, The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it.

Acts 3:16
And His name, through faith in His name, has made this man strong, whom you see and know. Yes, the faith which comes through Him has given him this perfect soundness in the presence of you all.
 

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As far as the OT salvation, yes some were saved. It describes them as a remnant
Old or New covenant, a man is saved by faith, not of works.

Habakkuk 2:4
“Behold the proud, His soul is not upright in him; But the just shall live by his faith.

Much of ancient Israel failed the covenant, they did not believe God, they pursued being blessed with salvation by works.
They were not like faithful Abraham.
And God ends up calling that filthy rags, God was not pleased with most of them. 'and their bodies fell in the wilderness.'

Romans 10

Israel Rejects the Gospel​

14 How then shall they call on Him in whom they have not believed? And how shall they believe in Him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? 15 And how shall they preach unless they are sent? As it is written:

“How beautiful are the feet of those who [b]preach the gospel of peace,
Who bring glad tidings of good things!”
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?” 17 So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

18 But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed:

“Their sound has gone out to all the earth,
And their words to the ends of the world.”
19 But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says:

“I will provoke you to jealousy by those who are not a nation,
I will move you to anger by a foolish nation.”
20 But Isaiah is very bold and says:

“I was found by those who did not seek Me;
I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”

21 But to Israel he says:

“All day long I have stretched out My hands
To a disobedient and contrary people.”


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v10, faith comes by hearing God speak to you, the word of God speaks to the heart, but not everyone hears do they.
This kind of hearing is personal. And like Jesus said, he who has ears to hear let Him hear.

Revelation 2:29
“He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”

John 8
Jesus said to them, “If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. 40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. 41 You do the deeds of your father.”

Then they said to Him, “We were not born of fornication; we have one Father—God.”

42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it. 45 But because I tell the truth, you do not believe Me. 46 Which of you convicts Me of sin? And if I tell the truth, why do you not believe Me? 47 He who is of God hears God’s words; therefore you do not hear, because you are not of God.”

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Then Romans 9, only a remnant is saved of the Jews, and so far this has been true,.


27 Isaiah also cries out concerning Israel:

“Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
The remnant will be saved.
28 For [b]He will finish the work and cut it short in righteousness,
Because the Lord will make a short work upon the earth.”

29 And as Isaiah said before:

“Unless the Lord of [c]Sabaoth had left us a seed,
We would have become like Sodom,
And we would have been made like Gomorrah.”
 

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There is only one Gospel —
but the Bible is clear:
it can be perverted.
Not just by atheists or pagans —
but by those claiming to speak for God.

“There are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel… let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:7–8

And what do we see today?

A perverted gospel that divides the Body of Christ,
exalts a Christ-rejecting nation,
and teaches that salvation can come through race, geography, or heritage —
instead of Christ alone.

That’s not Christianity.
That’s Antichrist theology.

“If righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.”
Galatians 2:21

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly... but inwardly.”
Romans 2:28

“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.”
Galatians 3:29

So when Gentile converts from 740 AD
claim to be “ethnic biblical Jews” — and the modern Church bows to them as the chosen people
what are we really witnessing?

“I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.”
Revelation 2:9

We are watching millions of Christians
worship at the altar of the Synagogue of Satan
a state that bans the Gospel, blasphemes Christ, and prepares to enthrone the Antichrist as their messiah.

This is not faithfulness.
This is sorcery.
This is apostasy.

You’re not “blessing Israel.”
You’re denying the King of it.

And Jesus warned us clearly:

“You do not hear Me… because you are not of God.”
John 8:47

“My sheep hear My voice… and follow Me.”
John 10:27

There is no dual covenant.
No separate path.
No racial clause.

There is One Shepherd. One Fold. One Gospel.
And anything else?

Accursed.
Paul said it twice.
 
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